Agreed, however the majority of the time Nick Ferrari is laughing and backslapping on air with his Tory chums.More journalists should be behaving like this, the BS would be removed if this was the case.
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I expect them to have their citizenship removed immediately, based on precedent of people working with terror groups.Culture wars have consequences.
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That’s only limited to brown skinned people.I expect them to have their citizenship removed immediately, based on precedent of people working with terror groups.
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A law suit might be coming this guys way soon....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/02/26/lord-mandelson-leaves-synagogue-event-early-labour/
Starmer must condemn and sack Mandelson or Labour will remain a unsafe and racist party.
The bit before for context. Also, isn't Lord Mandelson Jewish?Asked by Sir Anthony what more Sir Keir would have to do “to prove to you that he isn’t Jeremy Corbyn and that he’s really got on top of this disease of anti-Semitism”, Mr Johnson replied: “Winston Churchill, Harold Wilson, Margaret Thatcher, Tony Blair were all very obviously philo-Semitic people who were strong defenders of Israel.
“Has Keir Starmer done that?”
Yes yes. thats what you understand. How cheap can he be. He is making good money already. Not to speak the threat of who are you inviting to the HoCYes. It is free to visit, but Hunt is charging people for access.
Yes, and if you're really lucky you win a Lordship and a yacht.
Are you trying to say anti semitism in the Labour Party and supporting Israel is link!?The bit before for context. Also, isn't Lord Mandelson Jewish?
No offence but when Owen Jones who was hardly a Starmer friendly columnist before the Israei invasion of Gaza (and obviously even more vociferous since then) is a lead Guardian columnist I am not sure how this dig sticks. If anything it is the opposite. This is like saying when Corbyn was leader his support were wildly out of touch because they were a bunch of downwardly mobile rich kids pretending to be working class but have never worked a "real job" in their life.Labour have a massive lead so as random individuals on a football forum the impact is meaningless. And both Labour and Tory agree on economic policy(More austerity)so it doesn’t really matter anyway.
Voting in the next election isn’t important. Personally I’m not going walk to a voting booth in the pissing rain so guardian readers can feel happy about cutting disability benefits.
The irony of people claiming there is a hidden secret society agenda to dismantle society like this is if it were true the people doing it aren't doing a very good job if every nutjob 5g conspiracy theorist can get their hands on it.Usually I say "The US is fecked", but let's not forget that the UK is fecked too. This ELECTED MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT really thought that the UN went ahead and not only had a meeting where they decided to plan "the end of the family unit" (and all the other crazy and cringe shit), but then they went ahead and put it on a nice formal document.
Tbh I stopped reading after the first line. Still I'm happy for you. Or sorry that happened.No offence but when Owen Jones who was hardly a Starmer friendly columnist before the Israei invasion of Gaza (and obviously even more vociferous since then) is a lead Guardian columnist I am not sure how this dig sticks. If anything it is the opposite. This is like saying when Corbyn was leader his support were wildly out of touch because they were a bunch of downwardly mobile rich kids pretending to be working class but have never worked a "real job" in their life.
He is not trying to say anything. It's literally a text you can read by yourself and draw your own conclusion.Are you trying to say anti semitism in the Labour Party and supporting Israel is link!?
Once again labour voters are playing into dangerous conspiracy theories. Starmer has clearly not dealt with the problems within the party. Very dangerous times.
Btw this is a bit. But still funny to see the sudden need for context when it’s labour right wingers facing claims of anti semitism.
Struck a nerve?Tbh I stopped reading after the first line. Still I'm happy for you. Or sorry that happened.
Struck a nerve?
.Tbh I stopped reading after the first line.
Seems to me you share being smug and projecting it onto everyone else. Go figure. Have a great day..
I read “No offence but when Owen Jones” and my brain admittedly lost interest.
No I didn't say that, and quite frankly I'm pissed off at what you're accusing me of.Are you trying to say anti semitism in the Labour Party and supporting Israel is link!?
Once again labour voters are playing into dangerous conspiracy theories. Starmer has clearly not dealt with the problems within the party. Very dangerous times.
Btw this is a bit. But still funny to see the sudden need for context when it’s labour right wingers facing claims of anti semitism.
Anyone that hates the Tories, and will abstain or protest vote against Labour at the election, is every single bit as bad as the ‘hold your nose Tories’ who vote blue regardless of Party policy or direction.I mean, if you wait around for people who align to your ideals or who "represent you" (what a vague term) then you'll be waiting a long time.
Like, what politician would you say represents the opposite of you?
Because for me, it's the Tories, they're the ones who I disagree with the most and whom I despise.
So my representation is who ever can get this virus out of parliament.
I don't agree with Labour on a lot but they have the best shot. I can't take and the county can't take another five years of this cancer.
I guess my bad if it wasn’t clear but I wasn’t actually accusing you of anything. I was acting like how many right wingers/centrist did during the Corbyn years(Which was saying anyone who wanted to add context was denying anti semitism)in order to show how stupid those years were.No I didn't say that, and quite frankly I'm pissed off at what you're accusing me of.
Starmer and Mandelson in the name of fighting anti semitism(Although it was of course just a factional power play)wanted to kick out a left wing MP for tweeting a correct article which said American police get Israeli training. It’s now funny seeing Starmer and Mandelson getting accused of bullshit anti semitism charges.I'm glad you find the whole thing so fecking hilarious.
I hate the Tories but I'm not necessarily voting Labour. Although they've been a shambles lately, I have the SNP as an option, after that I like the Greens.Anyone that hates the Tories, and will abstain or protest vote against Labour at the election, is every single bit as bad as the ‘hold your nose Tories’ who vote blue regardless of Party policy or direction.
They can wang on about the whys and wherefores, but ultimately, they’re children living in a fantasy world. An opportunity is there to decimate the Tories. To beat them so badly that they won’t be back for 15 years. To pass that up, because you can’t get all the toys you want, immediately… babies.
This isn't a great take, there's almost a 0% chance that the Conservatives don't get badly beat in the upcoming election. Hell they're getting tanked in safe seats in by elections.Anyone that hates the Tories, and will abstain or protest vote against Labour at the election, is every single bit as bad as the ‘hold your nose Tories’ who vote blue regardless of Party policy or direction.
They can wang on about the whys and wherefores, but ultimately, they’re children living in a fantasy world. An opportunity is there to decimate the Tories. To beat them so badly that they won’t be back for 15 years. To pass that up, because you can’t get all the toys you want, immediately… babies.
The two parties are further apart now than at any point in the last 30 years. There are light years between them. Yes Labour have moved right to win. I don’t like it. But I’m a realist. People don’t seem to realise that they Tories are full on Fascist.I hate the Tories but I'm not necessarily voting Labour. Although they've been a shambles lately, I have the SNP as an option, after that I like the Greens.
I voted Labour for the first time in a while under Corbyn. Up until a couple of years ago, I probably would have voted Labour but Starmer has moved the party closer and closer to the Tories that I genuinely don't see much difference. One party will cut services and let the well off pay less tax as a proporion of their income whilst telling me I deserve it, and the other will still do it whilst wringing their hands.
So you're saying this is a great opportunity to replace a genocidal government with another genocidal government. And if I don't do what you say I've brought it on myself?Anyone that hates the Tories, and will abstain or protest vote against Labour at the election, is every single bit as bad as the ‘hold your nose Tories’ who vote blue regardless of Party policy or direction.
They can wang on about the whys and wherefores, but ultimately, they’re children living in a fantasy world. An opportunity is there to decimate the Tories. To beat them so badly that they won’t be back for 15 years. To pass that up, because you can’t get all the toys you want, immediately… babies.
Are you ok? Why the hell are you inserting genocide into the equation? You know you don’t get to claim the moral high ground by reaching for some shocking words?So you're saying this is a great opportunity to replace a genocidal government with another genocidal government. And if I don't do what you say I've brought it on myself?
Right, gotcha, silly me and my fantasy world where while I type that out another fantasy baby dies an avoidable death through starvation, or shooting, or bombing. Woe me, with my why's and wherefores.
Do you really think that on policy Labour the Tories are further apart now than at the last GE, or the one before?The two parties are further apart now than at any point in the last 30 years. There are light years between them. Yes Labour have moved right to win. I don’t like it. But I’m a realist. People don’t seem to realise that they Tories are full on Fascist.
Yes. Because the current Tory party doesn’t even offer up a sliver of hope. Not even a pretence of National fairness. They give a loud voice to racist MP’s and they are on tv every single day promoting policy that 100% makes tens of thousands of vulnerable peoples lives worse. It’s not hiding the way it did under Boris or May. It’s not a small fringe. That tail is now wagging the whole dog. The thought of there being 100 Tories left is abhorrent to me. It would galvanise them and they’d be so fecking noisy.Do you really think that on policy Labour the Tories are further apart now than at the last GE, or the one before?
Nadine Dorries, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Suella Braverman, George Osbourne, Matt Hancock, Boris Johnson, Dominic Raab, Andrew Bridgen, Priti Patel, Lee Anderson, Liz Truss, Mark Francois, Andrea Jenkyns, John Redwood, David Cameron, Steve Baker, Therese Coffey, Michael Gove, Grant Shapps etc
What an absolute shit show. I’ll be absolutely amazed if Starmer assembles anything anywhere near as bad as this lot.
Will you stop bitching about it if he does it? (rhetorical question)Starmer must condemn and sack Mandelson or Labour will remain a unsafe and racist party.
Why do you think he's "moved the party closer to the Tories?"I hate the Tories but I'm not necessarily voting Labour. Although they've been a shambles lately, I have the SNP as an option, after that I like the Greens.
I voted Labour for the first time in a while under Corbyn. Up until a couple of years ago, I probably would have voted Labour but Starmer has moved the party closer and closer to the Tories that I genuinely don't see much difference. One party will cut services and let the well off pay less tax as a proporion of their income whilst telling me I deserve it, and the other will still do it whilst wringing their hands.
You're forgetting the 2019 intake. Gullis etxNadine Dorries, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Suella Braverman, George Osbourne, Matt Hancock, Boris Johnson, Dominic Raab, Andrew Bridgen, Priti Patel, Lee Anderson, Liz Truss, Mark Francois, Andrea Jenkyns, John Redwood, David Cameron, Steve Baker, Therese Coffey, Michael Gove, Grant Shapps etc
What an absolute shit show. I’ll be absolutely amazed if Starmer assembles anything anywhere near as bad as this lot.
Amen.Yes. Because the current Tory party doesn’t even offer up a sliver of hope. Not even a pretence of National fairness. They give a loud voice to racist MP’s and they are on tv every single day promoting policy that 100% makes tens of thousands of vulnerable peoples lives worse. It’s not hiding the way it did under Boris or May. It’s not a small fringe. That tail is now wagging the whole dog. The thought of there being 100 Tories left is abhorrent to me. It would galvanise them and they’d be so fecking noisy.
I’m not a big Starmer guy. But I think he’s capable, decent, and actually wants to do the right thing. I also believe that a successful first term of work, sees a daring manifesto for a second term. His policies and plan remain to the left of Blair’s.
The idea of not voting anti-Tory is just so feeble. Imagine staying home and seeing your local seat held by a Tory. It should be an obliteration. Mick Lynch called it right when he said people on the left need to grow up.
Do you know what would actually decimate the Tories? Proportional representation. But we already know that's not something this current Labour party is interested in. Starmer has far more of an opportunity to actually do something about the way politics in this country works but for some reason the onus is on individual voters to do something about it.Anyone that hates the Tories, and will abstain or protest vote against Labour at the election, is every single bit as bad as the ‘hold your nose Tories’ who vote blue regardless of Party policy or direction.
They can wang on about the whys and wherefores, but ultimately, they’re children living in a fantasy world. An opportunity is there to decimate the Tories. To beat them so badly that they won’t be back for 15 years. To pass that up, because you can’t get all the toys you want, immediately… babies.
Why the hell am I inserting genocide? Fecking hell. This is the world we are living in now.Are you ok? Why the hell are you inserting genocide into the equation? You know you don’t get to claim the moral high ground by reaching for some shocking words?
My girlfriend is ethnically Jewish. Her grandfather survived a camp. Her mother has both a Syrian and Iranian refugee living in her house. We’ve marched through London in all but one of the rallies so far. I watch all of them juggle their ethnic identity and genuine fear, with an absolute disgust for Netanyahu and everything attached.
Life is not simple and shouting Genocide at the top of your lungs makes you an oaf.
So yes, stay home. Turn on the news every day and hope that some Unicorn government comes along that gives you everything you want. Then strap a saddle on it, and ride it all on your own as half of this demented country won’t vote for it because a newspaper will call it gay while another 20 point out it’s an immigrant.
Honestly, I wish I could round you all up, move you to one large town and let you all live there together under a Tory MP. The rest of us can at least attempt to have slightly nicer things for a decade while you wait for your white, sexy, horny, horse.