Not at Old Trafford. At smaller but better run cubs.
How many managers at Old Trafford/since Ferguson retired, have had 11 league losses, -2 goal difference and 44 points in March? Have you not seen better than this?
Do you think it's just a random coincidence that all our post SAF managers have failed? They were all randomly rubbish?
I don't know why you keep trying to divorce structural and managerial change.
No, I don't think it's a random coincidence they all failed. Yes, they were all rubbish. Or at the very least not equipped/good enough to take us where we needed to go.
Moyes - steady eddie mid-table prem manager
LvG - washed up. hadn’t been in club football for years
Mourinho - washed up. sacked from previous two jobs including having a title winning team languishing at 16th
Ole - no credentials in a top 5 league, initially an interim
That was the point of the punt on Ten Hag - we'd been largely appointing washed up and unqualified managers, Ten Hag himself falls under the unqualified label, but he at least was someone that looked to be in an upward trajectory, and that we believed would be able to instil a good brand of football here - it hasn't happened - we should move on.
for reference, read below, some of these clubs have been considerably more successful than United since Ferguson retired:
I mean we have fans who somehow believe that 6 managers in 10 years is a lot or too much.
People should remember that during the same period of time Bayern had 8 different managers(including interims), Real Madrid had 6 different and 7 in total, Juventus had 4 different and 5 in total. Both Milan team have had 10 different managers. Napoli have had 7 different managers. The point being that United are arguably the club that underachieved the most and one of the key issue is the club reluctance to change things quickly