Because it's ridiculous.
Carlos Queirez doesn't work for Manchester United anymore, so I'd prefer it if someone who actually did was to choose our players for us.
And if CQ rated Bebe so very highly...why didn't he take him to the World Cup!?
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Carlos Queirez doesn't work for Manchester United anymore, so I'd prefer it if someone who actually did was to choose our players for us.
And if CQ rated Bebe so very highly...why didn't he take him to the World Cup!?
Maybe he's a player for the future and not ready to perform at such a high level at the moment?
What's that got to do with anything? Fergie and CQ had an excellent working relationship and there's no conflict of interest in Carlos telling him this kid is a special talent (the opposite, if anything) so why does his opinion suddenly not count for anything?
Are you serious? One of the biggest transfers this summer involved City signing a teenage striker from Italy, not long after Italy flopped massively in the WC, due in large parts to being completely toothless up front. If Balotelli is rated so highly, why didn't he go to the World Cup? What about Guiseppe Rossi? Is he shite an' all? Or Adam Johnson? etc. etc. etc.
Because he was in the 3rd Division of Portugese football at the time? He's a prospect, not a finished article ready for the World Cup.
Well the WC is really for established players, sure you can pick a wild card but i think the pressure CQ was under he didnt want to pick a up and comer who would be a huge risk.
Also all the work CQ had done for us and the part he played in our success during that period i think we can trust his advice
Giggsy was a transfer. Youth product I know, but he was still brought in. So were Becks, Scholesy etc. It was Fergie and his staff's judgement to bring them in. Not multi-million pound purchase but he has still gotta decide to bring them in. Probably, in a way, similar to the unsuccessful Liam Miller's case.
Giggs attended Manchester City's School of Excellence in his early teens but joined United after Ferguson made a personal visit to his house on his 14th birthday.
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You cannot transfer 14 year old kids. All kids play for youth sides from all over the place and are picked up and "brought in" by bigger clubs if they are good enough. No player goes straight into United's academy having never played for anyone else. Giggs played for City's kids long before he was a professional, Beckham did likewise with Spurs. They were scouted by the usual means just like with tons of young players who never made it, none of those can be described as a "transfer" though.
Please tell me you are so annoyed that common sense has left the building and you are just venting when you asked that question. If you are serious then am at a loss for words.
As for the first part - CQ didn't choose him. And are you are you now saying that we can't talk to people that we trust have seen prospects for their opinions?
As has been repeatedly pointed out - it was a United scout that said we had to get him and SAF has spoken to CQ who also has seen him and decided to go ahead.
I've given up on Bebe - waited long enough, but he's just not delivered.
Time to ship him out.
Time to ship him out.
Giggs wasnt a transfer
So who isn't a transfer?
Do you have to be born into the club?
That basically leaves Oliver Gill and the two Darrens!
Regardless of what constitutes a transfer - the underlying point is that SAF has good instincts regarding players and trusting the people that work for him.
Bebe may turn out to be a complete dud but, now that he is here - lets at least put away the pitchforks and see what he does. If he does fail, am sure people will get the chance to say what a waste and that we should have spent the money on XYZ.
Bebe may turn out to be a complete dud but, now that he is here - lets at least put away the pitchforks and see what he does. If he does fail, am sure people will get the chance to say what a waste and that we should have spent the money on XYZ.
You mean someone like our Portuguese scout?
The fact that we've signed him without seeing him play, given a special recommendation by (we're told) an excellent scout, means that this kid must have something about him.
Can't wait to see him unleashed on some unsuspecting opponent.
Can't wait to see him unleashed on some unsuspecting opponent.
Its because Bebe is tooooo good. Clearly.
Remember Quieroz was behind the transfers of the Da Silva twins, Ronaldo, Nani and Anderson.
The tweet that we all feared!
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Les Kershaw might have something to say about that.
Not sure about Ronaldo either. Rumour has it that Fergie and the players were so impressed with Ronaldo in that friendly that they signed him right after the game.
I'm hearing that Daniel Taylor wouldn't be privvy to such information, no matter how much he likes to pretend that he is.
Give him time to settle in, he must be nervous in himself about moving to a new country, new club and it being one of the biggest clubs in the world. Wouldn't be surprised if he mind was elsewhere when training for the first week or two.
Said Vidic wanted to leave about a week before the news was released that he had agreed a new contract 2 months earlier.
Fergie had already agreed the Ronaldo deal before the friendly. The players urged Fergie to sign him after that game but they didn't know the deal was already done.
Really pulling for Bebe, but the entire saga has disaster written all over it.
I don't mind if he's given 6-8 months to bed in.
Also, not sure why CQ is being given all the credit when it has already been stated that it was our Portugese scout who first saw him and brought him to the attention of Fergie.
I don't mind if he's given 6-8 months to bed in.
Also, not sure why CQ is being given all the credit when it has already been stated that it was our Portugese scout who first saw him and brought him to the attention of Fergie.
whom did he hear this from? How did he hear it? Trying to be all important..
Only coaches and the senior players like Giggs, Scholes, Neiville will have the capacity to measure how a player did in training.
Only coaches and the senior players like Giggs, Scholes, Neiville will have the capacity to measure how a player did in training.
When will we get a chance to see this guy play?
if he fails as a footy player he could always make it as a boxer have you seen the size of him,he looks a big bugger,but seriously why are some of you pricks writing him of already,fingers crossed the lad makes an impact when he"s ready............come on bebe
He's just joined, He not use to training like this, Its going to take him a lot longer to settle in than most.
Just because Fergie never saw him doesn't mean he going to be a flop. Our scout are some of the best in the world and have obviously seen something in him
Just because Fergie never saw him doesn't mean he going to be a flop. Our scout are some of the best in the world and have obviously seen something in him
sure it does, and that should be clear to anyone
He's also just had a major change in his life and that in itself will take time to adjust, I don't expect to hear anything about this lad til gone December.
I've been hearing he's a massive twat... and repeating it to everyone I can. I've never read anything by him that is remotely positive about United.
It depends with what preconceptions the person who gave DT "unimpressive" comments went in with.
Here is a guy that has material as the boss said to work with pace, size and 2 footed.
If the person feeding DT goes in thinking that this guy will show enough in his first sessions to warrant a place on the team and he doesn't show that - then to him he'll be unimpressive.
If on the other hand person is judging him based on his ability as a player that can learn and mold and hasn't shown those qualities - then it can be worrying.
Think some people might be expecting him to do enough to warrant a place in the first team this season but, for me this transfer is about a talent was snapped up because once he gets the proper education / training - he could become some player i.e. not one for this season.
Here is a guy that has material as the boss said to work with pace, size and 2 footed.
If the person feeding DT goes in thinking that this guy will show enough in his first sessions to warrant a place on the team and he doesn't show that - then to him he'll be unimpressive.
If on the other hand person is judging him based on his ability as a player that can learn and mold and hasn't shown those qualities - then it can be worrying.
Think some people might be expecting him to do enough to warrant a place in the first team this season but, for me this transfer is about a talent was snapped up because once he gets the proper education / training - he could become some player i.e. not one for this season.
Yeah, or he could just have pulled the tweet out of his arse, like when he wrote an article saying that Ferguson was "particularly aggrieved about Anderson’s ineffectual display" against Coventry a few years ago, when SAF himself was quoted as saying "“Pique was excellent on Wednesday. He was our best player along with Anderson."
I've made this point before, but he consistantly writes shite about us.
I've made this point before, but he consistantly writes shite about us.
So you are saying he is constantly WUMing The Caf?
Why is it a disaster? If he fails and we lose a few mil on it whats the problem? Its not your money and Fergie and Gill obviously feel we can afford a punt.
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