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fecking hell someone really has something to prove.No-no-no, I'm one of those meet me at such and such. Glad I'm from Norway cum stain?
fecking hell someone really has something to prove.No-no-no, I'm one of those meet me at such and such. Glad I'm from Norway cum stain?
Yeah, I know. For some reason anger/frustration is easier to spill under the influence, shit heads being a natural target.My lips are sealed.
But it would probably be wise to tone it down a bit
you could go and get some counsellingYeah, I know. For some reason anger/frustration is easier to spill under the influence, shit heads being a natural target.
Thing is, people like pee sock annoy me all year, I'm too polite and when I'm drunk I go overboard. What can you do? Be moderately drunk and tell people off? It's a hard balance.
Sorry, you annoy me when I'm sober too. I respect intelligence, and although my posts thus far in this thread has been nothing of the sort I feel your sentiments have been strangely deserving of ridicule. You just don't deserve better. I would never say anything like this to a person on the forum I respected, but you continuously make me want to plant my boot in your face for some reason.you could go and get some counselling
I understand your point to a certain extent but I think it's born of low expectations, he's been so poor for the past couple of seasons that any sign of quality from him is seen as a positive. We have to remember that he cost £30m, turns 30 in January and we have macheda and hernandez waiting for game time to help them develop.In fairness to PPSock, he's actually got a valid point and loads of people jumped on him without really engaging him on it. Maybe he could have expressed it better but I really doubt any genuine United fan would be bitter that Berba rattled in five today.
Berba's goal stats are not going to tell the whole story when he has rattled in five against Blackburn and a hat-trick against the dippers. Personally I don't think the last couple of years are of much relevance to Berba now, we have got a different side now and it's how we are shaping up this season that matters.
Even since the games since Liverpool I think Berba's still been good in some games and that his actual performance level has stepped up a notch. I think we have found a better role in the team for him this season and he's mixing up the dropping deep with playing higher up the pitch better than he ever has before.
I thought he played well against Stoke, Rangers, Valencia and has been much more involved generally this season than last. Even games like the City when when he did not have alot to feed off I thought he did alright and played his role for the side well enough. Only really the Villa and Spurs games where I thought he was well below par and the Villa game was another match when no one really played well.
For me, Berbatov been alongisde Nani, one of United's two best attacking players this season. There's still plenty of unanswered questions, particilarly with Rooney back, and I still don't know if he would be Fergie's best eleven for the Big four and champions league games as if we played 4-3-3, it would still be Rooney upfront everytime for me. I'm still more than encouraged with his start to the season though and he's helped us amass more points than he has lost, for sure.
Glad I can help, I'll leave you with your drink and anger thenSorry, you annoy me when I'm sober too. I respect intelligence, and although my posts thus far in this thread has been nothing of the sort I feel your sentiments have been strangely deserving of ridicule. You just don't deserve better. I would never say anything like this to a person on the forum I respected, but you continuously make me want to plant my boot in your face for some reason.
Yeah, because prior to that he was just sugaring our corn flakes, what with Rooney being at least equal in his efforts at the start of the season.
He carried us at the start when Rooney was SHITE... the ones to help him out were Macheda and Hernandez... a 19 year old and a Mexican youngster fresh from La Tierra Del Tacos.
This "Berba only scores inconsequential goals"-piss was certainly not the case when Berba was pitching in tremendously earlier in the season.
There's no way I'm gonna read all that. Diego made the scousers cry, for Berba there's a different standard clearly. Let's ignore all evidence that the team does better with Berba in the side, let's ignore what he contributes besides goals. As Ronaldo would have said, it's all polemic when it comes to Berba. I see evidence of his class most of his games, honestly I struggle to see why he's so vilified.In fairness to PPSock, he's actually got a valid point and loads of people jumped on him without really engaging him on it. Maybe he could have expressed it better but I really doubt any genuine United fan would be bitter that Berba rattled in five today.
Berba's goal stats are not going to tell the whole story when he has rattled in five against Blackburn and a hat-trick against the dippers. Personally I don't think the last couple of years are of much relevance to Berba now, we have got a different side now and it's how we are shaping up this season that matters.
Even since the games since Liverpool I think Berba's still been good in some games and that his actual performance level has stepped up a notch. I think we have found a better role in the team for him this season and he's mixing up the dropping deep with playing higher up the pitch better than he ever has before.
I thought he played well against Stoke, Rangers, Valencia and has been much more involved generally this season than last. Even games like the City when when he did not have alot to feed off I thought he did alright and played his role for the side well enough. Only really the Villa and Spurs games where I thought he was well below par and the Villa game was another match when no one really played well.
For me, Berbatov been alongisde Nani, one of United's two best attacking players this season. There's still plenty of unanswered questions, particilarly with Rooney back, and I still don't know if he would be Fergie's best eleven for the Big four and champions league games as if we played 4-3-3, it would still be Rooney upfront everytime for me. I'm still more than encouraged with his start to the season though and he's helped us amass more points than he has lost, for sure.
BTW - Pally was well settled with United after a season and was part of the Cup Winner's cup winning side at the end of his second, so there's no real contrast with Berba at all.
Thanks, you're a sweetie.Glad I can help, I'll leave you with your drink and anger then
The three terrible performances that he's had this season have been Spurs, Bursaspor away and Aston Villa. We managed to beat Spurs and Bursaspor, so the only leg you have to stand on in saying that we've dropped points because of his performances would be the Villa game. But who had a good game in that match? Our best players were two substitutes - Macheda and Obertan. Pretty much every single player that started was below par but let's just scapegoat someone because it's the easy thing to do.8 of those have come in 2 games. 4 in 15 doesn't have quite the same ring does it.
How on earth does 5 goals in 1 game more than make up for the points we've dropped because of his performances?
that quote is stupid, as we needed the three goals against Liverpool otherwise we'd have dropped points. He also got the opening goal today, which is something that he's been berated for in the past and unless you are incredibly stupid, you wont need me to explain to you how important the opening goal is in a match.8 of those have come in 2 games. 4 in 15 doesn't have quite the same ring does it.
I am judging him on more than this season but I'd say I'm far beyond sceptical at the minute.You're probably looking at his career at United so far as a whole instead of just this season but he's clearly looking like he's applying himself more and is more settled. If you'd just said that you were being skeptical then you wouldn't have just created a two page debate with that post of yours. Unless you were attention seeking, which in case you've caught a lot of us hook, line and sinker.
the quote isn't stupid, the point is that apart from those 2 great performances this season he's scored 4 goals in 15 matches where he's played consistently as our main striker.that quote is stupid, as we needed the three goals against Liverpool otherwise we'd have dropped points. He also got the opening goal today, which is something that he's been berated for in the past and unless you are incredibly stupid, you wont need me to explain to you how important the opening goal is in a match.
RAWK reject?Sorry, testical cancer is probably more PC. Somehow I imagine him as a fat feck though.
feck off, that's taken entirely out of context. He's a proven pee stain, you a follower?RAWK reject?
To me it's pretty obvious he won't be a genius in every game, Cantona wasn't either..It seems as if Berba has 2 modes - average and amazing. He really needs to perform in between at that 'very good' level pretty much every game. It's easy to claim him being "awesome" today and "proving everybody wrong" but it just goes to show you how much he underperforms most weeks. If only he could cut down on the average performances (which are far too often), he could be a true great.
I'm guessing you don't like Nani's body language and critique of team mates either then. Or Rooneys. Or Evras. Or etc.I still mildly dislike Berba in all honesty, his ability was never in question mind you. I don't like body language and constant critique of team mates that's all. IIRC he's improved this part of his game over the last three games, here's hoping.
Nani can be a right bellend at times, although I've never seen him have a go at team mates. Evra? Never seen him do anything of that sort, how dare you! Maybe I put it wrong, I don't dislike Berba per se, I dislike some of his attributes so to speak. As for 'absolutely nothing wrong', that's highly subjective, imo I can't think of a less inspiring player in our squad to have alongside me.I'm guessing you don't like Nani's body language and critique of team mates either then. Or Rooneys. Or Evras. Or etc.
Oh, and the fact that you admit to disliking one of our own players, when he's really done absolutely nothing wrong, scares me.
He doesn't need to inspire, because on his day he himself is inspired... An overhead kick off the crossbar against Pool... jayzuz... I opened my heart for Mickey Owen the moment he knocked that slim chance in against City... to me moments like that'll go a long way...Nani can be a right bellend at times, although I've never seen him have a go at team mates. Evra? Never seen him do anything of that sort, how dare you! Maybe I put it wrong, I don't dislike Berba per se, I dislike some of his attributes so to speak. As for 'absolutely nothing wrong', that's highly subjective, imo I can't think of a less inspiring player in our squad to have alongside me.
Not really getting into this debate, because I like Berba, but Ole spent most of his United career being a sub.He doesn't need to inspire, because on his day he himself is inspired... An overhead kick off the crossbar against Pool... jayzuz... I opened my heart for Mickey Owen the moment he knocked that slim chance in against City... to me moments like that'll go a long way...
If people are bothered about a couple of shoddy months making his goalscoring ratio fall to something like 0.30 then people need to reconsider. A: he's never been considered the one who'll score week in week out.
and B: Ole landed pretty close to a goal every three games, so why can that kind of a stat be used to batter Berba? :|
Dear Lord give me strengthDoesn't change a thing, still isn't good enough for us consistently. One 5 goal haul in a superb team performance with rooney back along side him doesn't change the fact he's been pretty shit for 2 years and when usually has a huge negative impact on our overall play, coming deep to slow the game down and lose the ball.
Hopefully a couple more illusionary performances like that will convince Juventus or some other mugs to pay big money for him in January.
fecking hell. Hopefully you'll die of breast cancer and never post here again.
Sorry, testical cancer is probably more PC. Somehow I imagine him as a fat feck though.
You should have been left as a cum stain in the snot paper left by your parents bed, sadly your mother was so hard done for cash she pushed the said papers up her clamidyia infested worm hole and presto, the pe pee cum sock was born. This is childish, but at the same time it is somehow suitable.
Mods, please do something about this. This poster is a disgrace and IMO should not be allowed to post on these boards.Cumstain
Yeah, but today he RAN. All over the pitch. He didn't seem to stop and it's probably why he ended up with 5 goals.To quote Lawrenson, he's the only player I know that plays the game at walking pace.
In actual fact he appears to play the game at walking pace because he's so gifted, his first touch is sublime, which like all the top players, gives him more time on the ball.
It's his style of play that doesn't do him any favours, on his day he's up there with the top players in the world for me.
He just needs to make those days happen more often.
How can you possibly not get banned for a comment like this?fecking hell. Hopefully you'll die of breast cancer and never post here again.
If it was that divisive, why does he seem so popular with the rest of the team? I've seen others use this "berating teammates" criticism of him and it never quite makes sense to me, surely the ones that will be put off by this would be the teammates, so why don't they show the slightest hint of annoyance at it? He's just a perfectionist who holds himself and others to very high standards, I'm sure they can take it. Ronaldo was far more histrionic in his reactions.Nani can be a right bellend at times, although I've never seen him have a go at team mates. Evra? Never seen him do anything of that sort, how dare you! Maybe I put it wrong, I don't dislike Berba per se, I dislike some of his attributes so to speak. As for 'absolutely nothing wrong', that's highly subjective, imo I can't think of a less inspiring player in our squad to have alongside me.
They were getting that way at the end of last season.If it was that divisive, why does he seem so popular with the rest of the team? I've seen others use this "berating teammates" criticism of him and it never quite makes sense to me, surely the ones that will be put off by this would be the teammates, so why don't they show the slightest hint of annoyance at it? He's just a perfectionist who holds himself and others to very high standards, I'm sure they can take it. Ronaldo was far more histrionic in his reactions.
what do you mean? and why would it be different now?They were getting that way at the end of last season.
Im sorry, but there is just no way anyone can complain about this. Its a facht!Barclays Premier League Top Scorers
Berbatov Man Utd 11
Tevez Man City 9
Cahill Everton 8
Carroll Newcastle 8
Elmander Bolton 8
Bent Sunderland 7
Chamakh Arsenal 7
Malouda Chelsea 7
Nolan Newcastle 7
Davies Bolton 6
Drogba Chelsea 6
Nasri Arsenal 6
Van der Vaart Tottenham 6
He's scoring goals.what do you mean? and why would it be different now?
Too true... Even if strikers are generally underperforming a bit... For starters he's not exactly had much cheaper goals than some of the ones that have landed square in Tevez's lap. (flip... is that what you do with genitive if it ends on z? seems a bit wrong)Im sorry, but there is just no way anyone can complain about this. Its a facht!