if it has any impact I say give the guy a break, the way I worded it (although I stand by the general gist of what I was saying) was pretty inflammatory and I tried to wind him up.
Bad Berba's Back
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where did I say they were similar strikers? my point was he's playing consistently when I think in the long run we'd be better off giving the other strikers a run in the team.
I really don't see this great build up from berbatov most of the time, there was some great stuff yesterday but usually he jogs 5 or 10 yards with the ball allowing the opposition to close him down and get organised in front of him before he lays it off sideways/backwards or loses the ball.
Comparisons with Cantona that I've seen others make are an insult, Cantona consistently stepped up to the plate when we needed him with match winning goals/performances, Berbatov doesn't.
Some stats about league goals and starts to put things in perspective:
Mark Hughes - 35 goals in 110 starts
Teddy Sheringham - 31 goals in 73 starts
Dimitar Berbatov - 32 goals in 65 starts
I wouldn't mention Cantona's stats as this comparision isn't good for Berba, even though Berbatov's goals to starts ratio is actually better.
Mark Hughes - 35 goals in 110 starts
Teddy Sheringham - 31 goals in 73 starts
Dimitar Berbatov - 32 goals in 65 starts
I wouldn't mention Cantona's stats as this comparision isn't good for Berba, even though Berbatov's goals to starts ratio is actually better.
Epl goals?
yes, goals and starts in the Prem
If he gets the runs made for him, he finds them, it's a joy to watch and no coincidence that when yesterday for the first time in ages our off the ball movement was up to scratch Berbatov was the player to shine.
at Red Norse. He just pressed the self destruct button.Random as feck! Too much angeldust last night I guess
Got to give p ps sock some credit here. This is pretty big of him considering what was said to him last night.
What a let down again. Should have scored 6. Too languid.
did I say one? I meant five !
No way. Sure, some things you said yesterday I didn't even agree with, but what Red Norse was spouting was just disgraceful. He went overboard and deserves to be banned.
IMO you cant have a spell of a handful of games and be quality. Netting often then go missing for 10 games and then pull it all back with 5 goals. Yes he was on song yesterday but he needs to be consistent rather than smashing em in every so often.
I've been away this weekend and have just read back the last few pages.
Some of the posts in them are quite disgraceful - Berbatov just can't win with some of you!
And for the record, he was brilliant and I'm delighted for him
Some of the posts in them are quite disgraceful - Berbatov just can't win with some of you!
And for the record, he was brilliant and I'm delighted for him
I agree with this 100%
5 goals is great but I would prefer if he could spread his goal in a few matches.1 goal here, another there.That would be much better than a long run without goals and then 5 but still great performance from him.
Since he showed before that scoring a big number of goals doesn't equal into him being a lot more consistent, I'm not gonna jump on the wonderland bandwagon.I'm hoping to see a little more consistency even if overall this season is by far his best
don't have a problem admitting when I've been a bit of a cnut, I would be a cnut if I didn't.
I suppose part of what pisses me off is we see a performance like that and then a couple of games later he's frustrating the hell out of me again. I just wish he'd find come consistency but I don't think he has the mentality to succeed at united, despite all his talent he just doubts himself too much.
I don't agree with appalling, poorly worded and the original one was over the top on a day we'd won 7-1 but I stand by the gist.
I see almost no chance of him succeeding at united, the thought of a CL semi v barca/real with berbatov and no rooney is frightening, in fact with berbatov even starting is enough to give me nightmares.
EDIT: I've just had a read back over the last couple of pages and tbh there isn't much I would change, everything I said I still agree with although it could have been put more diplomatically on a day he'd scored 5.
what if he played like last night?
is this a wind up?
Tbf yesterday taught us nothing as we know that he has the ability to do that and Blackburn were pathetic. He has to do it more often (EDIT: Play very well, not score 5, as I'm sure some unfunny feckwit will try to argue with that) for us to get people off his back.
And I say that as someone who really rates him.
And I say that as someone who really rates him.
are you comparing a blackburn side missing 7 first teamers (according to big sam anyway) to barcelona?
nope, and I think the fact SAF played a half fit rooney against Bayern last season rather than Berbatov shows he has similar feelings
It's a big "if".If he does it then fair dues but so far we can only judge on what's happened and been done by him, not hypothetical situations.
Would be lovely, no disrespect to him, but performances like yesterday in his United career are a rarity not a norm or regular occurrence, so the chances of it happening in a big game is pretty slim.
I really loathe this dismissive talk - the fact is berba scored 5 goals - Rooney didn't even score one - we should just be delighted that he played so well
how is it being dismissive, it's just a fac(h)t
he scored 5 goals for god's sake!
I love Berbatov, he's ace. Such a wonderful player. Embodies everything I love about football. If I was manager, I would just pick Berbatov, Scholes and Giggs and 8 randoms every game and let them three do what the feck they want. We would probably lose, but it would be damn entertaining.
Who denied he had a good game ? Saying you expect (and hope for) him to be more consistent doesn't mean in any possible way that we didn't think he did great yesterday.It's not just black and white this story
I love players like Berba too, Smashed - with that bit of magic about them.
it's one match
I don't give a flying fig that it's one match - he scored five goals, got in some great positions, tracked back, tackled and was generally brilliant all game.
and Rooney didn't even score one - so if Berba's crap and scored five, what does that make Rooney?
It's hardly just one match, he's been one of our best performers for the majority of the season
not according to some on here ( although I agree with you )
a guy coming back from injury and poor form off the back of a season terrifying defences in most games.
I suppose Defoe's better than Rooney as well then because he's scored 5 against Wigan and Rooney hasn't
oh for God's sake Pissocks, grow up!
wtf are you on about, I gave the guy 2 seasons and it'll take far more than one performance to change my mind.
1) I aint picking the team so it doesn't matter
2) It's a fecking football forum not the MPC.
Erica, don't even rise to it. That's why I stopped responding to his posts last night. You just walk on by shit and ignore it.
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