1 most likely. 2 if they were being thorough.Would be intrigued by the sample size of the 'none of that foreign muck' crowd.
Or they just plucked it out of their arses.
1 most likely. 2 if they were being thorough.Would be intrigued by the sample size of the 'none of that foreign muck' crowd.
Gf came back negative just now Mine should be the same whenever that comes.My gf is awaiting some results because she's felt light-headed and nauseous the last few days. I've felt fine but woken up today quite off-balance and dizzy, also got a bit of nausea but none of the symptoms they tell you to keep an eye out for. I know they can be wide ranging though.
Should get my gfs results soon and my test is on the way I think.
I’m yet to see someone without a mask in a shop but I see idiots not covering their mouths and noses.It annoys me when they walk round the shop looking really pleased with themselves. Everyone thinks you're a selfish twat, no need to be smug.
There are massive differences in compliance between shops. I've concluded for example, that Sainsbury's shoppers must have far more hidden health issues than Asda shoppers - given the large numbers of people not wearing masks in Sainsbury's.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-reinstate-bouncers-outside-supermarkets.html
Gladys not feeling the urgency for masks in the supermarket
But after putting on her mask, Gladys then lowered it below her mouth as she continued with her shop. She said: 'I find them too uncomfortable. I don't see what the fuss is, I've got a mask on, it's just not covering my nose and mouth at the moment'
I've seen a couple at my local Coop. Usually big sweating 60 something males who look like are potentially carrying all sorts. Give them a very wide birth.I’m yet to see someone without a mask in a shop but I see idiots not covering their mouths and noses.
I know a couple of people who had it, not hospitalised but suffering after effects. In their case, fatigue and ‘brain fog’All hospitalised patients though. I’d be surprised if most people hospitalised with a medical illness didn’t have at least one symptom 6 months later. If you’re so medically ill you need to go into hospital it can take a long time to fully recuperate, no matter what put you there.
Great news mate!Gf came back negative just now Mine should be the same whenever that comes.
We'd just cancelled the electrician that was supposed to come fix our lights as well ffs.
If I've been out and about to a few shops I may use it, but if I've driven to the supermarket and interacted with nobody I can't see how anyone is any safer by me squirting some hand sanitiser on my hands.I’m yet to see someone without a mask in a shop but I see idiots not covering their mouths and noses.
Also almost no one uses the hand san as they go in which I find utterly bizarre (maybe they use their own?).
Ewww, for goodness sake, at that age and health you’d think they’d know better.I've seen a couple at my local Coop. Usually big sweating 60 something males who look like are potentially carrying all sorts. Give them a very wide birth.
I always see a couple of people not wearing masks at my local Co-Op and there's no enforcement, guard at the door or anything. I now go to my Sainsbury's instead because of that and it seems pretty good there. Weird that it's so different in shops that are about 400 metres apart.I've seen a couple at my local Coop. Usually big sweating 60 something males who look like are potentially carrying all sorts. Give them a very wide birth.
I’ve noticed that too.It annoys me when they walk round the shop looking really pleased with themselves. Everyone thinks you're a selfish twat, no need to be smug.
My wife's grandparents and their local community are fully on that bandwagon. Originally they all thought the vaccine was a way to kill off the OAPs, now they've softened somewhat and it's just the foreign ones that are out to get them.
Whilst I’m not denying it’s authenticity, the story comes from a GP who was an MP up until the last election so they may be a motive to the story
Ewww, for goodness sake, at that age and health you’d think they’d know better.
I guess it's just the area near me, which isn't all that bad actually thinking about it. They do look like the type that's not worth arguing with though. I pity the staff who work there as they are really nice people. There's supposedly a 12 person limit at the moment as well but no one I could see counting unless you are somehow supposed to do it yourself before you enter.I always see a couple of people not wearing masks at my local Co-Op and there's no enforcement, guard at the door or anything. I now go to my Sainsbury's instead because of that and it seems pretty good there. Weird that it's so different in shops that are about 400 metres apart.
A lot of them are just itching to be confronted about it too.It annoys me when they walk round the shop looking really pleased with themselves. Everyone thinks you're a selfish twat, no need to be smug.
Gladys is a cnut. Don’t be like Gladys.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-reinstate-bouncers-outside-supermarkets.html
Gladys not feeling the urgency for masks in the supermarket
But after putting on her mask, Gladys then lowered it below her mouth as she continued with her shop. She said: 'I find them too uncomfortable. I don't see what the fuss is, I've got a mask on, it's just not covering my nose and mouth at the moment'
Ah yep and he's being derided in the comments section for being an ex-Labour MP.Dunno about the number of patients but the sample size of GP’s is one.
It's bizarre isn't it. We haven't got a clue who makes most of the medicines we take or the jabs we've ever had, but now we're picking and choosing from what we've read on twitter or in the Sun.My wife's grandparents and their local community are fully on that bandwagon. Originally they all thought the vaccine was a way to kill off the OAPs, now they've softened somewhat and it's just the foreign ones that are out to get them.
Send them to the back of the queue and give it to people who actually want it.
Nothing's for certain, but that does seem to fit the characteristics of transmission so far. Then again, there are degrees of risk - picking the virus up off a surface and sticking it in your eyes/mouth/nose appears less likely that having it on your hand from someone coughing at you and then you touching your eyes/mouth/nose. But inhalation is considered the most common route according to the US CDC and a fairly large proportion of the experts around the world.Am I right in saying that surface transmission of the virus is very low, and most/all comes from breathing in the bad stuff?
Thanks!Nothing's for certain, but that does seem to fit the characteristics of transmission so far. Then again, there are degrees of risk - picking the virus up off a surface and sticking it in your eyes/mouth/nose appears less likely that having it on your hand from someone coughing at you and then you touching your eyes/mouth/nose. But inhalation is considered the most common route according to the US CDC and a fairly large proportion of the experts around the world.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html#Spread
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acs.estlett.0c00966
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-not-masks-aid-spread-of-covid-19-coronavirus
Makes perfect sense. In fact, when I shop I also place my shopping bag flat on the ground and lay the items I've bought on top of it. When I lift the bag everything falls off, which makes no sense because my stuff was "on" the bag. I then get "in" my car - the boot, specifically - so I can drive home. For some reason I'm unable to reach the steering wheel or pedals.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-reinstate-bouncers-outside-supermarkets.html
Gladys not feeling the urgency for masks in the supermarket
But after putting on her mask, Gladys then lowered it below her mouth as she continued with her shop. She said: 'I find them too uncomfortable. I don't see what the fuss is, I've got a mask on, it's just not covering my nose and mouth at the moment'
Same here. You just don't see anyone without a mask in public. There are big fines on it, and there is no warning system, you pay up immediately. Even at work, to get a coffee, you put on your mask (for the few people that are present...)Everyone wears a mask here, young, old and ancient. They have them on in the street and in the shops, because we have to wear them as soon as we leave our homes. It's been this way for months and months, and unless we miraculously have no one with asthma here, it doesn't seem to cause anyone any difficulties.
I do wonder if these people realise they are marking themselves for life. Some day soon the pandemic will be over, but the reputation some people are gathering as lunatic anti-vaccine/hoaxers will stick with them forever. I know a few people in their 20s and 30s who are being slowly ostracised from society because of their beliefs.A lot of them are just itching to be confronted about it too.
The govt. fecked up by not mandating mask wearing back in March. People would have gone for it.
Partly it's because it's enforced. You will be stopped, fined and ultimately arrested if you refuse to don one. There are twice as many police here as in the UK though, more now the Army are involved.Everyone wears a mask here, young, old and ancient. They have them on in the street and in the shops, because we have to wear them as soon as we leave our homes. It's been this way for months and months, and unless we miraculously have no one with asthma here, it doesn't seem to cause anyone any difficulties.
Unless of course someone sneezes or coughs near your hands or on a surface you just touched and then bite your fingernails or something. Better safe than sorry I’d say. Wash wash wash your handsAm I right in saying that surface transmission of the virus is very low, and most/all comes from breathing in the bad stuff?
I still wipe down everything I buy. It's tedious but I've not caught it yet so why stop? It'd be like removing flood barriers because you haven't had a flood.Unless of course someone sneezes or coughs near your hands or on a surface you just touched and then bite your fingernails or something. Better safe than sorry I’d say. Wash wash wash your hands
Feels like it would be an easy win to vaccinate on arrival and departure of quarantine hotels. Charge of course.So down here in NZ we are tightening border restrictions even further because of the new strain of Covid. We had been allowing NZ citizens and essential workers to travel here with mandatory isolation stays in Hotels for 14 days. That hasnt changed but now there is the added requirement of having a negative test within 72 hours of travel here for all other countries except for the Pacific Islands, Australia and Antartica. It looks like we are getting stricter with each month. We dont start our vaccine program until April and that is for just 750,000 people initially out of a 5 million population. We arent expected to get the majority of the population vaccinated until the end of the year. So it looks like another full year of basically isolation from tourism and general travel for us. Right now its summer and the majority of the population are pretty happy with the state of things, the economy is doing much much better than predicted, unemployment is still low but there are some clouds on the horizon and I expect people to start putting pressure on Govt to adapt by the end of the year. We desperately want everywhere else to start having some success with the virus both for them but also for our own desires. Its going to be a long year even when Im just looking in from the sidelines.
You are right not many people who get it die (percentage wise) but it's not about the death rate. If we were only getting 1,000 cases and 50 deaths a day from this virus it would be long off mainstream news and we'd all still be living like it never came let alone was still around.The first lockdown was needed as we had no fecking clue about what this virus was.
I agree with that because even I thought we would all be fecked. I thought this would kill 10% of the world's population. But we are now a year on from this "deadly virus" and we have so much information that we can make sound and logical decisions.
Carrying on with lockdowns and FORCING people to vaccinate for a virus that is not deadly in the slightest is a joke. We should be more concerned about getting people healthy to combat the virus, not looking to force vaccinations and wear masks 24/7.
Really? :OWasn't there a state in Australia that made walking your dog illegal?
Not to mention the people who jizz and piss over your orderI still wipe down everything I buy. It's tedious but I've not caught it yet so why stop? It'd be like removing flood barriers because you haven't had a flood.
Yes - washing your hands is just a good idea anyway - our hands are pretty disgusting at times.Unless of course someone sneezes or coughs near your hands or on a surface you just touched and then bite your fingernails or something. Better safe than sorry I’d say. Wash wash wash your hands
Yeah but that middle aisle at Aldi is brilliant.Not to mention the people who jizz and piss over your order
YeahReally? :O
With all the knowledge, treatments, experience from the first wave and alleged compliance, awareness, protocols for elderly and mask wearing, Italy being first hit got given a pass from the first wave but they have now had thousands more deaths officially in this second wave and it's still counting with over 600 deaths announced today, same goes for many countries that followed Italy. I don't think Western nations are ready yet to live with this like East Asians nations seem to and probably never will. Japan is perhaps the most puzzling for some with the highest older population and the total of 120 million on a very small piece of land with very low amounts of testing,The first lockdown was needed as we had no fecking clue about what this virus was.
I agree with that because even I thought we would all be fecked. I thought this would kill 10% of the world's population. But we are now a year on from this "deadly virus" and we have so much information that we can make sound and logical decisions.
Carrying on with lockdowns and FORCING people to vaccinate for a virus that is not deadly in the slightest is a joke. We should be more concerned about getting people healthy to combat the virus, not looking to force vaccinations and wear masks 24/7.
Personally I use my own because A: Its better than the watered down shit my local shops have, and B: I dont want to stand next to a bunch of people queuingI’m yet to see someone without a mask in a shop but I see idiots not covering their mouths and noses.
Also almost no one uses the hand san as they go in which I find utterly bizarre (maybe they use their own?).
I love itYeah but that middle aisle at Aldi is brilliant.
No need to apologise mate. Didn't sound like gloating at all. Your country has handled the pandemic extremely well. That is something that gives me hope, that the rest of the World can learn from!Sorry, having read back what I posted it looks like gloating. Its not meant that way at all. I have family up in Scotland who are older and have been in some form of lockdown or restrictins since March which bothers me. I really hope you guys in Europe get some positive news of some sort soon