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You will be surprised.
I am exactly double your age and politics is cyclic.
Hopefully Labour will win the next GE. But the problems they will be facing are massive. And the resources to address them are limited.
So it will come down to priorities. And no 2 people will agree on those priorities.
So they will become progressively dissatisfied and a new cycle will start.
That is the reality.
I had you as much older than that!
I second that opinion, although I hope they can agree on at least two priorities, things which will have the same affect for millions of ordinary folk as the Education Act and the NHS Act did... but getting them to agree 3 will likely be a priority too far.
Recession Hits.
Scottish Labour backs motion for 'immediate ceasefire' in Gaza
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-68325563
Labour party up here obviously have a different position to the Labour party down there.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-68325563
Labour party up here obviously have a different position to the Labour party down there.
You are right. I am much much older. In fact I am dead.
Technically there is another option but it would never happen, the King has the ability to kick them out
I would love this. Mostly because we would get a republic in no time.
IIRC the Queen gave that executive power up in 2011.
No idea about that but the monarch does have the power to dissolve parliament by withdrawl of Royal assent
At least they got the right leader in the end, but I still can’t believe that more Scottish Labour members voted for the useless and insignificant Richard Leonard to be leader back in 2017, instead of Anas Sarwar. That really was ridiculous stupidity, at a time when Scottish Labour were a grossly incompetent branch office, and had been for a long time beforehand.
Finally electing Sarwar as their leader a couple of years ago, was a long overdue step in the right direction, on the way back from the doldrums (it was entirely their own fault that they had declined so far and fast).
I feel the same about Labour but underwhelming, vacuous and uninspiring is a definite upgrade on what we've had for years now.
Major and Clarke, whilst I disagreed with their politics, are a cut above anything the Tory party currently have, arguably any party. They were the last of the politicians to be regarded as "big beasts".
Just when you think the Tories and Labour are a poor choice. There's always something worse.
This was hilariously bad. But people will still vote for them.
This was hilariously bad. But people will still vote for them.
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Definitely. When it’s a ‘meh’ or even disappointing option in Labour vs. downright dangerous, institutionally corrupt, morally bankrupt and completely incompetent option in the Tories, it's a no-brainer for me. As an absolute worse case scenario, Labour if they win the next GE (I'm not prepared to say it's a done deal until I see an Exit poll) will be not particularly good in office but still nowhere near as bad as the Tories are and have been for the last 14 years. Now i certainly hope they'll be far better than that, and actually deliver numerous positive changes, but still I think the view that Labour governments are always better than the Tories one.
For example the worst thing that happened under a Labour government in my lifetime was the catostrophic decision to join in with the invasion of Iraq. I was 12 at the time and joined local (in Blackburn where the local MP Jack Straw was the foreign secretary at the time) and national protests against it, and still think it was a travesty. I'm not wanting to trivialising that. Had the Tories (who enthusiastically supported that decision) been in power at the time, not only would the UK still have gone along with Bush and joined the invasion, but there's a strong chance that they wouldn't have even tried to persuade him to seek a UN second resolution, and so it would have started even earlier. And of course unlike Labour, they wouldn't have significantly reduced child poverty, hospital waiting times, introduced the national minimum wage (which they opposed) etc.
I've seen the point raised that even if we hate what Thatcher stood for (I'm not old enough to remember or have lived through her time in power but with my political views I definiely would have been a very strong critic), she was a successful PM in terms of actually achieving her vision for the country (regardless of whether people like or dislike that vision). But the Tories since 2010 certainly can't say that - they've downright failed to deliver many of the things they've wanted.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68146054
This will upset the Tory MPs who recently converted to the plight of the Post masters
This will upset the Tory MPs who recently converted to the plight of the Post masters
I thought exactly the same. They were not faultless, they were instrumental.
If the Tories drop to 1% of the seats at the next election I will laugh so hard I may end up in a coma!
Another Canada 93? Tory Sunak critics fear extinction-level election result | Conservatives | The Guardian
Another Canada 93? Tory Sunak critics fear extinction-level election result | Conservatives | The Guardian
I would love to see it but it won’t happen.
As a youngster I used to think that there was a silent majority of people who thought the same as me and it was just tribalism or the media that managed to get them to vote Tory.
It’s just not the case though, we live in a very conservative county and it’s embedded into people that way of thinking. Thats been embedded by the media for sure but that’s just the way it is. Most of the country are centre right. Most of the country will vote against their own interests because they only recognise voting in their own interests as also voting in the interests of other people and they absolutely do not like to do that. Especially when a lot of those people are a different colour to them or live in a council house and have four children.
I know there's a thread but wanted to put this here. The kind of people we are dealing with.
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A politician once explained how they approach demographics:
70% are considered stonewalled and will not change their opinion no matter how many times they're proven wrong (e.g. brexiters). These are rarely worth trying to win over in a polarised subject (but you risk of losing them to similar parties)
20% are opinionated and educated on politics and can be won over with good politics
10% are considered indifferent and will often will not even bother to vote.
Based on that it's highly unlikely that every single Tory will stop being a Tory, and they will always get a relatively strong percentage.
Hence why it's better to focus on the new generations if you want to win votes.
Thinking only 10% are indifferent and 'often' will not even bother to vote does not fill me with confidence in their opinions to be honest.
This sleazy little cnut should be behind bars.
Michael Gove failed to register hospitality with donor whose firm he referred for PPE contracts
Exclusive: Gove enjoyed VIP hospitality at football match with owner of company awarded £164m of contracts after Gove’s referral
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...onor-whose-firm-he-referred-for-ppe-contracts
Michael Gove failed to register hospitality with donor whose firm he referred for PPE contracts
Exclusive: Gove enjoyed VIP hospitality at football match with owner of company awarded £164m of contracts after Gove’s referral
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...onor-whose-firm-he-referred-for-ppe-contracts
Just £164 million. Gove must have been slipping.
Minister reckons SAS are lying because they won't provide evidence, has counter evidence that he won't provide...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68350610
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68350610
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Having real leather sandals with full fat milk for breakfast puts lead in your pencil!
Is he still an MP? How the feck are ofcom allowing this?
Most 'leather' products are either artificial leather nor not bovine leather these days anyway, right?
He really is a weird, colossal bellend.
I've recently returned back to full fat milk, who knew this would be what turns me into a Tory
The only milk this weirdo drinks probably comes from his nanny.
Wasn't performatively drinking milk an alt-right dogwhistle at one point?
The milk glass thing is I think. There was an MP who carried a bottle of milk around for a bit as well, but I don't think that was a dogwhistle.
Ofcom are a fecking joke!