Yeah he was terrible, but at least he had a translatable skill you could point to (nice left peg).
Fred would have been a better option ffs. I think Fred scored 3 times as many goals as Wout during Wout's time at the club. People kept saying Wout brings pressing and workrate, yeah he did but Fred was better at both plus a bigger goal threat. Both about the same in the air, we could have just stuck Fred up front for 20 games.Hence my original pointI’m criticising Ten Hag for taking way too long before dropping him, over 20 starts before doing so. We had Garnacho on the bench over him for all that time. He was patchy too last season, but still a far better option.
I’m sorry mate but this reads like a RAWK post
On the face of it that video makes legitimate excuses for some of the performances.
Are you telling me Ten Hag didn't idenfity Weghorst as a loan option? United just randomly offered him one of his ex players who also happens to be Dutch?
‘Both our left backs’What is a far leftback?
It was widely reported we only had like £2m available to pay for a loan at the time. I’m not sure there were many options. Same thing happened this year with Werner by all accounts. We seemed to be in the mix but didn’t have the funds.
Something,something new managment and fresh start.
Fergie won a league title with Tom Cleverly starting 20 plus games. Yes a great manager can't make a bad player into a good one. But they can get more out of them or use them to their strengths.
That’s nonsense though. Both Fergie and Pep are extremely good at developing players and getting the best out of them, something which ETH is pretty much the exact opposite of. So many of current City players came there with average reputation and are now a part of well oiled machine pushing on all fronts - Akanji, Ake, Stones, Kovacic, Doku are all players I am sure people on here would now throw the same abuse at that they throw at our players, had they joined us instead of them and followed the same trajectory as all virtually our signings have over the last decade. Half of current City teams, including almost entire defense, are players that people had thought were nothing special.
Yes and that's fair enough. We all know we couldn't have got a world class striker in January and options were limited. But no one with any sense would seriously suggest that Weghorst's signing wasn't Ten Hag's idea. Of all the bargain basement options floating about last January the club didn't randomly offer ETH one of his former players who is also Dutch.
He had never managed Weghorst before United.
McKola is a waffler just like Howson, Goldbridge and others.
That's right I forgot that and assumed he had played for him. Still Dutch though.
Pretty sure they were familiar with each other, I think they lived pretty close in Netherlands, and wasn't Ten Hag's brother his agent?
Ye I never said Onana was a problem. I agree with a more comfortable defence and maybe better strikers who can hold up the ball he’ll be so much better. Also Eriksen was meant to be a back up but played more games than expected last season. But surely the club knew with him and Casemiro we’d be back to square 1 and having to replace them within a couple of seasons.
Well ETH has come out a few weeks ago and said he’ll work with the new owners and they won’t buy a player that the manager doesn’t want. I’m sure that was the case previously. ETH wouldn’t have accepted a player if he didn’t want him.
It can’t keep up with the shite he talks
I couldn't believe what I read. Do they even read what they write? He's basically saying that ETH is so dumb as a manager he needs another person above him to tell him how to play!Why the feck should he need someone to tell him that the suicidal way he's sets this team up to play is fecking stupid and not conducive to winning football games?
Are you telling me United managers chose Weghorst , Ighalo and to keep Martial even though United offered them far better alternatives?
No he isn’t! He’s improved AwB, Dalot, McT, and he had Rashy playing well last season. There are also quotes by Sabitzer about what a good coach ETH is.
They went through about 3 years where they regularly spent £50 + on fullbacks.! The first thing pep did was boot out Hart. We might spend more through our incompetence but don’t let that fool you into thinking Pep doesn’t get players if his squad shows a weakness.
No they didn’t! You’re rewriting history here chap, City regularly sign top young prospects or proven quality. They can attract those players because they are the dominant team in the league. They don’t have to pay the Utd tax because they have no football heritage!
He was useful first month and a half scoring few goals in league cup and Europa and doing some good pressing (like vs Newcastle in the final and getting an assist for 2nd goal) but afterwards and until the end of the season he looked worse and worse. It was fun having him.
donny?
Weghorst's goal stats overall are reasonably good even if they're not at top teams, I can understand why ETH thought he might do a job for us based on this
That's distinctly average. ETH was on drugs if he thought Weghorst would do well for us based on that. Just look at his stats for an actual premier league team, garbage.
Do you understand that while some of the things you claim here are true or at least partly true the majority of it is a load of old bollocks?
A what? I had accusations of WUMing whilst posting a positive perspective on the Bournemouth game. I even got a warning from a mod that though I took the mickey, wich only after some discussion was removed. Why is it so hard for people to see there are different views? Despite red, this still isn't MAO land? The personal attacks. Do I attack people for not supporting ETH?
Ah. But ETH is deemed bad because of A. "no control, low possesion stats" and plenty of shots against during a game.
Yeah the first bolded period there in a top league should have given him an idea as to how the second bolded period would go.
That’s literally what SJR said was part of the problem and why he’s spent over a billion to get control of football operations, but sure you know better!!!
Palace in the cup is the only game Onana didn`t have much to do. Wasn`t a big score but we actually controlled the game for large parts. Palace barely got a sniff.
Because we do the same versus virtually any team. Madrid did it away to City.
I am going to take a wild guess and say that 99% of the posters on here that want Erik out thinks like that because of the poor performances we have seen over his time here, aka facts.
If Madrid played like that against Bournemouth and Brentford then I don't think it would be okay for their fans either
We park the bus against virtually any team? Now this is evidently not true and a picture postcard WUM post.
Another fallacy. Said poster claimed why can't we play like Madrid. Madrid parked the bus in the exact same way ETH did. It's 'we play bad'' when the defence comes with results, but when an example of bad play comes, ''we need results''. Pathetic.
More fallacy. It doesn't matter if Madrid plays like that against Bournemouth or Brentford. Their parking the bus last night, an exact copy of ETH tactics, was and is hailed being genius and their manager Ancelotti should replace ETH. When ETH does it, invents it its "" we play bad!!11!!!"
What do you think would happen to Ancelotti if Madrid played the same and conceded the same number of shots against Getafe, Osasuna, and Las Palmas, and were sitting 7th in La Liga, and finished dead last in a group with Galatasaray and Copenhagen?
Trick question. They would never allow it to come even close to that. They don't know you're supposed to give failing managers time.
Again this is a fallacy! It doesn't matter what if but yeah but no but yeah but woulda coulda. The poster and many others hailed Madrids display last night. Madrid played tactics ETH did to a T against city 6 weeks ago.
