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Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager

Should ETH be kept on or fired by INEOS


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bosnian_red

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If we were a serious club we’d announce that he’s leaving at the end of the season already.
We'd sack him tomorrow and have an interim in place for the cup final. It's a fecking cup final against our rivals, what the feck is wrong with us that we are willing to just give up before we've even kicked a ball? Yes it's unlikely either way, but it's pathetic to keep ten hag going into that game.
 

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It’s a bit disingenuous to claim the same group of players keeping getting the managers the sack when those previous managers have each basically bought themselves a new starting eleven. The problem is we keep building Frankenstein squads that don’t compliment each other.
Exactly. The question is who is we? And why did we do it.
 
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It’s a bit disingenuous to claim the same group of players keeping getting the managers the sack when those previous managers have each basically bought themselves a new starting eleven. The problem is we keep building Frankenstein squads that don’t compliment each other. Each squad seemed to also consist on buying too many players for the #10 role and then shoe-horning them into the team.
He’s done poorly and made awful decisions but whatever eleven you put out has to do better than that tonight… should be embarrassed, disgraceful apathetic performance.

Ten Hag and players. All sh!te
 

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And I'm sure we will do that, the issue is why would you join us when other teams also want to sign you, and by all reports we aren't paying daft wages any more. We'll ultimately see what happens but I don't think we're going to just find better players out there waiting to play for United on the cheap so it's important we start getting the most out of what we have first and then we'll find it easier to get good players in the door, with CL football also.
We recently got a new CEO in my organisation and in relation to a huge project that we're undertaking, she said "we need to work with what we have before we start looking at legislative amendments". It's not a project under my remit but, she's totally correct and that project is now taking a different trajectory. So, I agree, we need someone who can get the best out of a lot of what we have now.

But, I also feel a proper clearout is needed. There's certain players that just can't be here next season: Rashford, Maguire, Eriksen, AWB, Lindelof, Evans, Antony, Martial, Casemiro etc. That's just to name a few. Re players choosing us over other clubs: we need to box clever in that department. We've consistently been an absolute joke in the transfer market for over a decade. Liverpool built a great team out of buying players like: Mane, Robertson, Salah, Wijnaldum etc. Hopefully the likes of Wilcox can help us identify good players that'll fit a certain style of play.
 
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KiD MoYeS

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I have a feeling they will announce this coming week that he is leaving end of the season. If Bayern are interested in him, and their manager search has been shambolic enough that they probably are, then it is everyone's interest to announce his departure and let Bayern start negotiating.
 

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It’s a bit disingenuous to claim the same group of players keeping getting the managers the sack when those previous managers have each basically bought themselves a new starting eleven. The problem is we keep building Frankenstein squads that don’t compliment each other. Each squad seemed to also consist on buying too many players for the #10 role and then shoe-horning them into the team.

One player left tonight from the palace game Rangnick managed but apparently it's the same players letting every manager down:rolleyes:
 

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He's the most bland and uninteresting manager I've ever seen. It's like he's just reading from a script, no emotion or personality to anything he says.
Yep, felt it from the beginning but then I thought maybe I’m being too harsh and judgemental. But then Gary Neville told us eth has an aura and he felt it when he and carragher interviewed him :lol:
 

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I have a feeling they will announce this coming week that he is leaving end of the season. If Bayern are interested in him, and their manager search has been shambolic enough that they probably are, then it is everyone's interest to announce his departure and let Bayern start negotiating.
Don't think he should manage the cup final.
 

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I completely disagree that it isn't relevant, if you sack a manager you need to replace them. I also disagree that Southgate and Potter are better managers, but if you honestly believe that I think we are too far apart to meet in the middle.
Yes, who says we will replace Ten Hag with either? It’s not likely. Ten Hag is a below average manager, that isn’t proven in a top five league. There is little evidence to suggest that he is objectively better than either manager.
 

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Seriously he's not going to Bayern the only club stupid enough to hire a fifty year old who had only achieved in the Dutch League when he helped every advantage is us
Beggars can't be choosers :lol:

They have burned through both Nagelsmann and Tuchel in 2 1/2 seasons and now have publically and unsuccessfully tried to hire Alonso, Nagelsmann (again), Hoeneß, Emery, De Zerbi, Slot, Rangnick, Schmidt, Flick (again), Amorim, Lopetegui and even a hopeful punt at Pep before trying to rudder back on Tuchel's sacking..
Everyone has turned them down. Now they turn to Ten Hag :lol: :lol:
 
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Well they are talking to his camp so…

Says his agent yeah. I'm also taking to Taylor Swift about going for a drink when she comes to Dublin. I think there's more chance of that
 

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We'd sack him tomorrow and have an interim in place for the cup final. It's a fecking cup final against our rivals, what the feck is wrong with us that we are willing to just give up before we've even kicked a ball? Yes it's unlikely either way, but it's pathetic to keep ten hag going into that game.
Actually, I doubt it.

With Glazers in charge sure. They would basically give full power to the manager and not even consider sacking him, but at the moment where the fanbase would become unanimous in wanting him sacked (usually with a 6 months delay), they would sack the manager (and usually hire the manager the fanbase wants). They were an extremely reactive owners.

No idea with Ineos. Why he is even talking with the new technical director on how to prepare the new season?
 

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I dont blame about the goals conceded today but how many chances did we create ? How many final third passes.

For me , that's the problem. You can blame everything on injuries but just tell me why aren't we creating any chances? Obviously our attack isn't this bad surely?
 

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Carragher has been always spot on for United managers. I remember him destroying Moyes ten years ago.

Our Gary on the other hand has always been like the most devoted Caf cultists.
That’s so true.
 

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Our goal difference is only minus 3.

But we have to play vs Arsenal, Newcastle and at Brighton. Not very exciting.
 

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Don't think he should manage the cup final.
Yeah. They’ll have to pay him out either way, and it seems clear that we might as well forfeit the FA Cup final with him in charge. Hell, a forfeit would mean a 3-0 loss, which might be better than what we get with this fool in charge.
 

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Just anounce he's leaving at the end of the season, it'll lift the fans, and likely the players as well, we could also suddenly get a few of them back from their injuries a bit quicker as well.
 

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-3 goal difference. How have people managed to defend this guy all season?
 

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As the Ten Hag supporters keep saying "he needs time and his own players", I'd say the same is true about Rashford, he needs the right manager. I'd give him next season to redeem himself, then it's curtains, he probably knows that too.
Ten Hag has got his own players, and most are not up to it. Antony has been a disaster, Varane & Case need moving (but will be difficult due to age and wages) Malacia maybe ok as backup LB, Jury still out on Mount, who I thought was a good signing but injuries have stiffled him here since joining.
 

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Erik's time has come. Just like Ole's did. Totteham and Villa have been average at best and we still can't finish above them. Hope he finishes strong with FA Cup, it might even temporarily save him, but it will just be more of the same next season.
 

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If you change every single thing at once, you can't tell what works and what doesn't. Its the basics of any experiment.

At some point we need to trying really overhauling the squad, not just keep swapping managers as we have for the last decade.

I'm not saying ETH is the one to take us forward, I just don't think he is the biggest problem.
He is
 

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We'd sack him tomorrow and have an interim in place for the cup final. It's a fecking cup final against our rivals, what the feck is wrong with us that we are willing to just give up before we've even kicked a ball? Yes it's unlikely either way, but it's pathetic to keep ten hag going into that game.
I hate when I hear people say it wouldn't be fair on him to sack him before the final. Fair?
It wouldn't be fair on the fans to not try something different. Why should we care about one man's feelings over our chance of winning a cup
 

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Says his agent yeah. I'm also taking to Taylor Swift about going for a drink when she comes to Dublin. I think there's more chance of that
Says most reputable German outlets…
 

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What does that actually mean though? It means they were granted to appoint their people in the footballing executive positions, no? If those people only start to work in June or July, it is not actually easy to pull the trigger. The club leadership is in a transition, and INEOS are not sole owners. Ratcliffe can't just call in to sack a manager, can he? Or anyway he won't because that is not the way to run a football club. The way to do it is to appoint people to make the decisions. And AGAIN, these people are not in the job yet. So no, they are not yet in control.
How am I the only one pointing this out? Am I actually completely stupid somehow? But why does every reply only say "but but INEOS are in charge now" instead of adressing the fine print?
They're not in position, but they will be. They all know it. And like I said, they probably carry out their role on the down low right now, just not in an official capacity. So if they want to sack the manager, then I'm sure they can. The Glazers wouldn't stand in their way if they said "listen, here's the plan" or that they want to try something different to try and get us over the line this season. Absolutely no way the Glazers say no, just like they wouldn't when their guys are in position this summer. I mean, why let Ineos install their structure on the football side if they're going to turn down their request to sack the manager? It makes no sense. And a technicality of them not being in post officially doesn't matter when they could be on the phone asking for it to happen.
 

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Probably the most annoying thing out of this period is I got banned several times just for being negative about the guy, just to be proven absolutely right about him later on. No one will get me these needless warning points back.

Not like I want to post on RedCafe again after the way I was treated here but it's funny how out of all our post Ferguson coach, I got banned for being negative about the worst of them all.

Oh well, just wanted to say that, which will probably be the last time I ever post here.
 

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Don't make the same mistake as much of Sevillismo...eth may not be as good but where the problem lies in United is in the squad that is so poor and that as a whole does not know how to compete and when it does, it does so in fits and starts. ..this is seen by a blind man and a network fan who has been following you for 20 years and the drop in level in the last decade has been brutal.