A lot more dangerous than a two footed tackle.
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Even caveman Holt is better than Carroll
They'll be showing that long range effort that De Gea easily had covered for the next 5 seasons on Sky. It'll be the new Aguerooooo.
Won a few headers against players 6 inches shorter than him. Elbowed a few people and generally showed no technical ability in possession. Barnstorming English performance.
I think he gets a shove from Vidic though (for the De Gea challenge), which causes him to lose control.
Sorry, but he was good. He did what he does well. Challenge on De Gea was shocking, challenge on Hernandez won them a point.
Nope.
He looks directly at de gea, he doesnt even bother to pretend he's going for the ball.
It was a red.
It should be at least a 3 game retro ban.
While that may be true (and I'm not convinced), he still gets bumped by Vidic.
"A player is guilty of serious foul play if he uses excessive force or brutality against an opponent when challenging for the ball when it is in play.
A tackle that endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as serious foul play.
A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off."
The awkward cnut was nowhere near the flight of the ball, regardless of Dave's punch. He's at least a foot and a half from connecting with it, yet he charges in so clumsily like that. Incredible that he didn't receive at least a caution for it.
He wasn't far from where it was going. Remember he was knocked off course by Vidic too.
If you did that in the middle of the pitch what would happen?
You tell me.
He's a big lump of talentless stinking shite.
He wins some headers, fouls a lot, runs around and acts a nuisance, that's what he does because he's nothing else to give. He has no footballing ability whatsoever.
Not only did he near take De Gea's head off, he clattered into Evra as well. It amazes me how somebody like him can get picked for the England squad.
He wins some headers, fouls a lot, runs around and acts a nuisance, that's what he does because he's nothing else to give. He has no footballing ability whatsoever.
Not only did he near take De Gea's head off, he clattered into Evra as well. It amazes me how somebody like him can get picked for the England squad.
Nowhere near it because 1) he was pushed midair and 2) De Gea got to it first
Not a good challenge and probably worthy of a yellow, but not nearly as bad as you guys are making out.
Did he use excessive force or not?
He gave us a hard time in fairness. Perfect for a team like west ham.
No talent is correct but not a striker I imagine we would enjoy playing against every weekl
No talent is correct but not a striker I imagine we would enjoy playing against every weekl
I'm not getting drawn into legalistic pedantry. There's no way it should be a red.
For a mid table team who play long ball he's decent enough.
still funny to know how the scousers pissed away their money on this...
If Premier League referees actually applied the rules of football he would have half the impact in a game that he does.
1) He wasn't getting there anyway. The trajectory of the ball alone proves that.
2) He did, and got clobbered by that oaf for his troubles.
I'm not suggesting he should have received a red card for it, but he should have at least received a booking. When you compare this challenge to what he was actually booked for, it shows how crazy the decision was.
He actually got MoM? 
In no league other than this would that disgusting performance be praised. He offers nothing whatsoever to the game of football.
In no league other than this would that disgusting performance be praised. He offers nothing whatsoever to the game of football.
So how people feel about an incident is more important than the rules?
Sure he does - he offers hope to people of all ages that irregardless of skill or fine motor control you too can make millionsHe actually got MoM?
In no league other than this would that disgusting performance be praised. He offers nothing whatsoever to the game of football.
I think we agree.
It's called a judgment call.
Maybe it is. The way I see it is that he was going for the ball and as he jumped he got knocked off course by Vidic and went into De Gea. There's no intent, in my opinion, but the recklessness of it is deserves a yellow.
Ha ha.
It might just be my general lack of bravery on a football field, but if I'm going up for that header, my arms are somewhere in front of me to stop myself smashing my head into the keeper's. Dunno if that'd be seen as common, though.
Also, Untied, have you got a source for that rule? I don't recall dangerous play being a red card offence. Most of what happens in a tackle is dangerous in some way or another.
Of course what he did was dangerous. But I don't see the good old English Football Association ruling a big, strong centre forward challenging for a header as excessive force.
Also, Untied, have you got a source for that rule? I don't recall dangerous play being a red card offence. Most of what happens in a tackle is dangerous in some way or another.
Of course what he did was dangerous. But I don't see the good old English Football Association ruling a big, strong centre forward challenging for a header as excessive force.
A penalty for West Ham would make more sense than a red card. But neither make sense.
Stop making me defend Andy Carroll I don't enjoy it.
Stop making me defend Andy Carroll I don't enjoy it.
were intentions relevant when Shawcross broke Ramsey's leg? All he was trying to do was clear the ball up field after a loose touch left him out of position.
I've never had the seething anger that other Arsenal supporters had, so maybe try another example?
I agree with you, I think it's been blown out of proportion. He could hardly have stopped himself once he was in the air and Vidic's nudge certainly helped send him into De Gea.
Agreed with Eboue here. Vidic pushed him when he was jumping for the ball.
Caroll's actually worse than Heskey. But he's still young, and with work hard, might get to Heskey's level.
Caroll's actually worse than Heskey. But he's still young, and with work hard, might get to Heskey's level.
I don't think he meant it. Looks worse than it was.
If you accept that the Shawcross red was wrong, then fine I'll leave you to your opinion.
Carroll intended to attack the ball and challenge de Gea in the air, the nudge caused the impact where it happened but his dangerous play was attacking the ball with so much speed and power that it endangered the other players. He was using excessive force, and it was a red whether he intended to catch de Gea or not.