For his height, he isn't close to being the dominating force he could and should be.Look at Drogba and how he used his body strength to hold defenders off, win headers and trap the ball.Carroll doesn't even know how to use the physical advantage he has over others
£35m for Andy Carroll | On loan @ WHU (the big, long, useless streak of pi**...)
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I think he's OK. He's slowly progressing again and is having a fairly OK season at west ham.
I also found out he's being rated as the 6th best player in the league according to this site:
http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/25...erStatistics/England-Premier-League-2012-2013
Either way he's not worth any £35m. Perhaps it's closer to £15m. I think the long ball game at Liverpool didn't suit him at all. There are worse forwards out there.
I also found out he's being rated as the 6th best player in the league according to this site:
http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/25...erStatistics/England-Premier-League-2012-2013
Either way he's not worth any £35m. Perhaps it's closer to £15m. I think the long ball game at Liverpool didn't suit him at all. There are worse forwards out there.
To be fair though at Carroll's age Drogba was knocking about in Ligue 2.
I think strikers make better use of their physicality as they get older
Even back then Drogba was a better player than the current Carroll tbh.
Yeah, when he was sold for 80k?
You should be a scout.
You should be a scout.
You have to view the whoscored.com stats contextually. They award points for actions considered to be positive and take them away for actions considered to be negative. The area that Andy Carroll really excels in is 'aerials won', he wins an average of 9.6 per game. Comfortably the best in the Premier League, but not necessarily the kind of attribute that you would look for in a top class striker. Nor would you want you team playing the tactics that utilise that particular attribute to its maximum.
He has also only started 18 Premier League games this season. It would be more enlightening to see if he could maintain his levels over a sustained period.
How much a player was sold for means feck all in certain cases, the perfect example being Carroll... I'm basing my opinion on actual live footage from both players
Well if you're opinions are that accurate you should be a scout then.
I assume the 'aerials won' stat refers to headers won in proximity to a defender? If it's that simple then it is basically meaningless, getting your head to the ball is one thing, but producing a meaningful output from that header is a completely different thing. As has already been said, he often wins the header, but the second ball normally goes to an opponent. There's also the fact that defenders often don't try and win a header, they just ensure that the attackers header is poor.
You have to take whoscored with a grain of salt in general these days. It's proven to be completely wrong on a few occasions and I personally don't trust them 100%. Using it to back up an argument is ok and to draw inference to a particular player.
4/7 aerial duels won last night.
Yeah, he wins stuff.
4/7 aerial duels won last night.
Yeah, he wins stuff.
The fascination with him that people have is baffling.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22959336
Looks all but set to sign for West Ham. 15m.. Shocking fee that is.
Looks all but set to sign for West Ham. 15m.. Shocking fee that is.
15M...surely Liverpool would've taken about 10.
West Ham are mad. Stuck in the dark ages.
"The transfer fee was agreed in May, but the England international was unsure about a move before a World Cup year."
What the feck? unsure about a move? He was at West Ham already the big fecking plank, plus he's so shit he should be nowhere near the England squad in a WC year.
What the feck? unsure about a move? He was at West Ham already the big fecking plank, plus he's so shit he should be nowhere near the England squad in a WC year.
£100,000 per week too apparently! 
£100,000!!
£100,000!!
£100,000 per week too apparently!
£100,000!!
Now that knocks me sick. I'm a better footballer than him.
£100,000 per week too apparently!
£100,000!!
Did West Ham manage to forget that there at least a million people on the planet as tall, if not taller, than Carroll?
I mean, that's what they're paying for isn't it?
I think I provide more value to society than Andy Carroll. Like seriously.
Dont know what West Ham were thinking with this one. Not only is he a good for nothing plank of a footballer but he is injured half the season.
You really have to laugh at transfers like this. For such a limited footballer, he really has attracted some silly transfer fees
If true that is fecked. I hope it isn't, but everything about the Carroll situation has been ludicrous enough for this to be possible.
Not only does every selling club already have the "well Liverpool paid £35m for Andy Carroll, so I reckon so and so's worth.." card to play, but now any player chasing a new contract can tell their agent to start negotiations with 'Andy Carroll is on 100k a week, therefore...". City and Chelsea paved the way for the destruction of English football, but now Andy Carroll is single-handedly kicking the shit out of it whilst it's down.
Not only does every selling club already have the "well Liverpool paid £35m for Andy Carroll, so I reckon so and so's worth.." card to play, but now any player chasing a new contract can tell their agent to start negotiations with 'Andy Carroll is on 100k a week, therefore...". City and Chelsea paved the way for the destruction of English football, but now Andy Carroll is single-handedly kicking the shit out of it whilst it's down.
There's no way West ham have paid 15 millions for that lump. They must have agreed to say they have to save LFC's blushes.
It could rise to £17.5 million according to the Mail.
Think about that, Andy Carroll's last two transfers will have cost over £50 million.
Andy Carroll. £50 million.
How much money is Newcastle pocketing from this deal?
I think he'll be a success at West Ham.
Define success?
Scoring more than 15goals next season for West Ham. I think he'll suit their system and will thrive in that.
I've not seen anything to indicate that when he's been fit and played for them. He's still looked limited and shite.
They could have taken Bendtner off of us for 15p and would be better off.
They could have taken Bendtner off of us for 15p and would be better off.
They want to hoof the ball, let him control with his chest, take a shot. Rinse and Repeat.
Match made in heaven, imo.
100k/wk is insanity though.
Match made in heaven, imo.
100k/wk is insanity though.
As long as their system revolves around their strikers ramming themselves head first into opposition keepers you are spot on. He is perfect for that.
The moral of the story is that even incompetent people can somehow get rich and famous.
Well, Carroll and Nolan are now reunited again. So what could go wrong?
I know man. I wish I was born in the UK or Europe.
With all the money spent on him already, he is really going to think he's THAT good.
You'd still be incompetent and poor.
Just have a read of that again in your head. 'Scoring more than 15 goals'
Nope.
Paying him £100k per week aint that bad when you consider West Ham were paying off the likes of Kieron Dyer and Freddy Ljungberg over £80k a week each just a few years back. They have a habit of grossly overpaying useless players.
It amazes me that teams keep paying big money for him. I don't think I've ever rated a premier league player less, if I'm honest.
I actually think Heskey was better than him, I really do. He's an absolute donkey.
I actually think Heskey was better than him, I really do. He's an absolute donkey.