“All or Nothing” Man City Documentary Series on Amazon Prime

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That’s a pretty archaic view of football. Yes it’s natural that as the game emerged the bigger teams were the ones to attract the imaginations of foreign countries, which is why certain team names resound all over the world.(in every sport or indivudual sport) Man united, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayern Munich, ac Milan, inter Milan etc.

There are rare occasions when for whatever reason a smaller club will have one of these bizarre fan bases like the phillipines stoke city fan club but largely, the established clubs will always reach a wider fan base. This is not to encourage some sort of old boys club and several teams in recent years have threatened to upset the apple cart. Tottenham are becoming more and more popular, Arsenal were massively popular and remain to be especially after their emergence with wenger in the 90s (they also had lots of history which helps), but their success was achieved organically. Leicester city had the entire world rooting for them in recent years, unfortunately they basically got dismantled and the romance died with it but had it not I’m sure their fan base would grow globally too.

Football is the most global sport in the world, and the premier league is hugely popular. Because a fan loves overseas does not mean he or she is any less connected to a club than some guy who lives in Salford and moans about mourinho on line all day. That’s what sport is about and despite footballs continued selling out to money and commercialism some people are still massively bound to a club for romantic reasons and can support them passionately from anywhere in the world. I’m not from Manchester but I grew up loving them, I’ve been a season ticket holder and will be again when I return from working in a part of the world that I wake up at 4am to watch and never miss a game. In fact, few things in life are important to me as man united. But I’m not from Manchester so I have no right?

Football fans are absolutely entitled to be indignant about first, the manner of city’s emergence and more recently the manner of how they have responded to success. They are a small time petty club without class, who happen to play good football at the moment. This football though -does not outweigh their toxic role in the modern game. So go on, watch their documentary and eat it up- it’s what they’re paying for. But I’d hold back on lecturing a person you don’t know about the limits of his or her capacity to support a club.
You misunderstand me. I'm a foreign fan. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. But when you see people on here complaining about "scousers" who've never been to England or saying "massives" and "rags" and "bitters" when they have never met anyone from Manchester, it gets a bit obnoxious. I don't think there should be 8 or 9 clubs that deserve to win trophies in perpetuity and everyone else should be content watching their players get bought up by Manchester United and Barcelona because "at least they earned their success". I don't think that because Manchester City was once a club that struggled for success that their fans and the generations of supporters on that side should just accept that they will never win anything and only the clubs who sell noodle sponsorships can buy top players.
 

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You misunderstand me. I'm a foreign fan. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. But when you see people on here complaining about "scousers" who've never been to England or saying "massives" and "rags" and "bitters" when they have never met anyone from Manchester, it gets a bit obnoxious. I don't think there should be 8 or 9 clubs that deserve to win trophies in perpetuity and everyone else should be content watching their players get bought up by Manchester United and Barcelona because "at least they earned their success". I don't think that because Manchester City was once a club that struggled for success that their fans and the generations of supporters on that side should just accept that they will never win anything and only the clubs who sell noodle sponsorships can buy top players.
I know you’re a foreign fan I just thought the way you worded that post suggested the fan was less entitled to feel a certain way. I agree with the POV that foreign fans who get embroiled in the more local facets of the rivalry are misguided. I also don’t think Man City should be resigned to nothing. But when Ferguson left united he left a chasm and several teams lay in waiting that had been sustaining some consistency or level for a long time competing with Uniteds dominance. Leicester showed it was an open field. City’s spending just blew most of them out of the water. The funny thing is I know liverpool fans who were hoping to see them win the title against us, seemingly oblivious to the fact that without city’s financial doping, Liverpool would have had a title under their belt.

City fans will never know what it’s like to get real success. The outrage and anger when they get knocked out of the champions league, their captain talking about the inevitability of a quadruple. All of it points to a club so readily willing to grab success at any cost, when a few years ago the thought of even being near the competition city fans would have been delirious with joy. Now it’s an inevitability that they will win it. A certainty, like Chelsea. And that is very different to a club spending a bit and making the most of an opportunity. They’ve cheapened the game and the merits of the rewards.

City have bought their way to the top, then release this documentary trying to virtue signal to the world and portray united and some sort of anti football entity despite generations of history and pedigree in amazing football? It’s a cheap pathetic desperate stunt from a pathetic club.
 

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You misunderstand me. I'm a foreign fan. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. But when you see people on here complaining about "scousers" who've never been to England or saying "massives" and "rags" and "bitters" when they have never met anyone from Manchester, it gets a bit obnoxious. I don't think there should be 8 or 9 clubs that deserve to win trophies in perpetuity and everyone else should be content watching their players get bought up by Manchester United and Barcelona because "at least they earned their success". I don't think that because Manchester City was once a club that struggled for success that their fans and the generations of supporters on that side should just accept that they will never win anything and only the clubs who sell noodle sponsorships can buy top players.
I'll grant you the "scousers" bit, but I don't think you need to meet anyone from Manchester to use terms like "bitters", "rags" and "massives". The history behind "rags" for instance, has no correlation with the origin of a fanbase.

Only people who take football way too seriously would care about what other fans think of them. If you find some fans obnoxious for their views, fair enough, that's your FOE, but you really can't expect people you hardly know to conform to your views.
 

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Regardless of people watching it or not it is another smart PR move by City to allow this documentary to be created. The media team they've created is probably the best that i've seen from any football club and it's clear they would like to try and be a global superclub ala United, Barcelona and Madrid.
 

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It’s idiotic to even watch this. I’m all for watching documentaries for knowledge but I couldn’t watch an entire season of city winning game after game. You can call me bitter or whatever but I’m fine with it
 

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I guess I'm boycotting Amazon now.
 

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Wait. Are United fans arguing with each other about the merits of watching a City documentary on a season that they won the league and we win feck all?

Y'all got time on your hands. It's perfectly understandable that United fans that want to watch that shite why in the world would they need to justify it? For those who would like to watch it go and knock yourself out but quit being so fecking judgemental wrt those that don't. It's perfectly understandable :houllier:

Getting tired of United fans arguing amongst themselves over insignificant shite :lol:

What is happening to this place?
 
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Why the feck would any United fan with any sort of self respect want to watch that propaganda nonsense?
More importantly, why have they got a series on Amazon/Netflix before us?
 

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Wait. Are united fans arguing with each other about the merits of watching a City documentary on a season that they won the league and we win feck all?

Y'all got time on your hands. It's perfectly understandable that United fans that want to watch that shite why in the world would they need to justify it? For those who would like to watch it go and knock yourself out but quit being so fecking judgemental wrt those that don't. It's perfectly understandable :houllier:

Getting tired of United fans arguing amongst themselves over insignificant shite :lol:

What is happening to this place?
Roll back just over two years and you’ll pinpoint what happened
 

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I’m personally amazed at how many adults can’t watch a sports documentary for what it is... a sports documentary.
Given most of it is going to be celebrating your rival team's succedsed, I don't see the point. I wouldn't mind watching the odd clip here or there on YouTube of Pep behind the scenes. But I can't find a logical reason to watch a Netflix show about City's incredible season. Urgh.
 

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Because Amazon got paid to do it, rather than the other way round.
We should pay to do it.

Ours would just be full of everyone looking happy and getting along in the dressing room which the would confuse feck out of people.
 

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Probably posted somewhere but Mourinho talked about this:

Mourinho added: "You know, a movie without me doesn't sell much. I needed to be there.

"But if they send me one of the shirts they had in the tunnel when we played there, the shirts that were saying: 'We did it on derby day.'

"If they send me one of these shirts, I give up about the royalties."

I might love him.
 

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Probably posted somewhere but Mourinho talked about this:

Mourinho added: "You know, a movie without me doesn't sell much. I needed to be there.

"But if they send me one of the shirts they had in the tunnel when we played there, the shirts that were saying: 'We did it on derby day.'

"If they send me one of these shirts, I give up about the royalties."

I might love him.
That’s his best one liner since joining us
 

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The Jose/Pep rivalry has not really happened since they've both been in England. Hopefully Pep bites back and we have a season of them both going at each other. Respect is boring.
 

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We should pay to do it.

Ours would just be full of everyone looking happy and getting along in the dressing room which the would confuse feck out of people.
Yeah, everyone singing show tunes and dancing, I think all sports reporters would quit on the spot upon seeing it. :lol:
 

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The Jose/Pep rivalry has not really happened since they've both been in England. Hopefully Pep bites back and we have a season of them both going at each other. Respect is boring.
He didn’t. Said the content was nothing to do with him or City. He knows it’s classless trash.
 

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Regardless of people watching it or not it is another smart PR move by City to allow this documentary to be created. The media team they've created is probably the best that i've seen from any football club and it's clear they would like to try and be a global superclub ala United, Barcelona and Madrid.
LOL.

Their entire operation is about PR. Of course they’ll be ahead. They’re just propaganda for a nation state.
 

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Boring Pep. :(
How the feck can he say the content is nothing to do with him or City though, that's all it is!
"What happened in the documentary is not our responsibility," he added. "It's down to the producers to decide what they want to show to the world.

"I think it's an honest product. After one month we didn't know that the cameras were there. After that they decided what to do“
 

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"What happened in the documentary is not our responsibility," he added. "It's down to the producers to decide what they want to show to the world.

"I think it's an honest product. After one month we didn't know that the cameras were there. After that they decided what to do“
That's good though right? He's saying it's an honest portrayal.

They're showing entire team talks from start to finish. Not sure how he can say he has nothing to do with the content.
 

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That's good though right? He's saying it's an honest portrayal.

They're showing entire team talks from start to finish. Not sure how he can say he has nothing to do with the content.
I think it’s the tone he’s referring to. The portrayal of Mourinho, good vs evil.

It’s not honest. It’s a puff piece.
 

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I have not watched it, nor do I have a plan to watch it. To those that have watched it though, is there anything actually interesting in it, or is it just 8 hours of City and Pep wankfest ??
 

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Who willingly sits and watches an 8-hour Abu-Dhabi approved fluff piece about City being apparently the bestest football team ever to play the game?

"I watched it as a true fan of the sport" get to feck. I'd rather wedge a rusty screwdriver up my dickhole than willingly be forcefed 8 hours of City propaganda.
 

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Haven't seen the series but what has City exactly acomplished so far to justify all that hype? Now, if they won three CLs in a row like Real did, an Amazon special would make sense. But since the takeover ten years ago and after an absolute fortune spent, they've won exactly the same number of league titles Chelsea and United have and are yet to win anything in Europe. Am I missing something?
 

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Regardless of people watching it or not it is another smart PR move by City to allow this documentary to be created. The media team they've created is probably the best that i've seen from any football club and it's clear they would like to try and be a global superclub ala United, Barcelona and Madrid.
Completely agree. It was really well made and they throw shade at some of the traditional big clubs in a clever and indirect way - essentially implying United's manager's career success if predicated on 10 men hind the ball, that City deserved to win all 3 games they lost vs. Liverpool, that Wenger always moans etc.

Good insight into the inner workings of a football club, but ever a puff piece if I saw one.
 

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Completely agree. It was really well made and they throw shade at some of the traditional big clubs in a clever and indirect way - essentially implying United's manager's career success if predicated on 10 men hind the ball, that City deserved to win all 3 games they lost vs. Liverpool, that Wenger always moans etc.

Good insight into the inner workings of a football club, but ever a puff piece if I saw one.
Yeah, it's smart from them from a business point of view. To win the next generation of young fans, City want to portray themselves as a modernising and progressive force in football, vs the old and conservative traditional big teams. As well as winning trophies obviously, which is always the main reason teams acquire fans.
 

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Yeah, it's smart from them from a business point of view. To win the next generation of young fans, City want to portray themselves as a modernising and progressive force in football, vs the old and conservative traditional big teams. As well as winning trophies obviously, which is always the main reason teams acquire fans.
I think you all are overstating it massively. Will be forgotten about in a few years time. If even that long...
 

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I think you all are overstating it massively. Will be forgotten about in a few years time. If even that long...
Yes, this specific documentary will. I'm talking more broadly about their marketing strategy.
 

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Should be in the entertainment forum. Anyway y'all enjoy.