Trizy
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They were against it yet they backed Moyes?.. Great judge of managers, those three.
True but we stopped trying in the last few games81 pts don't win the league often. Normally, 85+ pts would do the job.
Over last 6 games we lost to Brighton and West Brom and drew to West Ham. We could have probably got 4-5 points more here.True but we stopped trying in the last few games
So just a normal Mourinho interview thenI cannot wait to hear Jose's interview after he gets sacked, lots of revealing (and nasty) things IMHO
More than usually of courseSo just a normal Mourinho interview then
Probably already been said in the thread but look how that turned out with the hiring of Moyes.The basic idea of this thread is to try and get a groundswell of support for Ferguson, Charlton, Gill and the rest being given a more active roll at the club
A good call in hindsight. At the time it would've been a terrible appointment, and it may well have been a disaster.A number of people did though, he was like the Eddy Howe alternative back then. Was actually a good call by those people
He wasI owe Sir Bobby an apology, he was right.
Gill definitely seems like the outlier here.Hey, I was too!
Sir Bobby Charlton, Sir Alex Ferguson, David Gill and Mrs Smoker. Spot the intruder.
[/QUOTE]I too was a big fan of Jose and his first spell at Chelsea provided some brilliant football and he did deserve the Special One tag.
I was not impressed with his treatment of the club doctor but saw this as a 'blip' and was thrilled when he replaced the dreaded LVG.
For some reason he has not seemed at home at OT and he doesn't seem to have bonded with the players.
Something is wrong and while I accept he has to take the blame for the way things have turned out on the pitch I suspect that there is something far deeper than just Jose..
Ha - good point! I never wanted Moyes because taking Everton to a respectable place on the table and qualifying for a European competition didn't cut it for me in terms of who had to come after the managerial giant Sir Alex. I didn't want him.They were against it yet they backed Moyes?.. Great judge of managers, those three.
Some people will run with anything. There are people on the caf who don't even know Sir Bobby's age and it's likely some of them don't know about the injuries he sustained in the Munich air crash.Yeah that's what i wanna know. I haven't heard anything about him staying away due to Jose.
Yes. Many of us hesitantly accepted Mourinho because "he wins". But he's been a poor fit for this football club in pretty much every way. And he hasn't made up for it by doing good job either. Sir Bobby from everything we read was always against Mourinho.I owe Sir Bobby an apology, he was right.
I certainly was not one of them. I believe I was deep inside a place on earth where internet access was not possible. When I got back, Pogba, Zlatan, Mkhit were all signed.And 81% of this forum was for it, if my memory serves me right.
Well they did try to get Guardiola before Moyes in all honesty.They were against it yet they backed Moyes?.. Great judge of managers, those three.
A crop of dollops didn't want to take responsibility on the pitch when Moyes and LvG were in charge of us.........I'm not really getting it. Mourinho hasn't done anything like the eye-gouging or acting the twat that the greats could rightly have been concerned about before he joined the club. He's been subdued, genuine, calculating and heads a crop of dollops who don't want to take responsibility on the pitch.
Weird thread.
To be fair they have made one mistake. Perhaps they got sentimental what with Moyes being a Scot. Does that mean we should never take their opinions into account ever again? They’re still worth listening to in terms of sounding board for ideas. Trust them more than Woodward put it that way.They were against it yet they backed Moyes?.. Great judge of managers, those three.
Well, we were without options courtesy Woodward.To be fair they have made one mistake. Perhaps they got sentimental what with Moyes being a Scot. Does that mean we should never take their opinions into account ever again? They’re still worth listening to in terms of sounding board for ideas. Trust them more than Woodward put it that way.
Should be plural. That aside, I was one of those who didn't want Jose. My reasons were based on not wanting United to change its identity and buy expensive/over-priced foreign players instead of looking closer to home. I think I also referred to Jose's controversy with the club doctor at Chelsea as an indicator of how he was inappropriate.Wow, we have so many proud nostradamus here.
This is a fair assessment.People reacting like Jose Mourinho is a flop and failed to do anything good. Just to remind you all who react now in the way "i told you so".
1)Won Europa league( only trophy that we didn't have)
2) Won League cup( trophy is a trophy). Ask Liverpool or Spurs fan about it
3)Secured playing in Champ league both times
4)In second season Fa cup final and we finished second behind City who invested much much more than us. Not only in that 2 years. Yes, that second season is debatable in many ways and maybe it is not some great result but it is not bad result also. Still better than other rivals except City.
5) Rebuilded a squad with quality and young(ish) players. With central defenders he made a total mess but in midfield and attack any coach who comes here is covered with quality. People keep saying how he is short term manager but our squad is built for long term. Next manager can put this first 11:
De gea(27) -Dalot(19), Bailly(24), Lindelof(24), Shaw(23)- Pogba(25), Fred(25), Pereira(22) or Mctominay(21)- Lukaku(25), Martial(22) or Lingard(25), Rashford(20).
Alexis(29), Matic(30), Herrera(28), Smalling(28), Rojo(28) are bellow 30 so even by Caf standards they can be useful next 3 seasons at least.
Yes, third season is debacle so far. In every area, nobody can deny that. We can talk all day about reasons but it is all mentioned many times in many other threads so no need now. But to judge Jose only on these 2 months in 3rd season is ridiculous.
If we had been in a proper title fight, I think we'd probably have won those matches.Over last 6 games we lost to Brighton and West Brom and drew to West Ham. We could have probably got 4-5 points more here.
One, catastrophic mistake.To be fair they have made one mistake. Perhaps they got sentimental what with Moyes being a Scot. Does that mean we should never take their opinions into account ever again? They’re still worth listening to in terms of sounding board for ideas. Trust them more than Woodward put it that way.