Gaming 1836 - The Europa Universalis 4 Experiment (Hands-off) - Map & stats in second post - Final Map and Stats update - Timelapse video

AnotherLondonManc

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Starting to feel like my empire is satisfied with where it is. Everyone around me is either allied, a bonafide super power, or @Shakesey

Nobody will invade my core provence with my ridiculous navy, and I seem to have lost the ambition I had early on.

Side note @nimic, for the next player analysis, could you include a prediction given your omnipresence and knowledge of them game? I'd be curious to know what you think will happen, and we can compare that with the end result
 

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Starting to feel like my empire is satisfied with where it is. Everyone around me is either allied, a bonafide super power, or @Shakesey

Nobody will invade my core provence with my ridiculous navy, and I seem to have lost the ambition I had early on.

Side note @nimic, for the next player analysis, could you include a prediction given your omnipresence and knowledge of them game? I'd be curious to know what you think will happen, and we can compare that with the end result
I could try! I'll try to remember to add something like that.
 

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As for the alliances, the Reformation is still under way, so some alliances could be split up. Even more so if we get a League War, which is basically the game's version of the Thirty Years War, with Europe dividing to support the Protestants or the Catholics in the Holy Roman Empire.

I always post this at the end of pages, so here it is if anyone missed it:

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NOTE: I am going to add the numbers for any colonies you have to your own numbers for Development, Army Size, Naval Size.

1565 (Click the picture to make it bigger - you can also open/download all the maps so far and easily compare the progress)




Lusatia is the Holy Roman Emperor (not one of you)



All of the following stats are Cafites-only.

Development (total value of provinces - I'm going to add any colonial nations you have to your total)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 699 (+272) <-- Note: with colonies included
  2. Wing Attack Plan R: 696 (+153)
  3. Solius: 683 (+266)
  4. Hobbers: 615 (+68)
  5. Eboue: 555 (+194)
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 525 (+81)
  7. adexkola: 522 (+178)
  8. Walrus: 470 (+102)
  9. Abizzz: 467 (+183)
  10. Tiber: 390 (+68)
Prestige (sort of a "current status" value, goes from -100 to 100)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 92
  2. Walrus: 74
  3. Samid: 64
  4. Solius: 62
  5. Wing Attack Plan R: 59
  6. Welsh Wonder: 52
  7. Eboue: 48
  8. adexkola: 47
  9. BD: 46
  10. AnotherLondonManc: 46
Power Projection (how much you've bullied (war, insults, embargo, etc) rivals. Up to 3 nations you've picked that are roughly evenly matched with you - goes from 0 to 100)
  1. BD: 82
  2. Solius: 71
  3. Abizzz: 66
  4. Organic Potatoes: 59
  5. Walrus: 58
  6. RedSky: 56
  7. Eboue: 47
  8. adexkola: 44
  9. AnotherLondonManc: 44
  10. BootsyCollins: 41
  11. hobbers: 41
  12. Samid: 41
Total Army size - I'm switching over to whole numbers, and adding colonies
  1. Solius: 155 000 (+59k)
  2. adexkola: 89 000 (+39k)
  3. Organic Potatoes: 87 000 (+40k) (with colonies)
  4. Eboue: 84 000 (+42k)
  5. Abizzz: 77 000 (+29k)
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 74 000 (+26)
  7. BD: 73 000 (+14k)
  8. hobbers: 63 000 (+13k)
  9. P-Nut: 62 000 (+28k)
  10. Wing Attack Plan R: 58 000 (-13k <-- 6 years into a war with Walrus)
Total Navy Size - I'm adding colonies
  1. AnotherLondonManc: 105 (+34)
  2. Solius: 104 (+52)
  3. Organic Potatoes: 75 (+14) (with colonies)
  4. altodevil: 61 (+22)
  5. Welsh Wonder: 59 (+18)
  6. VeevaVee: 58 (+13)
  7. hobbers: 58 (+13)
  8. Igor Drefljak: 57 (+14)
  9. Wing Attack Plan R: 51 (+13)
  10. BD: 50 (-2)
Total monthly income
  1. Solius: 152 (+65)
  2. AnotherLondonManc: 101 (+26)
  3. P-Nut: 91 (+46)
  4. Organic Potatoes: 84 (+26)
  5. hobbers: 79 (+19)
  6. Welsh Wonder: 77 (+22)
  7. VeevaVee: 71 (+16)
  8. altodevil: 70 (+25)
  9. Eboue: 69 (+26)
  10. Abizzz: 69 (+39)
Ideas (these are basically upgrades you can take that come in Administrative, Diplomatic and Military, using the currency generated (generally) by the skills of your ruler. I'll go into a bit more detail about these when I do country-by-country updates a bit later today, but they're one way of measuring how well you're doing that doesn't necessarily relate directly to your number of provinces or the size of your armies. If you're conquering a lot you'll probably use a lot of Administrative power on making the new provinces cores, so maybe won't have as much to spend on new ideas)

Everyone is at 21 except:

22: P-Nut
19: Walrus, Wing Attack Plan R
15: Dan (he got killed and brought back, I guess he forgot some stuff)

Most developed province You use Monarch Power to develop these. It gets more expensive to increase the higher it is.
  1. Henegouwn (SilentWitness): 51 (+13)
  2. Cagliari (AnotherLondonManc): 50 (+22)
  3. Ayrshire (Organic Potatoes): 50 (+3)
  4. Derby (altodevil): 46 (+25)
  5. Noamn (SilentWitness): 43 (+10)
  6. Metz (SilentWitness): 39 (+6)
  7. Roma (VeevaVee): 39 (+6)
  8. Auvergne (RedSky): 38 (+7)
  9. Morgannwg (Welsh Wonder): 37 (+27)
  10. Amsterdam (Kirk Duyt): 37 (+14)
Religions

Catholic: Organic Potatoes, BD, Crackers, Solius, altodevil, Welsh Wonder, Vidyoyo, Samid, Abizzz, P-Nut, VeevaVee, KirkDuyt, Eboue, Igor Drefljak, AnotherLondonManc, BootsyCollins, adexkola, SilentWitness, Andycoleno9
Protestant: Dr. Dwayne, PSV
Reformed: V.O., Dan
Sunni: Wing Attack Plan R, Walrus, Shakesey
Orthodox: hobbers, Salt Bailly, Tiber

Religious Map of Europe (click to expand)



Beyond Europe (click to expand) - I'll add more as you spread around the world. This map will be easier to read when you guys expand some more and start putting down your flags (and names).



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Shakesy

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Starting to feel like my empire is satisfied with where it is. Everyone around me is either allied, a bonafide super power, or @Shakesey

Nobody will invade my core provence with my ridiculous navy, and I seem to have lost the ambition I had early on.

Side note @nimic, for the next player analysis, could you include a prediction given your omnipresence and knowledge of them game? I'd be curious to know what you think will happen, and we can compare that with the end result
:lol: :lol:
 

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1472
1502
1531

NOTE: I am going to add the numbers for any colonies you have to your own numbers for Development, Army Size, Naval Size.

1565 (Click the picture to make it bigger - you can also open/download all the maps so far and easily compare the progress)




Lusatia is the Holy Roman Emperor (not one of you)



All of the following stats are Cafites-only.

Development (total value of provinces - I'm going to add any colonial nations you have to your total)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 699 (+272) <-- Note: with colonies included
  2. Wing Attack Plan R: 696 (+153)
  3. Solius: 683 (+266)
  4. Hobbers: 615 (+68)
  5. Eboue: 555 (+194)
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 525 (+81)
  7. adexkola: 522 (+178)
  8. Walrus: 470 (+102)
  9. Abizzz: 467 (+183)
  10. Tiber: 390 (+68)
Prestige (sort of a "current status" value, goes from -100 to 100)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 92
  2. Walrus: 74
  3. Samid: 64
  4. Solius: 62
  5. Wing Attack Plan R: 59
  6. Welsh Wonder: 52
  7. Eboue: 48
  8. adexkola: 47
  9. BD: 46
  10. AnotherLondonManc: 46
Power Projection (how much you've bullied (war, insults, embargo, etc) rivals. Up to 3 nations you've picked that are roughly evenly matched with you - goes from 0 to 100)
  1. BD: 82
  2. Solius: 71
  3. Abizzz: 66
  4. Organic Potatoes: 59
  5. Walrus: 58
  6. RedSky: 56
  7. Eboue: 47
  8. adexkola: 44
  9. AnotherLondonManc: 44
  10. BootsyCollins: 41
  11. hobbers: 41
  12. Samid: 41
Total Army size - I'm switching over to whole numbers, and adding colonies
  1. Solius: 155 000 (+59k)
  2. adexkola: 89 000 (+39k)
  3. Organic Potatoes: 87 000 (+40k) (with colonies)
  4. Eboue: 84 000 (+42k)
  5. Abizzz: 77 000 (+29k)
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 74 000 (+26)
  7. BD: 73 000 (+14k)
  8. hobbers: 63 000 (+13k)
  9. P-Nut: 62 000 (+28k)
  10. Wing Attack Plan R: 58 000 (-13k <-- 6 years into a war with Walrus)
Total Navy Size - I'm adding colonies
  1. AnotherLondonManc: 105 (+34)
  2. Solius: 104 (+52)
  3. Organic Potatoes: 75 (+14) (with colonies)
  4. altodevil: 61 (+22)
  5. Welsh Wonder: 59 (+18)
  6. VeevaVee: 58 (+13)
  7. hobbers: 58 (+13)
  8. Igor Drefljak: 57 (+14)
  9. Wing Attack Plan R: 51 (+13)
  10. BD: 50 (-2)
Total monthly income
  1. Solius: 152 (+65)
  2. AnotherLondonManc: 101 (+26)
  3. P-Nut: 91 (+46)
  4. Organic Potatoes: 84 (+26)
  5. hobbers: 79 (+19)
  6. Welsh Wonder: 77 (+22)
  7. VeevaVee: 71 (+16)
  8. altodevil: 70 (+25)
  9. Eboue: 69 (+26)
  10. Abizzz: 69 (+39)
Ideas (these are basically upgrades you can take that come in Administrative, Diplomatic and Military, using the currency generated (generally) by the skills of your ruler. I'll go into a bit more detail about these when I do country-by-country updates a bit later today, but they're one way of measuring how well you're doing that doesn't necessarily relate directly to your number of provinces or the size of your armies. If you're conquering a lot you'll probably use a lot of Administrative power on making the new provinces cores, so maybe won't have as much to spend on new ideas)

Everyone is at 21 except:

22: P-Nut
19: Walrus, Wing Attack Plan R
15: Dan (he got killed and brought back, I guess he forgot some stuff)

Most developed province You use Monarch Power to develop these. It gets more expensive to increase the higher it is.
  1. Henegouwn (SilentWitness): 51 (+13)
  2. Cagliari (AnotherLondonManc): 50 (+22)
  3. Ayrshire (Organic Potatoes): 50 (+3)
  4. Derby (altodevil): 46 (+25)
  5. Noamn (SilentWitness): 43 (+10)
  6. Metz (SilentWitness): 39 (+6)
  7. Roma (VeevaVee): 39 (+6)
  8. Auvergne (RedSky): 38 (+7)
  9. Morgannwg (Welsh Wonder): 37 (+27)
  10. Amsterdam (Kirk Duyt): 37 (+14)
Religions

Catholic: Organic Potatoes, BD, Crackers, Solius, altodevil, Welsh Wonder, Vidyoyo, Samid, Abizzz, P-Nut, VeevaVee, KirkDuyt, Eboue, Igor Drefljak, AnotherLondonManc, BootsyCollins, adexkola, SilentWitness, Andycoleno9
Protestant: Dr. Dwayne, PSV
Reformed: V.O., Dan
Sunni: Wing Attack Plan R, Walrus, Shakesey
Orthodox: hobbers, Salt Bailly, Tiber

Religious Map of Europe (click to expand)



Beyond Europe (click to expand) - I'll add more as you spread around the world. This map will be easier to read when you guys expand some more and start putting down your flags (and names).



Players no longer with us
  • Stobzilla
  • Grib
  • Denis79
Who's that in South Africa!? Please say me :drool:
 

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I'm finally building an army for some reason, and I'm full of ideas and money, surely something has to come of it eventually
 

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My king spends all money on himself.
@nimic do i have gold mine in Hungary?
Yep.

I'm finally building an army for some reason, and I'm full of ideas and money, surely something has to come of it eventually
Full of money is right. You're sitting on 6 402 gold. In comparison, @Andycoleno9 has 247 and @Wing Attack Plan R has 29 (he's in a war though, to be fair). That could build a lot of buildings or hire a lot of mercenaries. Or in other words, you're sitting on 70 months worth of income.
 

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Yep.



Full of money is right. You're sitting on 6 402 gold. In comparison, @Andycoleno9 has 247 and @Wing Attack Plan R has 29 (he's in a war though, to be fair). That could build a lot of buildings or hire a lot of mercenaries. Or in other words, you're sitting on 70 months worth of income.
Jesus, just spaff it all on mercenaries and let's take over the world
 

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Think my lads have been sleeping a bit. Hopefully the reformation will give us eastern ortho bros a chance at some land grabbing.
 

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I’m developing nicely and it looks like the aim of my people is just to survive until the end as we are. :lol:
 

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Nobody will invade my core provence with my ridiculous navy, and I seem to have lost the ambition I had early on.
Ambition unlocked. Not so great for @Shakesey, since Solius gave you guys military access through this lands. Though to be fair you have a mega fleet to ferry troops with anyway. Also @P-Nut gets to finally fight someone, it's been a while.

 

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@Eboue (top) and @RedSky (bottom) have made it to the New World. Not on their own, but either through map knowledge spreading naturally, or by purchasing some maps from Organic Potatoes. It's a start, though. (Apparently map knowledge spreads easier if the countries have good relations, and Eboue and Organic Potatoes like each other. Not sure how RedSky got in on the action, but he did.)

 

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Shakesy looking in trouble then? While PNuts busy with him now would be a good time for my boys to invade PNut. Or we can just keep drinking wine for the next 50 years.

Good to see I've finally had some ideas.

Eboue and me are real bros. :lol:
 

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@nimic if @Solius and I go to war, I'm gonna need minute-by-minute updates. I'd like to think that his animosity towards me is matched so that I'm not blindsided when it kicks off.

Is @RedSky still my ally or has he turncoated to the Spaniards? He must be miffed having got exactly zero gains from Solius' Iberian war.

This would be the biggest war of the game yet, no?
 

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@nimic if @Solius and I go to war, I'm gonna need minute-by-minute updates. I'd like to think that his animosity towards me is matched so that I'm not blindsided when it kicks off.

Is @RedSky still my ally or has he turncoated to the Spaniards?

This would be the biggest war of them game yet, no?
He's still your ally. Your allies are RedSky, P-Nut, VeevaVee, Organic Potatoes and Samid. You have so many allies.
 

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@nimic if @Solius and I go to war, I'm gonna need minute-by-minute updates. I'd like to think that his animosity towards me is matched so that I'm not blindsided when it kicks off.

Is @RedSky still my ally or has he turncoated to the Spaniards? He must be miffed having got exactly zero gains from Solius' Iberian war.

This would be the biggest war of the game yet, no?
I'm an ally to half of Europe. :lol: