Gaming 1836 - The Europa Universalis 4 Experiment (Hands-off) - Map & stats in second post - Final Map and Stats update - Timelapse video

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I'm curious. Are there any non-participants who are following this at all? It's quite niche I guess, might be hard to be at all engaged unless you've literally got your name on the map. Or?
Yeh, patiently waiting for the Solius vs Hobbers showdown, sometime in the 3rd millennium. My money is on Hobbers.
 

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I'm curious. Are there any non-participants who are following this at all? It's quite niche I guess, might be hard to be at all engaged unless you've literally got your name on the map. Or?
Yep, I've been following it. Saved the links to each of the European map updates and have enjoyed bouncing between them watching how things change.

This thread continues to tempt me to start playing again.
 

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Yep, I've been following it. Saved the links to each of the European map updates and have enjoyed bouncing between them watching how things change.

This thread continues to tempt me to start playing again.
I hadn't played EU4 for years when I started up again a few months ago, and that's actually what pushed me to do this. I'd thought about it before, but didn't know if it would work.

EU4 is still fun. I thought I was done with it, but I guess not.
 

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Central Europe after the last few wars. @P-Nut is still big, but now an even stupider shape. @V.O. got out of his personal union and managed to grab some territory in the process. @Solius let @RedSky send his tendrils further into Italy. @Abizzz and @Eboue brutalized @adexkola.



It's 1824, so 12 more years to go.
This is what I wanted in the 17th century. Better late than never I guess.

@adexkola don't be salty. We left you two perfectly good parts of your country. Until now.
 

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I think my kill count is at 3.5 so far. Grib, Denis, Tiber and almost Walrus.

Would be nice to add a couple more before the end.
 

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I'm curious. Are there any non-participants who are following this at all? It's quite niche I guess, might be hard to be at all engaged unless you've literally got your name on the map. Or?
Yep, top top work.
 

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Okay, 1836 is here! My plan is to do one last big stats and map update, with the normal stats except with everyone instead of just top 10. Then I might do some other kind of final update, summary, stats - we'll see. It's not all going to come today and I'm still working it out.

Thanks to everyone for participating, I'm quite happy with how it worked out for a first attempt. If only it didn't take me until the 7th stats update to realize they would be much easier to do if I put the game in windowed mode. Or even easier if I could be arsed to set up my old second monitor.
 

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Okay, 1836 is here! My plan is to do one last big stats and map update, with the normal stats except with everyone instead of just top 10. Then I might do some other kind of final update, summary, stats - we'll see. It's not all going to come today and I'm still working it out.

Thanks to everyone for participating, I'm quite happy with how it worked out for a first attempt. If only it didn't take me until the 7th stats update to realize they would be much easier to do if I put the game in windowed mode. Or even easier if I could be arsed to set up my old second monitor.
Thank you for this amazing work. Really loved following the updates and i got sweet butterflies in my stomach whenever i got a notification i had been tagged in this thread.
 

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This was awesome for a first run, wouldn't have known. Definitely would be cool in a 2nd run to have the AI Art implemented in some way if possible.
 

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What a journey, what a ride. feck @hobbers .

Next time I dont want to be stuck in the middle east!
 
1836 - Map and Stats (final)

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Final stats update

Okay, the end is here! We've finally reached 1836, after nearly 400 years of imperialism, colonialism and a surprising amount of royal marriages. This will be the last stats and maps update, but I have some other ideas for how to give a final update. Stay tuned for that.

For this update, I'll include everyone who is still alive.

1444 (start date) & country introductions
1472
1502 & country updates
1531
1565
1602 & country updates
1633
1668
1707 & country updates
1747
1795

1836 (end date)

FINAL MAP



Development map of Europe - greener is higher province development (value)



The Holy Roman Empire is dissolved



All of the following stats are Cafites-only.


Development (total value of provinces - colonies contribute 50%)
  1. 3557 - @hobbers
  2. 3397 - @Solius
  3. 2586 - @RedSky
  4. 2392 - @Eboue
  5. 2177 - @Abizzz
  6. 1818 - @altodevil
  7. 1693 - @BD
  8. 1169 - @BootsyCollins
  9. 1156 - @Samid
  10. 1153 - @Andycoleno9
  11. 1090 - @P-Nut
  12. 1039 - @Salt Bailly
  13. 1039 - @Wing Attack Plan R
  14. 956 - @V.O.
  15. 744 - @PSV
  16. 514 - @AnotherLondonManc
  17. 423 - @adexkola
  18. 247 - @Organic Potatoes (currently at war with his colony OP Mexico, which would add another 331 if retained)
  19. 143 - @Igor Drefljak
  20. 83 - @Walrus
  21. 40 - @VeevaVee
  22. 34 - @SilentWitness
  23. 31 - @Shakesey
  24. 15 - @KirkDuyt

Prestige (still struggling over failing to crush the revolution)
  1. 100 - Samid
  2. 90 - BD
  3. 69 - Solius
  4. 42 - RedSky
  5. 36 - Salt Bailly
  6. 23 - altodevil
  7. 5 - hobbers
  8. 3 - Walrus
  9. -4 - V.O.
  10. -21 - Shakesey
  11. -28 - Abizzz
  12. -30 - adexkola
  13. -32 - P-Nut
  14. -35 - Andycoleno9
  15. -43 - Wing Attack Plan R
  16. -51 - Eboue
  17. -56 - PSV
  18. -61 - VeevaVee
  19. -71 - BootsyCollins
  20. -85 - AnotherLondonManc
  21. -87 - Igor Drefljak
  22. -90 - KirkDuyt
  23. -95 - SilentWitness
  24. -100 - Organic Potatoes

Power Projection (how much you've bullied rival countries recently)
  1. 100 - Eboue
  2. 100 - altodevil
  3. 100 - Solius
  4. 83 - Abizzz
  5. 82 - Salt Bailly
  6. 80 - hobbers
  7. 47 - P-Nut
  8. 46 - BD
  9. 39 - AnotherLondonManc
  10. 24 - Wing Attack Plan R
  11. 24 - Samid
  12. 23 - PSV
  13. 18 - V.O.
  14. 9 - Walrus
  15. 7 - Andycoleno9
  16. 3 - KirkDuyt
  17. 0 - SilentWitness
  18. 0 - Shakesey
  19. 0 - adexkola
  20. 0 - BootsyCollins
  21. 0 - Igor Drefljak
  22. 0 - RedSky
  23. 0 - Organic Potatoes
  24. 0 - VeevaVee

Total Army size (with colonies)
  1. 947 000 - hobbers
  2. 767 000 - Solius
  3. 678 000 - RedSky (RedSky himself is 118k of this, he might be eternally grateful to Solius for his colonies never leaving)
  4. 482 000 - Abizzz
  5. 373 000 - Eboue
  6. 281 000 - altodevil
  7. 233 000 - P-Nut
  8. 199 000 - Salt Bailly
  9. 192 000 - BootsyCollins
  10. 185 000 - BD
  11. 182 000 - PSV
  12. 178 000 - Andycoleno9
  13. 144 000 - Samid
  14. 135 000 - Wing Attack Plan R
  15. 128 000 - V.O.
  16. 103 000 - adexkola
  17. 70 000 - AnotherLondonManc
  18. 35 000 - Organic Potatoes
  19. 22 000 - Walrus
  20. 15 000 - VeevaVee
  21. 12 000 - Igor Drefljak
  22. 11 000 - Shakesey
  23. 8 000 - SilentWitness
  24. 6 000 - KirkDuyt

Total Navy Size (with colonies)
  1. 434 - hobbers
  2. 426 - Solius
  3. 316 - altodevil
  4. 270 - RedSky
  5. 261 - Eboue
  6. 223 - AnotherLondonManc
  7. 111 - BD
  8. 102 - Wing Attack Plan R
  9. 101 - BootsyCollins
  10. 82 - P-Nut
  11. 79 - Samid
  12. 64 - Abizzz
  13. 63 - Andycoleno9
  14. 56 - PSV
  15. 45 - adexkola
  16. 16 - Organic Potatoes
  17. 16 - V.O.
  18. 8 - Igor Drefljak
  19. 6 - Shakesey
  20. 2 - KirkDuyt
  21. 0 - Walrus
  22. 0 - SilentWitness
  23. 0 - Salt Bailly
  24. 0 - VeevaVee

Total monthly income
  1. 1161 - hobbers
  2. 775 - altodevil
  3. 732 - Solius
  4. 683 - Eboue
  5. 464 - Abizzz
  6. 295 - BD
  7. 294 - Samid
  8. 244 - P-Nut
  9. 231 - Salt Bailly
  10. 213 - RedSky
  11. 204 - Andycoleno9
  12. 193 - V.O.
  13. 186 - Wing Attack Plan R
  14. 184 - PSV
  15. 177 - BootsyCollins
  16. 148 - adexkola
  17. 146 - AnotherLondonManc
  18. 24 - Igor Drefljak
  19. 23 - VeevaVee
  20. 21 - Organic Potatoes
  21. 19 - Walrus
  22. 13 - SilentWitness
  23. 12 - Shakesey
  24. 3 - KirkDuyt

Treasury size at end of game
  1. 308 140 - hobbers
  2. 176 049 - altodevil
  3. 107 060 - Eboue
  4. 70 598 - Solius
  5. 43 731 - Salt Bailly
  6. 33 987 - V.O.
  7. 29 413 - Abizzz
  8. 10 891 - P-Nut
  9. 8 463 - PSV
  10. 7 262 - VeevaVee
  11. 2 885 - Shakesey
  12. 2 063 - Andycoleno9
  13. 1 582 - SilentWitness
  14. 747 - Samid
  15. 714 - KirkDuyt
  16. 552 - BootsyCollins
  17. 479 - RedSky
  18. 464 - BD
  19. 417 - adexkola
  20. 146 - Walrus
  21. 118 - AnotherLondonManc
  22. 114 - Igor Drefljak
  23. 48 - Wing Attack Plan R
  24. 43 - Organic Potatoes

Most developed province (PSV and ALM lost Kraków and Cagliari respectively right at the end, which would have been 1st and 4th otherwise)
  1. 77 - Lublin (Samid)
  2. 72 - Derby (altodevil)
  3. 69 - Ayrshire (altodevil)
  4. 69 - Auvergne (RedSky)
  5. 68 - Cambrésis (Eboue)
  6. 67 - Asturias (Solius)
  7. 67 - Metz (Eboue)
  8. 67 - Hainaut (Eboue)
  9. 66 - Lwow (hobbers)
  10. 66 - Namur (Eboue)
  11. 66 - Leipzig (Abizzz)

Every country's best province
  1. 77 - Lublin - Samid
  2. 72 - Derby - altodevil
  3. 69 - Auvergne - RedSky
  4. 68 - Cambrésis - Eboue
  5. 67 - Asturias - Solius
  6. 66 - Lwow - hobbers
  7. 66 - Leipzig - Abizzz
  8. 61 - Ginevra - P-Nut
  9. 51 - Schmodei - Andycoleno9
  10. 49 - Pate - BD
  11. 49 - Moskva - Salt Bailly
  12. 49 - Warszawa - PSV
  13. 47 - Regensburg - V.O.
  14. 40 - Adana - AnotherLondonManc
  15. 40 - Perugia - VeevaVee
  16. 38 - Hanover - adexkola
  17. 35 - Opplanda - Igor Drefljak
  18. 34 - Agdesiden - BootsyCollins
  19. 34 - Samawat - Walrus
  20. 34 - Qahirah - Wing Attack Plan R
  21. 34 - Lotharingen - SilentWitness
  22. 31 - St. Helena - Shakesey
  23. 31 - Bermuda - Organic Potatoes
  24. 7 - Essequibo - KirkDuyt

Army losses (battles + attrition) <- NOT including colonies
  1. 6 805 000 - hobbers
  2. 6 616 000 - Solius
  3. 4 536 000 - Abizzz
  4. 4 437 000 - Eboue
  5. 4 361 000 - P-Nut
  6. 3 346 000 - AnotherLondonManc
  7. 3 326 000 - BootsyCollins
  8. 2 969 000 - adexkola
  9. 2 777 000 - BD
  10. 2 387 000 - Samid
  11. 2 348 000 - altodevil
  12. 2 173 000 - RedSky
  13. 2 050 000 - PSV
  14. 2 042 000 - Wing Attack Plan R
  15. 2 033 000 - Organic Potatoes
  16. 1 987 000 - Andycoleno9
  17. 1 976 000 - Salt Bailly
  18. 1 334 000 - V.O.
  19. 1 078 000 - SilentWitness
  20. 1 005 000 - VeevaVee
  21. 966 000 - Walrus
  22. 651 000 - KirkDuyt
  23. 482 000 - Igor Drefljak
  24. 415 000 - Shakesey

Naval losses <- NOT including colonies
  1. 653 - Solius
  2. 481 - AnotherLondonManc
  3. 476 - Organic Potatoes
  4. 397 - altodevil
  5. 383 - Eboue
  6. 375 - adexkola
  7. 331 - P-Nut
  8. 325 - RedSky
  9. 300 - BD
  10. 222 - Andycoleno9
  11. 208 - Wing Attack Plan R
  12. 202 - hobbers
  13. 199 - BootsyCollins
  14. 189 - VeevaVee
  15. 159 - Igor Drefljak
  16. 156 - KirkDuyt
  17. 119 - Samid
  18. 112 - Abizzz
  19. 111 - SilentWitness
  20. 103 - Walrus
  21. 72 - Shakesey
  22. 37 - PSV
  23. 0 - Salt Bailly
  24. 0 - V.O.

Holy Roman Emperors
  1. 6 (144 years) - KirkDuyt
  2. 3 (94 years) - adexkola
  3. 1 (3 years) - Andycoleno9

Surviving dynasties

de Abizzz: in altodevil and Abizzz
Andycoleno9: in Andycoleno9
hobbers: in Salt Bailly (and the minor country of Wolgast)
Samid: in Samid
Eboue: in Organic Potatoes
Wing Attack Plan R: in Wing Attack Plan R


Religions (changes in bold)

Catholic: Organic Potatoes, BD, Solius, altodevil, Samid, Eboue, Igor Drefljak, AnotherLondonManc, BootsyCollins, KirkDuyt
Protestant: PSV, Andycoleno9, adexkola, VeevaVee
Reformed: V.O., Abizzz
Sunni: Wing Attack Plan R, Walrus, Shakesey, SilentWitness
Orthodox: hobbers, Salt Bailly, P-Nut

Religious Map of Europe (click to expand)



Beyond Europe (click!)





The World



Players no longer with us (9)
  • Stobzilla: Squeezed between Solius, BD and AnotherLondonManc
  • Grib: Conquered by hobbers (with help from Denis79)
  • Denis79: Conquered by hobbers
  • Dan x3: Squeezed out by Dr. Dwayne, PSV, Abizzz, Andycoleno9, et. al - returned and was taken out three times or more
  • Vidyoyo x2: Taken out mainly by Igor Drefljak and BootsyCollins
  • Dr. Dwayne: Taken out mainly by adexkola, Abizzz, PSV
  • Welsh Wonder: Squeezed between altodevil and Organic Potatoes
  • Crackers: Ganged up on by Solius, BD and RedSky at least 3-4 times, then finished in exile by SilentWitness
  • Tiber: inherited by hobbers
 

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Well done @nimic

I appreciate how much of a time investment it is to run these experiments.
Cheers! It was a lot of work, but it somehow felt like less work than the FM Experiments despite this happening over a much shorter timespan. It was probably because the constant small updates. I basically forced people to pay attention, and I didn't have to sit on information for a week while I prepared "the big update".

It was an interesting experience (that isn't completely done, I still have to try something with the playback feature). I reckon I'll do something similar at some point in the future (and anyone else is free to steal the idea, of course).
 

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I survived! What a weak finish after an alright start. How did I end up on 0 navy :lol:

At least I was somehow fairly rich.

Do I have a few spots of land dotted around there?

Good work @nimic