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KirkDuyt (Gerrit Theodoli) is the Holy Roman Emperor



All of the following stats are Cafites-only.

Development (total value of provinces - I am still going to do only 50% of the colonies, but to make it easier for me to write these I'm just going to put it as a joint value. I'm a flip flopper)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 1317 (+281)
  2. Solius: 963 (+119)
  3. BootsyCollins: 900 (+345)
  4. AnotherLondonManc: 890 (+198)
  5. Wing Attack Plan R: 888 (+50)
  6. RedSky: 834 (+270)
  7. hobbers: 793 (+97)
  8. adexkola: 754 (-16)
  9. BD: 714 (+197)
  10. Eboue: 687 (-30)
Prestige (sort of a "current status" value, goes from -100 to 100)
  1. BD: 96
  2. Solius: 86
  3. altodevil: 83
  4. BootsyCollins: 83
  5. Samid: 82
  6. Organic Potatoes: 72
  7. Salt Bailly: 69
  8. RedSky: 65
  9. P-Nut: 52
  10. AnotherLondonManc: 49
Power Projection (how much you've bullied (war, insults, embargo, etc) rivals. Up to 3 nations you've picked that are roughly evenly matched with you - goes from 0 to 100)
  1. SilentWitness: 81
  2. Organic Potatoes: 67
  3. RedSky: 66
  4. Solius: 64
  5. Wing Attack Plan R: 55
  6. hobbers: 50
  7. adexkola: 46
  8. KirkDyut: 46
  9. BootsyCollins: 45
  10. BD: 45
Total Army size <-- This is not very long after the Religious War, so numbers might not have made it back up)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 230 000 (+92k) (with colonies)
  2. Solius: 210 000 (+52k)
  3. RedSky: 123 000 (+49k) (with colonies)
  4. hobbers: 116 000 (+43k)
  5. adexkola: 91 000 (+2k)
  6. BD: 104 000 (+23k)
  7. Eboue: 88 000 (+7k)
  8. Abizzz: 74 000 (+1k)
  9. Wing Attack Plan R: 70 000
  10. P-Nut: 65 000
Total Navy Size - I'm adding colonies (and this is the last time I add the disclaimer "with colonies", since next time a lot of you will have them)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 182 (+60) (with colonies)
  2. Solius: 160 (+13)
  3. RedSky: 120 (+72) (with colonies)
  4. AnotherLondonManc: 81 (-42)
  5. BD: 72 (-)
  6. hobbers: 71 (+8)
  7. Wing Attack Plan R: 67
  8. VeevaVee: 63 (+1)
  9. altodevil: 61 (-3)
  10. adexkola: 57 (+7)
Total monthly income
  1. Solius: 229 (+48)
  2. Organic Potatoes: 138 (+63)
  3. hobbers: 132 (+37)
  4. BD: 130 (+40)
  5. AnotherLondonManc: 125 (+34)
  6. KirkDuyt: 109 (+35)
  7. Abizzz: 103 (+31)
  8. BootsyCollins: 100 (+38)
  9. P-Nut: 100 (+12)
  10. Wing Attack Plan R: 95 (+41)
Ideas (these are basically upgrades you can take that come in Administrative, Diplomatic and Military, using the currency generated (generally) by the skills of your ruler. I'll go into a bit more detail about these when I do country-by-country updates a bit later today, but they're one way of measuring how well you're doing that doesn't necessarily relate directly to your number of provinces or the size of your armies. If you're conquering a lot you'll probably use a lot of Administrative power on making the new provinces cores, so maybe won't have as much to spend on new ideas)

35: Welsh Wonder, Solius
34: SilentWitness, Eboue, P-Nut
33: AnotherLondonManc, PSV

Most developed province You use Monarch Power to develop these. It gets more expensive to increase the higher it is.
  1. Henegouwn (SilentWitness): 56 (+5)
  2. Auvergne (RedSky): 55 (+17)
  3. Cagliari (AnotherLondonManc): 52 (-)
  4. Ayrshire (Organic Potatoes): 52 (-)
  5. Metz (SilentWitness): 51 (+4)
  6. Noamn (SilentWitness): 49 (+2)
  7. Derby (altodevil): 49 (+3)
  8. Chester (altodevil): 48 (+4)
  9. Asturias (Solius): 47 (-)
  10. Leipzig (Abizzz): 43 (+5)
Army losses (battles + attrition) <- NOT including colonies
  1. Solius: 1 220 000
  2. adexkola: 821 000
  3. Wing Attack Plan R: 759 000
  4. Walrus: 694 000
  5. Abizzz: 621 000
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 588 000
  7. BD: 562 000
  8. hobbers: 554 000
  9. Eboue: 553 000
  10. Organic Potatoes: 530 000
Naval losses <- NOT including colonies
  1. altodevil: 176
  2. Welsh Wonder: 171
  3. Organic Potatoes: 126
  4. Igor Drefljak: 98
  5. hobbers: 89
  6. Eboue: 84
  7. KirkDuyt: 81
  8. Walrus: 79
  9. Solius: 74
  10. Shakesey: 72

Religions (changes in bold)

Catholic: Organic Potatoes, BD, Crackers, Solius, altodevil, Welsh Wonder, Samid, P-Nut, VeevaVee, KirkDuyt, Eboue, Igor Drefljak, AnotherLondonManc, BootsyCollins
Protestant: PSV, Andycoleno9, adexkola
Reformed: V.O., Abizzz, SilentWitness
Sunni: Wing Attack Plan R, Walrus, Shakesey
Orthodox: hobbers, Salt Bailly, Tiber

Religious Map of Europe (click to expand)



Beyond Europe (click!)





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P-Nut

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I thought the 30 year war might finally change things for me, instead I go backwards and somehow lose even more provinces.
 

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Well I’m fecked. Far too far behind the big boys now.
 

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ALM needs a firm smack on the nose for his recent behaviour. Lost half his fleet, time to take Crete and secure half the Med.
 

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Hmm was hoping to get a bit more out of that. Hopefully integrating all those smaller countries that make mine into a patchwork won't take forever now.

Enjoying these updates, thanks again @nimic for running this. Have a safe trip and looking forward to the end of the week to see how all of it pans out.
 

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ALM needs a firm smack on the nose for his recent behaviour. Lost half his fleet, time to take Crete and secure half the Med.
Water under the bridge, buddy. A progressive nation looks forward, not back.

I lost my mighty, beloved navy, you lost a teensy bit of useless land. I say equals pequals.

Friends?
 

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KirkDuyt (Gerrit Theodoli) is the Holy Roman Emperor



All of the following stats are Cafites-only.

Development (total value of provinces - I am still going to do only 50% of the colonies, but to make it easier for me to write these I'm just going to put it as a joint value. I'm a flip flopper)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 1317 (+281)
  2. Solius: 963 (+119)
  3. BootsyCollins: 900 (+345)
  4. AnotherLondonManc: 890 (+198)
  5. Wing Attack Plan R: 888 (+50)
  6. RedSky: 834 (+270)
  7. hobbers: 793 (+97)
  8. adexkola: 754 (-16)
  9. BD: 714 (+197)
  10. Eboue: 687 (-30)
Prestige (sort of a "current status" value, goes from -100 to 100)
  1. BD: 96
  2. Solius: 86
  3. altodevil: 83
  4. BootsyCollins: 83
  5. Samid: 82
  6. Organic Potatoes: 72
  7. Salt Bailly: 69
  8. RedSky: 65
  9. P-Nut: 52
  10. AnotherLondonManc: 49
Power Projection (how much you've bullied (war, insults, embargo, etc) rivals. Up to 3 nations you've picked that are roughly evenly matched with you - goes from 0 to 100)
  1. SilentWitness: 81
  2. Organic Potatoes: 67
  3. RedSky: 66
  4. Solius: 64
  5. Wing Attack Plan R: 55
  6. hobbers: 50
  7. adexkola: 46
  8. KirkDyut: 46
  9. BootsyCollins: 45
  10. BD: 45
Total Army size <-- This is not very long after the Religious War, so numbers might not have made it back up)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 230 000 (+92k) (with colonies)
  2. Solius: 210 000 (+52k)
  3. RedSky: 123 000 (+49k) (with colonies)
  4. hobbers: 116 000 (+43k)
  5. adexkola: 91 000 (+2k)
  6. BD: 104 000 (+23k)
  7. Eboue: 88 000 (+7k)
  8. Abizzz: 74 000 (+1k)
  9. Wing Attack Plan R: 70 000
  10. P-Nut: 65 000
Total Navy Size - I'm adding colonies (and this is the last time I add the disclaimer "with colonies", since next time a lot of you will have them)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 182 (+60) (with colonies)
  2. Solius: 160 (+13)
  3. RedSky: 120 (+72) (with colonies)
  4. AnotherLondonManc: 81 (-42)
  5. BD: 72 (-)
  6. hobbers: 71 (+8)
  7. Wing Attack Plan R: 67
  8. VeevaVee: 63 (+1)
  9. altodevil: 61 (-3)
  10. adexkola: 57 (+7)
Total monthly income
  1. Solius: 229 (+48)
  2. Organic Potatoes: 138 (+63)
  3. hobbers: 132 (+37)
  4. BD: 130 (+40)
  5. AnotherLondonManc: 125 (+34)
  6. KirkDuyt: 109 (+35)
  7. Abizzz: 103 (+31)
  8. BootsyCollins: 100 (+38)
  9. P-Nut: 100 (+12)
  10. Wing Attack Plan R: 95 (+41)
Ideas (these are basically upgrades you can take that come in Administrative, Diplomatic and Military, using the currency generated (generally) by the skills of your ruler. I'll go into a bit more detail about these when I do country-by-country updates a bit later today, but they're one way of measuring how well you're doing that doesn't necessarily relate directly to your number of provinces or the size of your armies. If you're conquering a lot you'll probably use a lot of Administrative power on making the new provinces cores, so maybe won't have as much to spend on new ideas)

35: Welsh Wonder, Solius
34: SilentWitness, Eboue, P-Nut
33: AnotherLondonManc, PSV

Most developed province You use Monarch Power to develop these. It gets more expensive to increase the higher it is.
  1. Henegouwn (SilentWitness): 56 (+5)
  2. Auvergne (RedSky): 55 (+17)
  3. Cagliari (AnotherLondonManc): 52 (-)
  4. Ayrshire (Organic Potatoes): 52 (-)
  5. Metz (SilentWitness): 51 (+4)
  6. Noamn (SilentWitness): 49 (+2)
  7. Derby (altodevil): 49 (+3)
  8. Chester (altodevil): 48 (+4)
  9. Asturias (Solius): 47 (-)
  10. Leipzig (Abizzz): 43 (+5)
Army losses (battles + attrition) <- NOT including colonies
  1. Solius: 1 220 000
  2. adexkola: 821 000
  3. Wing Attack Plan R: 759 000
  4. Walrus: 694 000
  5. Abizzz: 621 000
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 588 000
  7. BD: 562 000
  8. hobbers: 554 000
  9. Eboue: 553 000
  10. Organic Potatoes: 530 000
Naval losses <- NOT including colonies
  1. altodevil: 176
  2. Welsh Wonder: 171
  3. Organic Potatoes: 126
  4. Igor Drefljak: 98
  5. hobbers: 89
  6. Eboue: 84
  7. KirkDuyt: 81
  8. Walrus: 79
  9. Solius: 74
  10. Shakesey: 72

Religions (changes in bold)

Catholic: Organic Potatoes, BD, Crackers, Solius, altodevil, Welsh Wonder, Samid, P-Nut, VeevaVee, KirkDuyt, Eboue, Igor Drefljak, AnotherLondonManc, BootsyCollins
Protestant: PSV, Andycoleno9, adexkola
Reformed: V.O., Abizzz, SilentWitness
Sunni: Wing Attack Plan R, Walrus, Shakesey
Orthodox: hobbers, Salt Bailly, Tiber

Religious Map of Europe (click to expand)



Beyond Europe (click!)





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I love how my empire has grown enough to have unlocked the 'larger text font' idea
 

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Respect to Chester for joining Derby and Kilmarnock in the top 10 cities. :lol:
 

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The sun, oh, the sun! It’s playing tricks on me. Where does it hide? Behind the sea? Or is it swallowed by a giant space camel? My coconuts...they chatter, incessant chatter. Plotting, always plotting. And the crabs! Conspiring with those treacherous parrots. I can feel it!

S.
 

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Notes from St H,

The sun, oh, the sun! It’s playing tricks on me. Where does it hide? Behind the sea? Or is it swallowed by a giant space camel? My coconuts...they chatter, incessant chatter. Plotting, always plotting. And the crabs! Conspiring with those treacherous parrots. I can feel it!

S.
If you play as Gotland, they have a new mission tree that basically revolves around the all emigrating to Bermuda.
 

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Yeah, this thread inspired me to play as, yup, Morocco. In my game Aragon is actually busy conquering Spain! Haven't seen this happen often.
I literally never saw that. Iberian wedding event always screws that.

Morocco is fun. Hit Granada soon as possible, ally Turks and crash Spain. Easy peasy :lol:
 
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Are there any mobile games similar to this that you can play on mobile? I've been itching for something like this for a long time, without knowing how to define the genre
 

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Are there any mobile games similar to this that you can play on mobile? I've been itching for something like this for a long time, without knowing how to define the genre
Strategy games for mobile phones are shit. Because they are P2P mostly.
 

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Strategy games for mobile phones are shit. Because they are P2P mostly.
Yeah that's all I've ever encountered, wondered if anyone that plays this had one that they actually enjoy on mobile, as I don't have a laptop at present and it seems excessive to buy one just to play games when I hardly get a spare minute at home.
 

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My last few playthroughs on EU4 I didnt finish, might have to go back to them. Had an incredible Hungary run going, and had just ragequit my Inca run after all of the European great powers declared simultaneous wars on me. Bah.
 

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My last few playthroughs on EU4 I didnt finish, might have to go back to them. Had an incredible Hungary run going, and had just ragequit my Inca run after all of the European great powers declared simultaneous wars on me. Bah.
Sounds like you're a glutton for punishment like me. Hungary is one of my favourite playthroughs. It's always a struggle surrounded by Poland, Austria and the Ottomans.

I did the Sun God achieve as Inca, I remember in one run having good progress, only to notice I needed (and hadn't) colonised the Falklands before the Europeans got there. My most brutal achieve run was probably African Power as Kongo.. I have nightmares about all the restarts.
 

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Sounds like you're a glutton for punishment like me. Hungary is one of my favourite playthroughs. It's always a struggle surrounded by Poland, Austria and the Ottomans.

I did the Sun God achieve as Inca, I remember in one run having good progress, only to notice I needed (and hadn't) colonised the Falklands before the Europeans got there. My most brutal achieve run was probably African Power as Kongo.. I have nightmares about all the restarts.
Im an achievement hunter, although I usually get bored by the lategame - hate having to micromanage about 50 individual stacks and navies. Same reason probably that I have never done a World Conquest.

Some of my more interesting recent runs were doing an Orleans => France, Joan of Arc playthrough (with the special Theocratic government form, 'The Militant Order of Saint Joan'), and trying unsuccessfully on two occasions to do a tall Korea run - unsuccessful because it was simply too damn easy to conquer China, and doing a Norse Norway (North Sea Empire) run.

Hungary can be an absolute powerhouse in a players hands. You can beat back the Ottomans early and basically get missions for PUs with everyone nearby.
 

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Good news @PSV! You're free of the @Salt Bailly yoke. Though you did choose to ally him, so maybe it was amicable.



Bad news, @Walrus! @hobbers is angry about losing to @AnotherLondonManc (who also just beat you), so now he's coming for your stuff. You're also at war with @BootsyCollins because he is trying to nibble on your ally, Nogai. Not sure why the Timurids aren't in it; they might have ditched you.