2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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Biden and Sanders are ether at, or have exceeded the average life expectancy in the US and are seeking 8 years in an incredibly stressful job. Like Raoul said, probably that he's young and 'fresh' which some voters find appealing along with the first gay president thing and his military service that he can lean on - although like you said, he is boring and vanilla as feck who says a whole lot about nothing. I was pretty fond of him right at the beginning but this thread has turned me into a cynic.
To be fair, if you can run the world’s major casinos you should be able to count a few votes.
nah, i di a count and it's even trending to pete**. there's a big dump from a big countty which favours bernie about to come, but tons of small places for pete.
basically the opposite of what was happening in 2016.
**no, missed a big bernie county with 40 precincts.. both have about 250 precints left in places they're leading.
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Fair enough, if you want a young guy he makes sense. But I see so much talk about "it has to be someone who can beat Trump" and that doesn't seem comptible with Pete. We can all imagine it, Trump will eat him alive in debate and crap-throwing online.
The Dems have no interest in winning in Nov.. clearly trying to feck over their own support base.
Its clear with the manufactured Iowa crisis, the Democratic Party is more concerned with pleasing the corporate sponsors than beating Trump.
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Based on the 62% vote total Bernie and Buttchug have 10 Delegates each.
err Biden Zero.
Based on the 62% vote total Bernie and Buttchug have 10 Delegates each.
err Biden Zero.
It is a disease. People who can't look beyond their own whiteness and have zero self-awareness as to how much damage it inflicts.
I agree, I wouldn't vote him either. But if you look at the average life expectancy then the big 3 don't fare so well. Sanders would drop dead at any second, Biden immediately behind him and Warren would die at the end of her term. Sanders just had a heart attack and we're already discussing Biden and Trump potentially having dementia with Trump also being 73.
Obviously these guys have amazing health care, but still. For some people it's not hard to imagine that they are thinking about the stress of the role and the toll it takes on you and wanting a younger person in the role.
I want Bernie to win, but I can see why some people might think differently and that it would be too much. If I set my like for Bernie aside, I do find it weird that America keeps putting forth candidates to lead their country that are at the end of their life and are more likely to be/prone to suffering from several mentally debilitating conditions.
Then you have the democrats who won't touch Sanders because 'socialism' and the other dems that won't vote Biden because he's a creep, and don't like Warren over the Native American thing, maybe it's easier to vote for vanilla for them? Even if that vanilla is just an empty suit.
In the end it is about policies.
Bernie can trust Nina Turner to carry on his policies.
Biden will be willing to let a Republican work with....Republicans.
Bernie can trust Nina Turner to carry on his policies.
Biden will be willing to let a Republican work with....Republicans.
Trump landslide incoming:
Insulin pricing in the spotlight for State of the Union
https://www.politico.com/newsletter...n-the-spotlight-for-state-of-the-union-488232
Insulin pricing in the spotlight for State of the Union
https://www.politico.com/newsletter...n-the-spotlight-for-state-of-the-union-488232
Buttchug had no big policy but just ran as a centrist. What happened to the policies then?
OH just shut up with your everything is doomed ffs
At least Biden should retire now
A lot of Americans don’t care about policies. Identity politics is in vogue for a lot of people.
I have never seen such corruption in my life and I grew up around the corner from Bertie Ahern
Wow, Biden is finished
Great news!
Great news!
Sanders is proving identity politics are fading.
Its his best quality imo. Ideas should always be privileged over identity.
I believe this happened because of desperate need (Health Care)...and fears (Climate Change).
Unless immediate action is taken, these needs and feelings will increase.
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Others will take up the banner too.
he is proving there is an appetite for substantive policy. For many in the Democratic Party who hate him however, their reasons are rooted in identity politics.
Yes. It is why he is as popular as he is. It is highly commendable.
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Pete doing so well actually helps Sanders even more.
He is draining votes from Centrists candidates, while Sanders is taking votes away from Warren.
There are 17 Delegates left.
Biden may end up with close to none.
I believe this is what the hold up was about.
There is no path forward for Pete but Biden needs to win next two.
Seems unlikely.
He is draining votes from Centrists candidates, while Sanders is taking votes away from Warren.
There are 17 Delegates left.
Biden may end up with close to none.
I believe this is what the hold up was about.
There is no path forward for Pete but Biden needs to win next two.
Seems unlikely.
The younger people are fast moving away from the old identity politics tactics.
Social Media is spreading real issues.
In the long run identity politics will simply fade away.
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Sanders leading in 20 counties with highest attendee to delegate ratio.
Buttchug leading in 20 counties with lowest attendee to delegate ratio.
Basically, they electoral college’d the caucus.
Trumpism had majority opposition in the primary until mid April I think. Biden's the only one who could easily have united the moderate vote early and that looks impossible after his Iowa results.
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Old people sucked.
Like Corbyn? I'm old and it's bleeding obvious that 70+ is too old to do a job like running a country for years to come. What their supporters are thinking I do not know.
Americans love voting for old people.
Plonkers. Although Obama and Clinton were youngish, and Johnson and Kennedy before them not as old as the likes of Biden and Sanders. I hadn't really thought about it before but maybe Republicans like old people more? I don't know much about US politics, could easily be wrong. In any event there should be a maximum age limit for candidates as far as I can see.
Biden will lose hard in NH, so it’s really down to whether he can hold off Bernie in Nevada and SC. It’d be a miracle if Joe didn’t win SC, but if it’s competitive then he’s likely fecked long term.
On the Dem side, Biden and Bernie are national leaders, Warren is 3rd. Bernie gets overwhelming youth support. Pete's support skews heavily old.
On the GOP side, they recently chose their 2 best presidents ever, and came up with 2 senile people in Reagan and Trump.
I'm very tempted to almost completely tune out the primaries for a very simple reason: 85% of Americans don't give a single feck what goes on in them. If they did - Trump would have never made it through them, and I still believe that.
90% of people don't pay attention to anything that distracts from their narrow interests in life - and perhaps I envy that.
Take the superbowl halftime show for example. You wouldn't believe how many people had no idea the flag that was front and center was Puerto Rico' s. In fact - several thought it was just a variation of the US flag (I guess that's sorts true?). Still that should tell you something. And many or most of those same people don't have a clue why they even displayed the flag. Not to mention any other details of protest shown during it. The biggest thing people seemed to have gotten out of that is "how beautiful" Demi Lovato sang the national anthem. Again, make of that what you will.
90% of people don't pay attention to anything that distracts from their narrow interests in life - and perhaps I envy that.
Take the superbowl halftime show for example. You wouldn't believe how many people had no idea the flag that was front and center was Puerto Rico' s. In fact - several thought it was just a variation of the US flag (I guess that's sorts true?). Still that should tell you something. And many or most of those same people don't have a clue why they even displayed the flag. Not to mention any other details of protest shown during it. The biggest thing people seemed to have gotten out of that is "how beautiful" Demi Lovato sang the national anthem. Again, make of that what you will.
I saw the word Buttchug so many times that I had to Google it's origins. Glad I did. 
Conspiracy theorists should stop, Bernie really contaminates the party with these undesirables
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This could be just what the States needs after 4 years of Trump madness!
Where the heck are the rest of the precinct numbers.
there's a headline in place, the rest can wait
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