Crazy. What happened to Bayern's famed long-term perspective?
Ancelotti Sacked
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
If that's the case I think the timing of the sacking is a bit strange. Bayern are usually very efficient with these types of things so be interesting to see what your plan is going forward.
Surprising decision, still far too early to sack him, imagine Moyes with them, he would be sacked in September/October too
Not there anymore. They are also changing their manager and style depending on who is available in the market. They have lost their way a bit recently
Seems a bit mad, they are only three points off the top in the league. I mean the caf were calling for his head after the drubbing but didn't expect it to actually happen.
What happened to it? Pep left by his own will, we looked for the next best available manager, got him, didn't work out. Next.
At this stage there is really not much of a different solution. Ancelotti has lost all hold within the club, players and board.
Doesn't really seem particularly sensible to sack a manager a couple of games into the season. Makes you wonder what on earth has been going on behind the scenes.
Lack of respect for a legend of the game, ay Bayern?
But I thought Pep was only good because of having all the best players? It seems like, amazingly, tactics and training methods do have some sort of effect.
Too late. Also, probably not a good enough club for him.
If they could entice him, he'd be a great appointment. They'd probably allow him to smoke around the training area too. But could he endure the dysfunctional board?
They'll get Nagelsmann. Think about it: doesn't his name sound really good? Say it with me now. Nagelsmann. Nagelsmann.
Is Heynecks 100% retired or would he come back for until season end? Brilliant manager.
Heynckes retired didn't he?
Regardless it's not like he had much left in the tank and Pep's stock was at an all time high .
Give it Giggsy till the end of reason
So who now would replace Carlo? Who would the Bayern fans prefer?
Posted this in two different threads, not sure which one's the right one for this post.
Posted this in two different threads, not sure which one's the right one for this post.
Don't know the ins and outs, admittedly. But from the outside, it does seem a little premature, given the guy's pedigree. You reckon he wouldn't have been able to retrieve the situation?
Ridiculous decision. Every top club needs to win every game and competition they're in it seems nowadays...
Unbelievable and shocking.
I would blame their smart ass entitled transfer policy and people sitting at the top thinking they are smarter than the rest of the world more than Ancelotti.
Honestly, I'm having trouble pronouncing it. Drop the s and you have a winner.
We're on a downward slope pretty much since the beginning of his stay, but initially he at least seemed to handle the players really well. Now it's all but obvious that large parts of the team are discontent with his coaching and his squad selection, and the latter goes for the fans as well. On the pitch there's stagnation or regress in all departments, especially our defending has gone to shit, and not due to individual errors or shortcomings, but due to lack of concept.
We're 9 games into the season and Bayern are a team that doesn't need to be peaking until March. It's not like they'll have a great immediate substitute either so I don't get this, they should give him until the end of the season to turn things around.
What this guy said.
Something going on behind the scenes.
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The Arsenal board and Wenger should have a serious discussion with Ancelotti regarding next season. Obviously depends if he'd even be interested in the Arsenal job but it seems like a good opportunity for Arsenal to me and they obviously don't need to announce anything this early in the season.
FC Hollywood?!
This is how clubs should behave at this level imo, there is no point in allowing the rot to spread any further like we did with Moyes and LVG believing things will turn out for the better with seasons worth millions of pounds being written off. Much as we criticize Madrid for rush decisions their trophy cabinet says it works!
Pep had younger, better players at his disposal. Lahm was a huge player for him and a huge loss now
People who call this rash or hysterical management have no clue imho.
Once you realize it doesn't work out it's only sensible to make a cut and start over into another direction.
People call Bayern moronic to sack him when he's only three points away from the top of the league, I call it smarter than waiting for Ancelotti to drop out of the title race and the domestic cup (match in Leipzig coming up for them) before sacking him.
The results weren't good, the style was deteriorating and he seemed to have lost the dressing room as well. What kind of miracle should they have waited for?
Once you realize it doesn't work out it's only sensible to make a cut and start over into another direction.
People call Bayern moronic to sack him when he's only three points away from the top of the league, I call it smarter than waiting for Ancelotti to drop out of the title race and the domestic cup (match in Leipzig coming up for them) before sacking him.
The results weren't good, the style was deteriorating and he seemed to have lost the dressing room as well. What kind of miracle should they have waited for?
Yeah, that's how I feel as well.
ffsI know this is modern age and seems boards can feck up as much as they want, not a single head would roll in their case but getting really sick and tired of this "players arent happy with X manager methods" bullshit. Cant wait for the moment when player power peaks and everything goes to shit, maybe then things might reset and managers become alphas again.
Reminds me of the Gerrard thread.
PSG stuffed Neymar and Messi and et al in Paris last year and yet Barca did not sack their manager. Yes Barca's win in Nou Camp was a travesty but losing 4-0 to PSG is no shame without their best keeper. But Bayern has an aging squad. Now they will raid Dortmund again.
You've lost the plot.
wow didn't expect that. Feel bad for Ancelotti.
@Balu Thoughts on the sacking?
He's a class manager but this is a bit deserved tbh, however his pedigree is still so high that he'll land another big job soon.