[DWelbz19]

Shocking isn't it? If he does really become one here, he should look to leave at the end of the season. He's too good a player to be a squad player here.

Don't say that! You're overrating him!!

 

[bosnian_red]

A shame. One of the few players who looks to take risks with his passing, isn't afraid to get stuck in and has a goal in him from midfield and he's just a squad player. Should be starting.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Don't say that! You're overrating him!!

I know you're being sarcastic but he is over rating him if he thinks he's too good to be a squad player.

 

[Gannicus]

Shocking isn't it? If he does really become one here, he should look to leave at the end of the season. He's too good a player to be a squad player here.

Agreed. Shocking management by Louis to drop the midfielder, play another midfielder out of position and play a striker out of position...all in the service of grim performances.

 

[Speak]

I wouldn't be too shocked if this guys returns to Spain in a year or two. It really wouldn't surprise me.

 

[ZDwyr]

I'd like to see him get a start sometime soon, don't think he has a claim on being a starter though. Form is hugely exaggerated by many.

 

[DWelbz19]

I know you're being sarcastic but he is over rating him if he thinks he's too good to be a squad player.

Our best central midfielder should be a squad player?

 

[ZDwyr]

Our best central midfielder should be a squad player?

He isn't our best CM. To be honest in terms of form he has shown IMO he is about 4th.

 

[thejtrain]

I know you're being sarcastic but he is over rating him if he thinks he's too good to be a squad player.

He's our best CM. There's nothing overrating about him in saying he's better than the rest of our options. What could be overrating is saying he's one of the best in the league already.

 

[Deleted member 78215]

Our best central midfielder should be a squad player?

He's not our best CM - that'd be Carrick, followed by Blind - at least based on this season's evidence. That being said, I'd rather have him in CM than Rooney

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Shocking isn't it? If he does really become one here, he should look to leave at the end of the season. He's too good a player to be a squad player here.

It's Manchester United, technically they are all squad players. He's better being here than some shit side.

 

[DWelbz19]

Only Blind has been better this season, and even then, semantics but he's a holding midfielder. He's not his competition.

 

[thejtrain]

It's Manchester United, technically they are all squad players. He's better being here than some shit side.

That's exactly how it can't be argued. Our current midfield state isn't what you often see or want to see at United. He should be starting more games than he is really. I'm pretty sure he'd rather be a starter in a "lesser" side than warm the bench here.

 

[Skills]

Whoever pushed/approved for his signing should be sacked. What a complete waste of money.

 

[sizzling sausages]

Only Blind has been better this season, and even then, semantics but he's a holding midfielder. He's not his competition.

Really? I don't like Rooney in midfield but he's had a better season than Herrera so far and he's played midfield for the most part. Fellaini has probably been just as good too imo. Di Maria has been better than him when played in midfield too.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Our best central midfielder should be a squad player?

I took it more to mean that he thinks Ander Herrera should be a guaranteed starter for you regardless of competition.

I agree he should be first choice at the minute but long term he should really only be a squad player, that's all he'd be at every other top club.

 

[Kazi]

As soon as LvG realises that you need to play midfielders in midfield to have a well-balance and well-oiled midfield, he'll be starting again. But Fellaini is ahead of him in the pecking order right now, and rightfully so. Having said that, was harsh to drop Herrera after the cup game. He wasn't at his best in that game but it warranted another start.

 

[Amar__]

I took it more to mean that he thinks Ander Herrera should be a guaranteed starter for you regardless of competition.

I agree he should be first choice at the minute but long term he should really only be a squad player, that's all he'd be at every other top club.

Based on few games you saw him at United?

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Based on few games you saw him at United?

No, based on the many games I watched him play for Athletic Club and Zaragoza.

 

[izec]

if Herrera would play, Mata would be a squad player or Falcao. He is just not the player van Gaal wants in a midfield, Rooney fits better at the moment. At the latest when Strootman arrives, he will be on the bench for most games.

 

[thejtrain]

Really? I don't like Rooney in midfield but he's had a better season than Herrera so far and he's played midfield for the most part. Fellaini has probably been just as good too imo. Di Maria has been better than him when played in midfield too.

It's easy to say Rooney's been better than Herrera there on the whole, but that's mostly b/c of the mins he got there. Others, just no. Herrera has simply been a level above the rest in the limited time he got there.

 

[Amar__]

No, based on the many games I watched him play for Athletic Club and Zaragoza.

And you missed those games when he was dominating against Barca's and Real Madrid's top midfields?

 

[Cassidy]

if Herrera would play, Mata would be a squad player or Falcao. He is just not the player van Gaal wants in a midfield, Rooney fits better at the moment. At the latest when Strootman arrives, he will be on the bench for most games.

He actually doesn't.

 

[sizzling sausages]

It's easy to say Rooney's been better than Herrera there on the whole, but that's mostly b/c of the mins he got there. Others, just no. Herrera has simply been a level above the rest in the limited time he got there.

I disagree, I don't think he's been a level above anyone tbh. I actually think he's been poor in as many games as he's been good.

 

[izec]

He actually doesn't.

not for us, but for van Gaal

 

[Cassidy]

not for us, but for van Gaal

Indeed, and I find that worrying tbh.

 

[Brophs]

Interesting how people dismissed his absences earlier in the season as being down to injury. It seems pretty obvious to me that LVG doesn't rate him, or at least he wants something different in there.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

And you missed those games when he was dominating against Barca's and Real Madrid's top midfields?

No, I didn't miss them. I just don't think playing well against a few big sides (dominating is an exaggeration) should outweigh his patchy form for a few straight seasons, especially when he played further back in midfield. He was benched in spells at Athletic Club so I find it baffling to expect him to be more than a squad player at your club.

 

[MTR]

Please mod, change my tag to "hates Herrera on the bench".

 

[Cassidy]

Interesting how people dismissed his absences earlier in the season as being down to injury. It seems pretty obvious to me that LVG doesn't rate him, or at least he wants something different in there.

Yeah I think that much is obvious now, but I still find it baffling, there seemed to be a lot of promise in his performances.

 

[Skills]

Interesting how people dismissed his absences earlier in the season as being down to injury. It seems pretty obvious to me that LVG doesn't rate him, or at least he wants something different in there.

Then why did he buy him? We massively overpaid for him anyway - which is somewhat acceptable if he really wanted/needed him. But he's basically paid 30m for a squad player now. It's worse than the Fellaini signing.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Interesting how people dismissed his absences earlier in the season as being down to injury. It seems pretty obvious to me that LVG doesn't rate him, or at least he wants something different in there.

Been obvious for a while. Only now that so many caftards are turning on Van Gaal is it being recognised. The cognitive dissonance was too much before Xmas.

 

[Amar__]

No, I didn't miss them. I just don't think playing well against a few big sides (dominating is an exaggeration) should outweigh his patchy form for a few straight seasons, especially when he played further back in midfield. He was benched in spells at Athletic Club so I find it baffling to expect him to be more than a squad player at your club.

Well, he was regulary playing good against top sides, so there is obviously very good midfielder there. Also, he is 25.

 

[Water Melon]

Ander Herrera is a much better midfielder than Wayne will ever be, just like Wayne is a striker that Ander will never be. No need to try fitting square pegs in round holes, especially when you have square and round ones of both.

 

[Orton]

In this team he'd be a better fit in midfield than Rooney. If LVG doesn't rate Rooney as the main striker, he needs to take him out the midfield because he's not very good there, and we have a box to box all rounder like Herrera missing out again.

 

[Brophs]

Then why did he buy him? We massively overpaid for him anyway - which is somewhat acceptable if he really wanted/needed him. But he's basically paid 30m for a squad player now. It's worse than the Fellaini signing.

No idea. Earlier in the season I made the point that I couldn't really understand the fact we seemed to be using the scouting of a manager we deemed to be not good enough.

 

[Cassidy]

No idea. Earlier in the season I made the point that I couldn't really understand the fact we seemed to be using the scouting of a manager we deemed to be not good enough.

He was a target prior to Moyes

 

[Walrus]

Really surprised that Fellaini and Herrera havent been getting some more starts after our recent poor performances.

 

[izec]

poor guy

 

[matherto]

Didn't give the ball away today, progress.