I am not judging them solely based on stats but if I didn't use that everything would be subjective and someone like you wouldn't even recognize the quality of a player, but whatever, your childish posts stay ignored from now on, bye:-)This is an absolute car crash of a post.
There's nothing outlandish in saying Herrera doesn't come close to Kante. First off Kante was arguably the player of the year last year and he's right up there this year too. Just watch the games objectively and not focus heavily on stats and you'll see why Kante is rated so highly. The notion that Kante's performances/quality is media driven is a joke. He's hardly skillful, not British, barely scores and is certainly lacking in the looks department so why would he be lavished with praise for anything other than his performances week in week out.
While you're busy trying to convince yourself Herrera is better, Kante is on his way to back to back league titles being in the top 3 most important players.
But yeah media hype
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Why waste a post on complete conjecture?
Just listen to yourself. I'm following a media narrative because I think Kante is better than Herrera?
Oh, you don't expect creative passing from Herrera but expect it from Herrera, despite them playing very similar position. It all makes sense now.
Kante is the big strong destroyer type the English love, whereas Herrera is the skillful yet snide Spaniard we love to hate.
I'm reality theyre both performing on a similar fairly high but not spectacular level. I still think Matic from a couple of years ago is better than Kante.
I think it's very simple, Kante is most likely going to win the league back to back while Herrera is in the team currently 6th. The rating of players by the media has generally little to do with their individual performances, it's mostly down to reputation from previous seasons and the team's current league position.
What? Kante is much smaller than Herrera!
Not in how he plays. Makelele was short too, didn't stop him being physical either.What? Kante is much smaller than Herrera!
Kante is a midget. And Ander is 6 feet. Yet because Kante is a pure water carrier who plays physically, he's seen as big and Herrera being a silky Spaniard will always be seen as little.
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he is a key player but this is basic stuff surely? As a midfielder you need to mark players. You could do this for everyone of our defensive players.
For once we might be able to use some of LvG's advice - take a touch before you shoot.
Herrera clearly isn't able to hit them directly, channel some of that philosophy and take a touch.
B2B midfielder like him should have some more goals to his name.
Herrera clearly isn't able to hit them directly, channel some of that philosophy and take a touch.
B2B midfielder like him should have some more goals to his name.
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Bit of a fecking stinker tonight from the lad. Not just him to be fair, but he's all over the place.
One of him or Fellaini need to sit in front of the back 4.
Brilliant at shutting down the space but he's so conservative with his passing we get nowhere when he's on the ball.
He is in no way a box to box player type though.
Not sure what he's doing out there, it feels like last season away to Wolfsburg where there was a black hole in our midfield.
Not been significantly awful, not his best game for sure, but I sense a little overreaction
This is the best description of Herrera I've read. In an ideal world, he'd be a rotation player for us.
Not at all. He seems unaware what he's meant to be doing. For a player who is in the team for the role he plays, he's be dreadful. Although it is the first half, so hoping he improves.
These are the games where the 'we need an upgrade on Herrera crowd' come from.
His defensive work has been great this season overall. However when he receives a pass, in general it goes back to the player who passed it to him in the 1st place. It's frustrating to watch.
His defensive work has been great this season overall. However when he receives a pass, in general it goes back to the player who passed it to him in the 1st place. It's frustrating to watch.
Future Carrick replacement he's been touted as
Yeah. The games where the whole team is playing shit.
Sick of posts like this. It's as if players do not improve. Ideally we need a better center forward than Ibra, a better midfielder than Pogba and better goalkeeper than de Gea. But you stick with the players in the first XI and establish some consistency
This wasnt an overreaction of anything.
Given the ball away so often in this second half.
He was very poor tonight, probably his worst game of the season.
Pure shite. His next game should be final, looks tired.
Easily his worst performance of the season for me. Gave away possession too easily and failed to get the ball forward when a pass was on. Had more than a few opportunities to play Martial forward when he had his fullback isolated and didn't do it.
Headless chicken mode tonight like the first half against Liverpool, shame as he was excellent on the weekend. He's not young and needs to eradicate these erratic performances.
He's suspended next week and I hope we rest him on sunday so he has 1,5 weeks of rest until the big game against Southampton. Need the time off.
Just awesome this threadthere are few better than those players though
Poor today. Must be spent and needs a bit of rest.
Look at the amount of running he does. He desperately needs a rest and hopefully we rest him against Blackburn and with the suspension for the return leg he will be back fresh.
Some of the hate he gets here is irritating.
Rotation player, squad player, this, that...
Rotation player, squad player, this, that...
His closing down was good in the second half when he was playing closer to Pogba and there wasn't the gaping hole of the first half, but he was poor on the ball tonight.
Since he replaced Carrick in defensive midfield we have conceded a grand total of 0 goals. Carricks last 90 minute game was on the 26th and yes, you guessed it, it was the last time we conceded a goal.Future Carrick replacement he's been touted as
I thought he looked better once Fellaini went off and Pogba dropped deep next to him 
He does the dirty stuff for us. I do think hes underappreciated on here because hes not a direct Carrick replacement. But then again Carrick was getting some hate cos he wasnt a direct Keane replacement, so yeh.
He does the dirty stuff for us. I do think hes underappreciated on here because hes not a direct Carrick replacement. But then again Carrick was getting some hate cos he wasnt a direct Keane replacement, so yeh.
Some of the love hes gotten for 3 years is as well.
Glad hes suspended for the second leg as that should be a formality now. Gets the suspension out of the way in a straight forward match. Rest him against blackburn, a full week and a half off before the cup final.
He's one of the main players affected by our lack of midfield rotation options. He looked wrecked physically and mentally out there.
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