Allforone
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He showed Carrick up today big time for me, did more in his brief cameo than Carrick could muster for an hour...was excellent when he came on still dont understand how some dont see the quality in this lad.
I think it's just that some people aren't patient enough with centre mids.
Lucas isn't good enough, Fletcher isn't good enough, Anderson's vastly overrated...people don't seem to catch on that midfielders usually aren't even ready to be playing as many games for such a big club in midfield at this age, and only very, very few can.
Nah, that was Valencia that put through that beautiful ball. Almost a carbon copy of the one he gave Rooney a couple of games ago.Did he assist Diouf today? . Sky sports is crediting it to him. Played very well today.
Nah, that was Valencia that put through that beautiful ball. Almost a carbon copy of the one he gave Rooney a couple of games ago.
Spot on Brwny. Zidane was close to 25 when he signed for Juve and 29 close to 30 when he signed for Real. I'm not saying Ando is gonna be the next Zizou, but some people need some fecking perspective. The peak age for a CM is far higher than it is for wingers or forwards. The age spectrum increases the further back into the field you go generally. Unless you're Fabregas, but find me another player like Fabregas? You can't. He will be great one day, I'm sure of it, his natural ability is clear to see and he's far more consistent than someone like Nani and far less reliant on beating people or the physical attributes like pace that give you an advantage in youth.
I think it's just that some people aren't patient enough with centre mids.
Lucas isn't good enough, Fletcher isn't good enough, Anderson's vastly overrated...people don't seem to catch on that midfielders usually aren't even ready to be playing as many games for such a big club in midfield at this age, and only very, very few can.
No need to bring him up in this thread, I have enough of this discussion in the Nani threads.
I of course agree with the remaining
I'm actually a Nani supporter, if such a thing still exists, I was just using him as an age comparison really. Though Ando>Nani clearly for me, it wasn't meant as a dig.
Anderson is more frustrating to watch than Nani
To be fair there's a difference between not being great but showing great potential as a youngster and being downright awful. Lucas has for large parts of his Liverpool career been the latter. Anderson the former. So the reactions should be very different.
Sadly, Fletcher was very poor in his early united career. I felt he had 'something', but he wasn't as good as Anderson back then, far worse.
What?!
What?!
Anderson is more frustrating to watch than Nani, especially when he tries his ballooned passes.
Anderson is more frustrating to watch than Nani
especially when he tries his ballooned passes
Nail on the head mate.Spot on Brwny. Zidane was close to 25 when he signed for Juve and 29 close to 30 when he signed for Real. I'm not saying Ando is gonna be the next Zizou, but some people need some fecking perspective. The peak age for a CM is far higher than it is for wingers or forwards. The age spectrum increases the further back into the field you go generally. Unless you're Fabregas, but find me another player like Fabregas? You can't. He will be great one day, I'm sure of it, his natural ability is clear to see and he's far more consistent than someone like Nani and far less reliant on beating people or the physical attributes like pace that give you an advantage in youth.
A number of which he actually pulled off in the game, among which was an especially memorable one to Nani out far out on the left?
A number of which he actually pulled off in the game, including an especially memorable one to Nani out far out on the left.
I can see him as an Essien type of player, but not as a passer, so please everyone stop wanking over his passing ability.
But he really isn't.
Fine, I'll take that thank you very much.
So what are you complaining about exactly?
You can't say that, frustration isn't an entirely logical emotion as far as I can tell, so little things that frustrate others won't frustrate you.
Really you should just stick technique in every one of Scholesy's posts, i.e. 'Anderson's technique is more frustrating than Nani's', and that's probably not far from the truth.
Nani can come off as very classy whereas Anderson often seems a little rushed. It's not Nani's technique it's his use of it that's usually the problem, Anderson's technique is a bit more unusual - his passing and shooting looks awkward, his dribbling is more about pace and power than close control and he runs around a lot which to some people makes him look like somewhat of a headless chicken.
I think both will become great players at some point though.
I think both will become great players at some point though.
He never runs into the box to try and score.
When Evra or whoever at RB has the ball, he points to where they should pass it, instead of collecting it.
His long range passing is awful.
That he really isnt a great passer. I read someone said he never looses the ball too. Not true.
His short passing is fine, but his long passing is poor.
I say he can be Essien like, but then I wonder if he has the defensive qualities to succeed - He let Iniesta past him rather easily in Rome for the first goal.
To be fair, Iniesta would run easily past most players.
His long passing can be very good at times, even with his right foot. He doesn't have the consistency yet but he's only 21.
Agreed. It's whether or not the manager and fans will give them the time to realise their potential. In my mind we'd be fecking daft to sell them for less than their purchased price.
Then we are thinking of two different Andersons.
Then we are thinking of two different Andersons.
His pass to Giggs vs Portsmouth last season where Giggs then just had to roll it on a plate for Rooney?
I think in his first season where he made a tackle and then hit an amazing pass to Ronaldo against Lyon.
There was a match this season where he hit a few long passes with his right foot and they reached the target, forgot what game it was though.
Clearly. His long range passing is often excellent. Today for example he instigated break moves from nowhere with fantastic long range passes. Did you watch that?
No, not really, alot are overhit in my opinion, I don't really see him as a natural passer. Scholsey may be a bit extreme but I can see where he's coming from with regards to Anderson.