Fracture90
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Is it just me or has he also bulked up a bit?
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Basically passes the ball as though he’s the player receiving it. His insistence on standing still while waiting for a pass being another big flaw in his game.He seems to find it extremely difficult to pass to moving targets. He always passes it as if they're stationary, never seems to play it properly infront in the direction they're running
If it bothers you that people are discussing Anthony Martial’s performances why are you reading a thread about his performances?A player performing inconsistently in an inconsistent team? Nah, crucify him crucify him.
He’s being coached poorly then. Could you imagine how good he would be under Pep?Basically passes the ball as though he’s the player receiving it. His insistence on standing still while waiting for a pass being another big flaw in his game.
No I can’t.He’s being coached poorly then. Could you imagine how good he would be under Pep?
The only reason it is slow is because he gets the ball and has no options. Everytime he gets the ball you can see he is actually looking to quicken the movement and play it quickly he is pretty much always looking for a quick one two but there is nothing to hit.No I can’t.
With quick, accurate short passing being such a big part of Pep’s approach, I doubt he’d even pick him.
The key word in my post wasn’t “quick” it was “accurate”.The only reason it is slow is because he gets the ball and has no options. Everytime he gets the ball you can see he is actually looking to quicken the movement and play it quickly he is pretty much always looking for a quick one two but there is nothing to hit.
This is a factor that runs throughout our team, so I can only assume we don't really work on it in training. We're really good at building play and passing around the back line but as soon as we need some guile or creativity to get into dangerous areas our players go missing. It's all to feet or over the top.Basically passes the ball as though he’s the player receiving it. His insistence on standing still while waiting for a pass being another big flaw in his game.
Because he makes a great run, beats his man and then makes absolute dumb passes directly to opposition players or in areas where only opposition defenders could reach or wild pass which is of not much use. If someone would have made a video of Martial (even in better matches like the Chelsea one), you would see it is a common thing he does.Not sure why people are going on about his passing, always been decent to me. Admittedly it can be better and last night wasn’t great but he is the one trying to make things happen and the knife edge passes at the top end are the hardest ones to make happen. Needs to improve accuracy but it’s hardly horrendous.
Martial's struggle passing is due to his inability to move in to the right places to isolate defenders.Not sure why people are going on about his passing, always been decent to me. Admittedly it can be better and last night wasn’t great but he is the one trying to make things happen and the knife edge passes at the top end are the hardest ones to make happen. Needs to improve accuracy but it’s hardly horrendous.
I don’t really see it the same, I do see him misplace or not execute passes as consistently as he should but I see it as he is trying to thread a difficult pass through and either misses by a tiny fraction or mistimes it. Just in that Chelsea game off the top of my head I can think of two incidents where the pass was just fractionally off but they were passes that would have opened Chelsea up.Because he makes a great run, beats his man and then makes absolute dumb passes directly to opposition players or in areas where only opposition defenders could reach or wild pass which is of not much use. If someone would have made a video of Martial (even in better matches like the Chelsea one), you would see it is a common thing he does.
The problem for him is that we are not a team that create loads of chances and so everything counts
This is 100% true. People see patterns where there are none. His passing has been off lately, that's a fact, but generally his passing is quite dangerous, that's also a fact.I don’t really see it the same, I do see him misplace or not execute passes as consistently as he should but I see it as he is trying to thread a difficult pass through and either misses by a tiny fraction or mistimes it. Just in that Chelsea game off the top of my head I can think of two incidents where the pass was just fractionally off but they were passes that would have opened Chelsea up.
Other than that his passing over the season and other seasons have been pretty good and he is one of the better and more dangerous passers.
We need new players.Which shows his performance was hardly his fault. He was just part of a very big problem.
Yea. I think 10 more players and another £400m spent, then we'd be able to complete a pass.We need new players.
Correct. New players needed.Yea. I think 10 more players and another £400m spent, then we'd be able to complete a pass.
Not yet good enough? Of course he has proven to be good enough. Who then is good enough if he's not?He's a talented plater, who's nit good enough to be first choice yet. Same with Rashford.. But, we dont have any other players that are better, so he starts. Wouldnt be starting for any top clubs in Europe and not for City, Pool, Spurs or Chelsea.
We need a upgrade on certain players or accept a few bad seasons
Welcome to the realisation that we're actually just not that good. If we had a team that was capable of going toe to toe with Europe's elite, very few of these players would feature. I've been saying this for a long time now.Not yet good enough? Of course he has proven to be good enough. Who then is good enough if he's not?
The players are not the reason the team is not good enough rather, the team is the reason the players doesn't look good enough. Stick those so good players in this team and they would look half the players they are. Everyone is struggling, we don't look like a team.Welcome to the realisation that we're actually just not that good. If we had a team that was capable of going toe to toe with Europe's elite, very few of these players would feature. I've been saying this for a long time now.
I made a thread which about this about a year ago asking who was good enough and giving my opinion that not many of these players will be considered starters next time we win the league. Not many agreed, but I bet it would get a different response today.
He is inconsistent defensively and movement wise, the X amount of times we loose the ball and opponents attack doesn't help either as mist of the time they have to play as wingbacks or full backs, then he lacks the vision for movement on quick effective counter, while our mid take too long to pass forward as well.Juve's first goal summed Martial up really. Reactive instead of proactive. Minimum effort. Honestly, it happened right in front of me, I see it developing and I couldn't believe the effort he put in to track his man. He's either stupid or lazy.
And just another point, against Chelsea was playing no different. Luckily he got a goal and then suddenly looked interested. I remember actually saying to my mates "he's got a goal and suddenly he looks interested in playing". It's as though he's not fully focused or fired up at times and suddenly he remembers he's on a football pitch in front of thousands playing for Manchester United.
As a matter of interest, in Fergie's last couple season, which players would have got into "Europe's elite" sides in your opinion?Welcome to the realisation that we're actually just not that good. If we had a team that was capable of going toe to toe with Europe's elite, very few of these players would feature. I've been saying this for a long time now.
I made a thread which about this about a year ago asking who was good enough and giving my opinion that not many of these players will be considered starters next time we win the league. Not many agreed, but I bet it would get a different response today.
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Let's look at which of our players have ever proven themselves as being good enough to win a league title.The players are not the reason the team is not good enough rather, the team is the reason the players doesn't look good enough. Stick those so good players in this team and they would look half the players they are. Everyone is struggling, we don't look like a team.
You can make a comparison between our players and the top teams players, before we got ours and before they got theirs. Theirs were no better than ours. Our players only suddenly became bad once they joined us.
Just said the same in the Lukaku thread. Let's pair these posts up and make it happen Jose!Play the man through the middle. Rest Lukaku.