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It was an odd one today, he looked up for it but he was so sloppy in all aspects of his play.
It's insulting to compare the 2 honestly.Less talented, less consistent, less decisive in games than Nani.
Nani was better.He is basically our Nani. Will never go to the next level no matter what.
He's not wrong. He's still more dangerous than Lingard or Mata. And we need to score.
Did he play against PSG?He's not wrong. He's still more dangerous than Lingard or Mata. And we need to score.
Yeah, sorry. I'm in the wrong here. Sad that Martial hasn't developed from that incredible 19 year old that displayed so much ability in 2015/16.He probably lacks the most important thing, mentality. He's very comfortable with the ball, has an ok finishing technique, pretty good first touch. He has talent but I got a feeling that either he thinks he's better than he actually is or he simply doesn't have the mentality to progress as a footballer. Why his work-rate is so poor I have no idea.
That's an insult to Nani. I can bet all I have that Martial will never put as good season here as Nani's 2010/2011.He is basically our Nani. Will never go to the next level no matter what.
Rashford is also in shocking form... Lukaku's form is poor... Martial deserves a crack at Barca.
Neither are or were average.Comparing Martial to Nani
Nani is an average forward/striker. And Martial is an average winger. What kind of useless conparison is this? Martial is only playing winger because there's no other options .
When did you see him playing regularly as a striker to conclude he'll be better there ? I remember people were fully convinced when Rooney would play as a striker or number 10 he'll be great again.Comparing Martial to Nani
Nani is an average forward/striker. And Martial is an average winger. What kind of useless conparison is this? Martial is only playing winger because there's no other options .
Martial deserves nothing.Rashford is also in shocking form... Lukaku's form is poor... Martial deserves a crack at Barca.
Martial could take a dump on the pitch and some would describe it as great on here. One of the favourite reviews on here is that 'he was the only one trying to make things happen'.I've seen him play like that before and someone described it as great on here.
Haha no need for sarcasm, and he wasn't incredible when he joined or since then. I just have the opinion he has talent but isn't developing for whatever reason.Yeah, sorry. I'm in the wrong here. Sad that Martial hasn't developed from that incredible 19 year old that displayed so much ability in 2015/16.
Ah I see. Because we won against PSG without him (when he wasn't available) we shouldn't start him against Barca. What brilliant logic.Did he play against PSG?
Nah, no sarcasm. I overreacted originally.Haha no need for sarcasm, and he wasn't incredible when he joined or since then. I just have the opinion he has talent but isn't developing for whatever reason.
Righto. Well, I reckon he will anyway, and I reckon he'll play well too.Martial deserves nothing.
His play style is nothing similar to Nani. Nani could cross with both feet, shoot from distance, go inside/outside and link up with his fullback.. god knows how wasteful he will have been in further advanced position.When did you see him playing regularly as a striker to conclude he'll be better there ? I remember people were fully convinced when Rooney would play as a striker or number 10 he'll be great again.
Champions League winner and European Championships winner, too. Nani's career will go down as very successful.It's insulting to compare the 2 honestly.
I think some forget just how good Nani was for us from 2010 to 2012.
You didn't answer my question. Where did you watch him play as a striker regularly to conclude he'll be better ?His play style is nothing similar to Nani. Nani could cross with both feet, shoot from distance, go inside/outside and link up with his fullback.. god knows how wasteful he will have been in further advanced position.
Martial mainly plays inside, short one two and receive the return in the box for finishing. Basically nothing special for wingers- he's merely filling a spot nothing more. I did saw some stats that his xG was 6 this season but he got 10 placing him in the higher category for clinical strikers in the league. The problem is actually the regression of the football even more than the position. When we started the whole front three was interchanging position and linking up well then the fluidity stopped after the injury crisis and we went back to static and rigid football.
And where did I say there's a conclusion? Nobody knows the final conclusion I only saw his playing style and highligted the difference between him and the nani comparisons.You didn't answer my question. Where did you watch him play as a striker regularly to conclude he'll be better ?
You said he's an average winger and playing there only because there's no other option even though he spent his entire United career so far playing there and all his great performance were on the left. Literally, literally, no reason to believe he'll change if he moves to central, except assumptions only.And where did I say there's a conclusion? Nobody knows the final conclusion I only saw his playing style and highligted the difference between him and the nani comparisons.
But he's never really been a winger, he's an inside forward that comes from the left side. That's what he was at Monaco, and that's what he was his first season here with the #9 and being the team's highest goalscorer at 19 in a new league. Regardless, right now his issue is confidence IMO more than anything. The way he played today was typical of someone with very little self-belief. He didn't want to take anybody on, he took ages to make a decision before the defender bailed him out with a foul for the penalty, he's just looking really out of sorts and far from his best. A confident Martial is someone who can do things pretty much nobody but Pogba can on this team.You said he's an average winger and playing there only because there's no other option even though he spent his entire United career so far playing there and all his great performance were on the left. Literally, literally, no reason to believe he'll change if he moves to central, except assumptions only.
Why does he have a very little self belief currently ? Isn't he playing regularly whenever he's fit under a lovely manager who supports his players ? Why will confidence be shaken ?But he's never really been a winger, he's an inside forward that comes from the left side. That's what he was at Monaco, and that's what he was his first season here with the #9 and being the team's highest goalscorer at 19 in a new league. Regardless, right now his issue is confidence IMO more than anything. The way he played today was typical of someone with very little self-belief. He didn't want to take anybody on, he took ages to make a decision before the defender bailed him out with a foul for the penalty, he's just looking really out of sorts and far from his best. A confident Martial is someone who can do things pretty much nobody but Pogba can on this team.
Your guess is as good as mine, could be off the field issues, maybe he can't get it up? I don't know...there's literally a million reasons why a young man can lose confidence. But he certainly looks devoid of it these last few months.Why does he have a very little self belief currently ? Isn't he playing regularly whenever he's fit under a lovely manager who supports his players ? Why will confidence be shaken ?
Can't really find any reason for him to lose confidence at the moment. Honestly I feel "losing confidence" is an excused that has been used a lot for Martial those last 3 years.Your guess is as good as mine, could be off the field issues, maybe he can't get it up? I don't know...there's literally a million reasons why a young man can lose confidence. But he certainly looks devoid of it these last few months.
Here’s one:Martial baffles me. I can't put my finger on a single reason why his level should have dropped the way it has.
These people are an embarrassment. They've watched some fantastic attackers here over the years and they worship some garbage performances from the current lot.I've seen him play like that before and someone described it as great on here.
It's not really an excuse, as a professional athlete you're in charge of your mental game as well as your physical shape. In the past, it has been somewhat of a warranted excuse as he was given a very short leash by Mourinho and when he was finally given a chance, both this season and last, he played well and statistically was very impactful with his time on the field. This time, it's not quite as valid because Ole has given him plenty of chances and he is simply not taking them.Can't really find any reason for him to lose confidence at the moment. Honestly I feel "losing confidence" is an excused that has been used a lot for Martial those last 3 years.