[tentan]

Been for years. It took Sevilla about 2 weeks to realise he was crap yet here he is still starting games for United years later.

United still think he will come good

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

He's not good enough for a top 5 league anymore.

MLS is his level.

 

[AshRK]

When is his contract expiring? Please let it be soon

 

[Red00012]

When is his contract expiring? Please let it be soon

At the end of the season but we have a 12 month option

 

[sourdough satellite]

How can anyone think he's a scapegoat when pretty much everyone including the manager is getting pelters this season?

 

[AshRK]

At the end of the season but we have a 12 month option

Please don't tell our board that he has 12 month extension option, they will trigger it

 

[Red00012]

Please don't tell our board that he has 12 month extension option, they will trigger it

“Protect the asset”

 

[Stack]

How long has he been playing for us?

 

[utdalltheway]

Time for a 5 year contract?
This tits on a bull “striker” has been the most expensive teenager ever signed and I think most except him, his agent and his family, would agree that he’s been a waste of money for us.

 

[Dex_Utd]

He is stealing minutes only because of our shambolic transfer policy. I don't think that any striker randomly selected from our under-21s will do any worse. We should have gotten rid of him years ago, but here he is not only stealing his wages but somehow also ending up in our starting line-ups.
Its strange that as soon as he is out for 5-6 games, suddenly everyone forgets the lazy uninterested striker that he is, and everyone has hopes in him all over again. Its a mystery how he has managed to survive through years of this cycle where the only constant is that he is still here and he is still shite.

 

[Jeffthered]

How many years? And some fans still, still think Anthony Martial is a player worthy of any, any consideration at all.

His presence at the club continues to make a big, big statement about where Manchester United FC is.

He's a disgrace to the club. Performances, attitude.

Shocking.

 

[RopersReturn]

Apparently he’s got bags of potential? Although now in his eighth season with us, hopefully the promising young striker should start to deliver. He’s just misunderstood and needs a manager who has belief in him like half of the current squad..

 

[ti vu]

How many years? And some fans still, still think Anthony Martial is a player worthy of any, any consideration at all.

His presence at the club continues to make a big, big statement about where Manchester United FC is.

He's a disgrace to the club. Performances, attitude.

Shocking.

The issue is not that most people don't see the problem. The issue is that nobody would get him off our hands. If we paid off his contract and released him, we would have needed to pay money to have someone to fill his place in the squad, which we didn't have the money.

Martial doesn't seem to have that big of an influence toward a group of other players. He's not Pogba or Lingard or Lukaku, where you want to rid at all cost to keep the bad influence away from the dressing room. He's not reliable, but pretty much harmless now under a manager with good man management skill. His contract is due at the end of this season anyways.

 

[Red_Aaron]

Some of his build up work was OK first half, better than it has been anyway.

Failed to make any meaningful runs in behind though, or even just attack the front post for potential pull backs.

Your cf has to carry a goal threat of some description, this can often just be about working the position. Make the basic runs into channels, attack the front post, follow everyone's shots for rebounds, challenge for the aerial ball if hit long, win freekicks if you're isolated. These are all kids level stuff but he doesn't do any of them. He wants the little slipped pass that gives him a 1 on 1 or he's not interested. He's also never been a player to dig in and drag you over the line when the games going bad.

 

[Danny]

I feel a bit sorry for Martial though. His game has changed over the years due to his injuries so expectations of his dribbling past players and slotting home should be limited.

He now comes deeper to get on the ball, which is fine at times, and can hold the ball up or make little round the corner passes but we don't have anyone that consistently runs beyond him (or Hojlund for that matter). Antony never runs in behind and Garnacho doesn't do it enough and there's only really McTominay who gambles.

The whole system isn't set up to score goals in a way that is structured.

 

[noodlehair]

I kind of feel sorry for him.

I can't fathom why any sane manager would put him back in the team a week after that Newcastle display, never mind when you consider that it isn't even a surprise when he plays like that and hasn't been for a good few years.

It's just sending him into the lion pit, because the fans have long since lost patience with him and were always going to be right on his back unless we ended up winning 5-0, which was never going to happen. He isn't the type of character you're going to get a reaction from by surrounding him with negative energy.

 

[statpadder]

I feel sorry for him because he will always be the scapegoat, no matter if he plays 9 minutes or 90.

People just can not see the fundamental flaw in our team and just need an easy target to blame.

You go to Hoijland’s thread and its all full of “no service”, “dalot should have passed” etc. Why can’t people see that we don’t try to pass to Martial as well?

Our attacking play is all about individual brilliance. No triangles, movement or patterns of play. Any striker would struggle. Mbappe would have 0 premier league goals as well.

 

[Orton]

I feel sorry for him because he will always be the scapegoat, no matter if he plays 9 minutes or 90.

People just can not see the fundamental flaw in our team and just need an easy target to blame.

You go to Hoijland’s thread and its all full of “no service”, “dalot should have passed” etc. Why can’t people see that we don’t try to pass to Martial as well?

Our attacking play is all about individual brilliance. No triangles, movement or patterns of play. Any striker would struggle. Mbappe would have 0 premier league goals as well.

Correct. No hope playing as a striker in our team. You’ve got one winger who doesn’t create anything and another who takes players on and shoots. You’ve got a midfield with no balance and Hollywood shots galore. There’s nobody to link with. Nobody. Højlund isn’t scoring in the league, I wonder why? Martial is clearly not gonna be the answer but he’s not to blame for yesterdays collapse. He still does the basics well and gets ignored most of the game because our players are fecking clueless.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Was he good? Absolutely not. But it strikes me how he is absolutely trashed after every game while Hojlund is excused because Dalot, team, manager and whatever. So which is it? Why for Martial we can't use excuses as we do for Hojlund?
I mean, there is no much difference in their performances. So they are both underperforming or they are both not guilty for lack of goals and overall contribution.

Guy is probably finished here and he needs to go but criticism towards him is over the top.

 

[Leftback99]

Double standards because Hojlund is new and runs a bit harder. Doesn't make a difference who plays up front in this team, we don't get the ball to them.

 

[Orton]

Was he good? Absolutely not. But it strikes me how he is absolutely trashed after every game while Hojlund is excused because Dalot, team, manager and whatever. So which is it? Why for Martial we can't use excuses as we do for Hojlund?
I mean, there is no much difference in their performances. So they are both underperforming or they are both not guilty for lack of goals and overall contribution.

Guy is probably finished here and he needs to go but criticism towards him is over the top.

Weghorst was shit too, but it’s no coincidence most of our goals come from Bruno or Rashford (last season) Just individual moments and penalties, and strikers need chances, yeah they can create stuff themselves too but in our team that ain’t going to happen. Isolated most of the game chasing scraps.

 

[lex talionis]

No one should feel sorry for Anthony Martial. Yes without a doubt Jose was a dick to him and that he’s had injuries, but the exact same thing happened to Luke Shaw and yet Luke pulled up his socks while Anthony downed tools.

What we seen this season and last from Anthony is beyond all belief, and it’s not though he’s going through a bit of a rough patch after 6 seasons of brilliance.

 

[Idxomer]

Correct. No hope playing as a striker in our team. You’ve got one winger who doesn’t create anything and another who takes players on and shoots. You’ve got a midfield with no balance and Hollywood shots galore. There’s nobody to link with. Nobody. Højlund isn’t scoring in the league, I wonder why? Martial is clearly not gonna be the answer but he’s not to blame for yesterdays collapse. He still does the basics well and gets ignored most of the game because our players are fecking clueless.

There were a few instances with Garnacho refusing to pass the ball for him in decent positions. 2 or 3 times even after getting the pass from Martial himself.

The way our academy wingers are developed is just fundamentally wrong.

 

[Andersonson]

Its true that he dont get any service, the same with Højlund. He is still shite and a liability though. He aint tired after a game even. Lazy and overpaid

 

[statpadder]

There were a few instances with Garnacho refusing to pass the ball for him in decent positions. 2 or 3 times even after getting the pass from Martial himself.

The way our academy wingers are developed is just fundamentally wrong.

This is just strange because when Garnacho came to the scene, he used to have excellent decision making and always looked for a pass.

It’s like the more you play with the first team, the more selfish you become. This is a major problem that all our CF will have whether you like Martial or not.

We need to pass more in the final third, create much more and have a lot more control of the game.

 

[UnitedRepublic]

Just play him and keep him in the team for the teams sake let him leave at the end of the season.

A Martial with the confidence of the coach would be so much better for the team than what Højlund has brought to the table so far.

Put Rashford back in aswell even though I don’t rate him that much he’s still better than Garnacho at the end of the day. Put Garnacho on the right wing and thats it.

 

[kouroux]

Martial is like Thanos, he's inevitable.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Martial is like Thanos, he's inevitable.

Hm, Thanos has good CV for DoF. Guy knows how to trim the squad.

 

[jem]

Just play him and keep him in the team for the teams sake let him leave at the end of the season.

A Martial with the confidence of the coach would be so much better for the team than what Højlund has brought to the table so far.

Put Rashford back in aswell even though I don’t rate him that much he’s still better than Garnacho at the end of the day. Put Garnacho on the right wing and thats it.

if Garnacho isn’t cutting it on the left, then why play him on the right?

 

[UnitedRepublic]

if Garnacho isn’t cutting it on the left, then why play him on the right?

Because Antony isn’t cutting anything.

 

[jem]

Because Antony isn’t cutting anything.

I’d then go with Pellistri, or Amad when he’s healthy

 

[UnitedRepublic]

I’d then go with Pellistri, or Amad when he’s healthy

I don’t mind Amad he’s got attributes to his game that I like but Pellestri is just a waste of our time aswell.

 

[Scottynaldinho]

Still the best first touch in the team.

 

[statpadder]

I thought he was the problem judging from the comments.

Well there you go, just shows how clueless the fan base is.

 

[jem]

I don’t mind Amad he’s got attributes to his game that I like but Pellestri is just a waste of our time aswell.

It’s definitely a dire situation

 

[Abraxas]

Just play him and keep him in the team for the teams sake let him leave at the end of the season.

A Martial with the confidence of the coach would be so much better for the team than what Højlund has brought to the table so far.

Put Rashford back in aswell even though I don’t rate him that much he’s still better than Garnacho at the end of the day. Put Garnacho on the right wing and thats it.

Nah.

Far better off sticking with Hojlund no matter how shit he plays. It's the only way he's going to sink or swim. He still needs to find chemistry with the team, he's only been here a matter of months and he's young.

Least it's an investment with some opportunity attached. Everything we've ever invested into Anthony Martial has been a proven, categorical waste of everyone's time and money.

 

[UnitedRepublic]

He’s probably found a club on loan or he’s been sold illness is just a cover up by now 2 weeks out with illness is not plausible.

 

[statpadder]

He’s probably found a club on loan or he’s been sold illness is just a cover up by now 2 weeks out with illness is not plausible.

He’s been frozen ever since he was critisized unfairly by Roy Keane, Carragher and Neville.

Then the news came out that his contract was not going to be renewed.

So he’s done here which is sad because our manager apparently has no ideas of his own and goes by what he is told by failed managers cum pundits on tv.

He did the same with Ronaldo because he was told by Carragher that he doesn’t press. Then the same to DDG because everyone in the media thought that an average ball playing keeper is better than the best shot stopper in the world.

 

[jem]

Because Antony isn’t cutting anything.

Must admit - you called this one beautifully!

 

[Devil81]

No surprise really, the story leaks his contract won't be renewed. He isn't available again.

These leaks cause all sorts of problems for the club. We've not seen Amarbat since it was leaked they wouldn't be looking the take up the buy option on his loan move.