I don't care if he doesn't use his left foot. His right foot is great.
Antonio Valencia | 2009/10 Performances
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Awesome signing.
He's good, our Valencia.
Not sure Berbatov has used his left foot yet either. Have you bumped his thread to make a note of it?
He's a cracking player as it is, one of our most consistent performers all season.
Veron, Giggs, Maradona, Rivaldo...
Calm down Ekeke, someone will make a new thread to criticise or praise Berbatov after the match has finished, it's as inevitable as the final whistle.
feck his left, his right is quality, and he still seems to find new ways to get the ball onto his right.
He very rarely has lost posession since his first few weeks here: If he loses the ball it's for a corner or throw anyways.
He very rarely has lost posession since his first few weeks here: If he loses the ball it's for a corner or throw anyways.
Because he's obviously not a cracking player already.
Tell me, this one foot obsession some of you have. What part of his game would magically become much better if he uses the left more. He clearly doesn't need to use it.
If we bought a fashionable and skillful left winger who never uses his right you'd never hear a word about it. Fact.
Its absolutely ridiculous to focus on him choosing not to use his left foot when playing on the right wing. He doesnt have to. He chooses not to on most occasions. So?
What should have been a bit more concerning is that he didnt manage to make anything happen in the second half before he was taken off.
What should have been a bit more concerning is that he didnt manage to make anything happen in the second half before he was taken off.
Well, it was the same for all our players. But I understand that you must include something negative about him in every post.
Did I include a negative about him in the post before?
His touch when bringing down a ball is out of this world. I really like him.
the point is that he is very predictable. when i watch him play i simply know what he is intending to do every time he has a ball.
on a bright side- he varies his crossing. in the Everton game he tried two high crosses before making that assist pass to Berbs.
in general- i think he is a very good signing, very solid. I just don't see that sort of magic a lot of our wingers used to have. Good value for money.
Exactly.
It's just used as a stick to beat him with. He doesn't score goals. Can't level that one at him any more. His delivery's poor. Ditto. So people decide to focus on this. It's an utter fecking nonsense. The lad's new to the club, and has made a huge step up in a short space of time.
Also, this whole predictable thing is a load of bollocks too. If you're a poor player, then being predictable is a huge problem. If you're predictable in that you get past your full back often and look to whip in crosses, then more of it, I say.
Signing of the year so far?
And yet opposition fullback's still can't stop him, so it's evidently not really a problem...
He is predictable and right now he can get away with it because 1) For some reason defenders aren't "cheating" and closing off the outside more 2) He has the pace to beat them.
But, his game at United is developing. We've seen him come inside a few times and I think we'll see once defenders think they only have to cut the outside out to defend against him, he'll then take the inside option and create from that.
Defenders pretty much know what most wingers are going to do. They are going to try get on the outside or release the overlapping player. That doesn't mean they can stop them, when the player is going to break, when the player is going to pass is still all up in the air. That he can still get around the defenders them knowing what he is going to do speaks of his well for ability.
The only thing I do wish he adds is once in a while keep going into the box once he has his man beaten. Can put some good pressure and keep things a bit more uncertain.
But, his game at United is developing. We've seen him come inside a few times and I think we'll see once defenders think they only have to cut the outside out to defend against him, he'll then take the inside option and create from that.
Defenders pretty much know what most wingers are going to do. They are going to try get on the outside or release the overlapping player. That doesn't mean they can stop them, when the player is going to break, when the player is going to pass is still all up in the air. That he can still get around the defenders them knowing what he is going to do speaks of his well for ability.
The only thing I do wish he adds is once in a while keep going into the box once he has his man beaten. Can put some good pressure and keep things a bit more uncertain.
For us? Obviously.
That's Owen
All the talk will inevitably be about Wayne Rooney for his goal and understandably so but how good was Valencia yet again today? for me he was again the best player on the pitch alongside Berbatov today, week after week hes just brilliant, ive lost count of the number of goals hes created for Rooney alone this season, hes clearly the best winger in the country without doubt on current form, i read a stat the other day that also showed Valencia was the most creative player in the league having created something like 80 goalscoring chances this season.
What a superb signing hes been, and at only 24 years old what a player hes going to be for us, along with Rooney in my opinion hes been our best player this season.
What a superb signing hes been, and at only 24 years old what a player hes going to be for us, along with Rooney in my opinion hes been our best player this season.
that's the point mate, even though he is predictable he delivers. No problem whatsoever with this. It's just amazing.
great supply to Rooney lately......very impressed
You could make Pan argument for him being signing of the year, full-stop.
You'll be pleased to know that SAF thinks Villa signing Dunne was signing of the year!
Agree with the part in bold. I think he's better this season than Lennon or Nani or whoever. What sets him apart is his physical ability to play a lot of games at a high level and not get injured. You need forwards like that.
Much too good for the likes of Wigan, he's really fitting in well with us.
Ive gotta say, Valencia at the moment has to be one of - if not the most productive player we have in the side on current form. Having such a great target like Rooney will obviously help, but his crossing has been top notch.
Valencia may not have that same magic as you can see in the likes of Nani, or Ronaldo - but whenever he receives the ball you trust him to either win you a corner, deliver a great cross or simply play a decent pass - he very very rarely loses possession, he has an end product, pretty much every time.
When we signed him I wasnt exactly overwhelmed, but with Rooneys development, they have forged a fantastic partnership and Valencia has looked like one of our best players. Trust in SAF.
Valencia may not have that same magic as you can see in the likes of Nani, or Ronaldo - but whenever he receives the ball you trust him to either win you a corner, deliver a great cross or simply play a decent pass - he very very rarely loses possession, he has an end product, pretty much every time.
When we signed him I wasnt exactly overwhelmed, but with Rooneys development, they have forged a fantastic partnership and Valencia has looked like one of our best players. Trust in SAF.
I think he's been brilliant since he came back into the team after his little rest. He really is getting better as the weeks go by, his confidence is growing and his teams are beginning to look for him to produce something.
Fantastic signing.
Fantastic signing.
Coming from a very humble background, I think he felt somewhat overwhelmed when he first came into the side and was playing within himself. He now feels part of the team and the results are showing.
We have another Ole type character in the team.
We have another Ole type character in the team.
he actually had an off day. He has been consistently productive all season.
Rooney, Evra and Valancia are our players of the season so far. We will need Valancia to run that right side in the big games coming up.
Rooney, Evra and Valancia are our players of the season so far. We will need Valancia to run that right side in the big games coming up.
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Bad day for Valencia today but it's an anomaly so I'm not too concerned, we've no midweek action this week so he should he fresh for the scum next Sunday, need him back on form for that.
Bad day for Valencia today but it's an anomaly so I'm not too concerned, we've no midweek action this week so he should he fresh for the scum next Sunday, need him back on form for that.
The forums been doing that quite a lot lately.
Unfortunate timing for him to have a dip in form. I was looking forward to him showing Insua up next weekend.
I hope it's just a bad day at the office but he was slightly subdued against Milan too (defended well but not at his best going forward).
Still, he's got a week off to find his mojo. I reckon Fergie will be keeping a close eye on h in training. Park and Nani are both on form and Giggs will be pushing for a start too. Makes a refreshing change to have competition for places on the wings!
I hope it's just a bad day at the office but he was slightly subdued against Milan too (defended well but not at his best going forward).
Still, he's got a week off to find his mojo. I reckon Fergie will be keeping a close eye on h in training. Park and Nani are both on form and Giggs will be pushing for a start too. Makes a refreshing change to have competition for places on the wings!
Wouldn't mind seeing Park play in the middle of a 5 man midfield again, Nani and Valencia on the flanks and Park bursting through the centre
Don't worry Pogue, he'll run rings around Insua.
Don't worry Pogue, he'll run rings around Insua.
Hungrywing in another thread just pointed out this thread is due a bump and it is.
Valencia was excellent against the scousers, so his lacklustre last outing was absolutely nothing to be worried about.
By the way, does anyone remember the outrageous bit of skill he did towards the end of the second half? He was on the right side of the Liverpool box, with two defenders in front of them and he did some sort of "drag back then push forward thingy" which neatly bisected them.
Would love to see it in a gif....
Valencia was excellent against the scousers, so his lacklustre last outing was absolutely nothing to be worried about.
By the way, does anyone remember the outrageous bit of skill he did towards the end of the second half? He was on the right side of the Liverpool box, with two defenders in front of them and he did some sort of "drag back then push forward thingy" which neatly bisected them.
Would love to see it in a gif....
That was a brilliant piece of skill.
I remember laughing in a kind of 'holy shit that was ace' way when he did that.
I have high hopes for him tonight, have a feeling he might get on the score sheet.
I have high hopes for him tonight, have a feeling he might get on the score sheet.
Dayum, I just want to get out there and try it.. now.. just need to find some friendsPinched from the newbie forum.
Nice.
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