[Pogue Mahone]

Yes, much in the same way as they don't penalise shirt pulling or grappling in the box, are you suggesting that is within the law? Anyway the official ruling on throw ins:

At the moment of delivering the ball, the thrower:
faces the field of play
has part of each foot either on the touchline or on the
ground outside the touchline
uses both hands
delivers the ball from behind and over his head

I'm aware of the rules. I've player competitive football before. I'm also absolutely certain the referees and assistant referees are aware of them too. Yet Valencia almost never (as in, less than one in a hundred) gets penalised. There's a reason for that and it's not about not being arsed.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I think most of them don't care too much about foul throws if it's "close", and Valencia's are generally usually on the edge, so I think he gets away with it. If it's truly awful then they whistle for them, but all professional footballers do half assed throw ins all the time that probably should be called back.

I think that's it. I've no idea why he takes the risk but it works out ok for him, so it's no big deal. Completely different story if he was getting picked up on it regularly. That really would be stupid.

 

[ivaldo]

I'm aware of the rules. I've player competitive football before. I'm also absolutely certain the referees and assistant referees are aware of them too. Yet Valencia almost never (as in, less than one in a hundred) gets penalised. There's a reason for that and it's not about not being arsed.

Well if you know the rules then you know he's taking throw ins incorrectly. Whether the ref penalises him or not is completely irrelevant.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Well if you know the rules then you know he's taking throw ins incorrectly. Whether the ref penalises him or not is completely irrelevant.

Uh... It's actually completely relevant. It couldn't be more relevant.

 

[kps88]

I can honestly only remember him being blown up once and must have watched him take hundreds of throws by now. Dunno why he does it tbh but the ref lets it go 99.9% of the time, so his technique must be generally ok.

I can't believe you only remember it happening once. It's happened more than that and it's inexcusable.

 

[ivaldo]

Uh... It's actually completely relevant. It couldn't be more relevant.

Uh... No really it doesn't. We aren't discussing the application of the law, we are discussing the law. They are two different things.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Uh... No really it doesn't. We aren't discussing the application of the law, we are discussing the law. They are two different things.

Indeed. One is relevant to events on the pitch, one isn't. Guess which is which?

 

[ivaldo]

Indeed. One is relevant to events on the pitch, one isn't. Guess which is which?

Absolutely, its a shame you seem unable to differentiate between the two.

 

[ZDwyr]

I think it's pretty obvious that refs are either not seeing his foul throws or they just can't be bothered with them unless it is blatant. I've seen a few foul throws not get called in other matches too. Referees just let it slide because it's a relatively minor thing.

 

[Adam-Utd]

Foul throws are the biggest nerd alert in football. You really get very little advantage by lifting a leg or releasing the ball slightly early, the ref's just can't be fussed to pick them up on it. Tbh they might aswell be kick ins!

 

[Eric'sCollar]

Don't know why but feeling a Valencia goal tonight.

 

[paulscholes18]

Don't know why but feeling a Valencia goal tonight.

Would be nice to see, can't remember the last time he scored

 

[Pexbo]

What was he playing at for that goal eh?

 

[ivaldo]

What was he playing at for that goal eh?

Was poor but we still had chances to clear the danger afterwards.

 

[Raoul]

Yes, everything is Valencia's fault.

 

[ivaldo]

Yes, everything is Valencia's fault.

Yes, nothing is Valencia's fault, you can't deny his decision making was poor there, still McNair should've done better.

 

[Raoul]

Yes, nothing is Valencia's fault, you can't deny his decision making was poor there, still McNair should've done better.

Blind and McNair were in the thick of it. Valencia if i recall wasn't even near them. Plus McCarthy was the beneficiary of a lucky bounce and very good finish.

 

[Pexbo]

Yes, everything is Valencia's fault.

I was being facetious

 

[Raoul]

I was being facetious

I knew you were. I was directing my sarcasm at the agenda posters.

 

[ivaldo]

Blind and McNair were in the thick of it. Valencia if i recall wasn't even near them. Plus McCarthy was the beneficiary of a lucky bounce and very good finish.

The reason the counter attack was on was because Valencia stepped forward to try and challenge Lukaku in the air, he was never going to beat him and he was the pace at the back covering. Still, McNair should've made more of his tackle.

He's looked good going forward though, he's actually shaping his crosses now.

 

[DWelbz19]

Offers nothing but to stop time and play as deep as possible

 

[Raoul]

Valencia again ?

 

[Wumminator]

By far and away our weakest player IMO. Not his fault he's not a right back.

 

[ivaldo]

Valencia again ?

let's see the agenda posters defend that.

 

[Bubz27]

Looked every inch a winger trying to mark a centre half there.

 

[Raoul]

let's see the agenda posters defend that.

Apparently Van Gaal has an agenda does he ? Get over it. He could've done better, but it was a sublime header.

 

[rimaldo]

we really need to replace him in the summer. he's found out against every half decent team.

 

[Bubz27]

let's see the agenda posters defend that.

I'd have loved to see Valencia try to defend that.

 

[justboy68]

Hilarious how so many people were oblivious to his pathetic defending tendencies until it is shoved blatantly in our faces. I've never known a player to gift so many goals. Even the clueless posters must be able to catch on after this.

Edit: Okay that outburst was too far but man I am just pissed off at this lot getting the better of us again. Ignore me.

 

[Pexbo]

Looked every inch a winger trying to mark a centre half there.

If only it was Rafael marking him.

 

[DWelbz19]

Even if you take away his pitiful defending, he is absolutely nullifying any pace down the right. Him and Mata are having a competition to see who can slow down play quicker.

 

[Bojan11]

Our weak link.

 

[ivaldo]

Apparently Van Gaal has an agenda does he ? Get over it. He could've done better, but it was a sublime header.

course he doesn't. But apparently having an opinion = having an agenda on here if you criticise the precious Valencia . If he stabbed someone you would say they ran into knife.

 

[Raoul]

course he doesn't. But apparently having an opinion = having an agenda on here if you criticise the precious Valencia . If he stabbed someone you would say they ran into knife.

I like to think of it as supporting our players insteading of the insufferably tedious weekly knee jerking.

 

[ivaldo]

I like to think of it as supporting our players insteading of the insufferably tedious weekly knee jerking.

The fact its weekly is because he's making mistakes weekly. I'd love for him to do well because he's a United player, I haven't anything against him he seems like a genuinely nice bloke but he isn't good enough, I don't find any stock in pretending everything is rosey, or defending him when he makes errors, what's the point in that? I want the best for my team.

 

[Bubz27]

If only it was Rafael marking him.

My gripe with that is the organization. Never mind the fact Stones gets a good 3 or 4 yards of space, why is Stones being marked by a RB anyway?

 

[Joga Bonito]

I'd have loved to see Valencia try to defend that.

 

[Cpt Negative]

He's a liability at the back. He's cost us too many goals this season.

 

[Nighteyes]

The corner was his fault obviously but not the first goal.

 

[Ole's_toe_poke]

I don't why he takes 5 touches on the ball and then makes the obvious pass which he could have done 5 seconds before.