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Antony is bizarre. A winger with no trick, one foot and no pace. Why did ETH buy him?
Everytime he received the ball today he either had an awful first touch and lost it, or passed it to Fulham or took a touch and passed it back 40 yards to Maguire,
Why doesn’t ETH play Mount there for at least one game? I don’t get it?
 

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I remember posting in the thread when we were signing him that he had done nothing to justify his purchase. His goals and assists had come against some of the absolute poorest teams in Europe and his division-he had nothing in his history to show he could beat or even hang with the best. He was injured for a while which probably didn't help when looking at him, but oooft we were done hard on his transfer.
Works hard, cares about the badge and has fight...like hundreds of other players would. Not sure he's good enough for the top half of the championship, nevermind us.
He cannot get round a player, has little pace or acceleration and has one trick. I think players look forward to playing against him as they know its an easier shift.
Still I can't be angry or over disappointed with him though, as it was ETH that got him here. Antony has never played like an £80m player so the fact we made him one isn't his fault.
What other job in the world lets you make an £80m mistake and get away with it?
He may become a better player, but he will never be world beater.
 

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Absolutely appalling player, ignoring the fee, just as a footballer, so limited, isn’t improving, isn’t anything close to providing what is a must in that position at the top level.

If he turns it around here I’ll be astonished.
 

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He better not start for any of the next 5 matches minimum. Utterly pointless player.
 

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Antony tried really hard to avoid getting himself and the ball inside the opponent's penalty box, and it is not wrong to say he succeeded at it in this game. I like his work rate but he is very much opposite to how a United winger usually should be.
 

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One thing he used to do quite well was carry the ball up the pitch and either do well on the counter if he has support or relieve pressure on the defense and midfield. That and his work rate when tracking back is the reason Ten Hag gives him such a long leash. He’s woefully out of confidence and doesn’t look mentally able to handle the pressure that comes with being under investigation for domestic abuse. Ten Hag needs to realize that and take him out of the spotlight for a while.
 

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Another game, another reinforcement of my lack of faith in Ten Hag because jesus christ he spent two years with this clown and thought he was worth spending 80m on. Shocking lack of ability to identify talent/profiles from the guy trying to lead our club.

As for Antony, he legit should be our last choice option on the right.
 

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Vying with Sancho for the title of our worst ever big money signing.

Winning at the moment.
I don't even think it's close. For all of Sancho's struggles you could at LEAST see the talent in glimpses and he did have some very good games for us.

From the first time this clown kicked a ball you were sort of just sitting wondering what he was good at.
 

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He plays like he knows he can't do a single thing one-on-one vs anyone in the PL. He's lost the belief to even attempt it anymore. He gets set upon and swarmed straight into now, as the analysis on him from rival coaches is complete. In other words, he has no more mystique to him and they've sussed out his entire game, habits and tendencies - he's been afforded no respect at all where before the oppo would at least stand off him and let him breathe so long as he didn't try and penetrate.

He's not going to get the over-lapper he needs any time soon and is essentially on his own, which really means he's fecked. Don't know if it matters to the manager. Probably play him regardless.
 

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He is never going to come good like some of our other players. Ten Hag is digging his own grave with this joker.
 

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He plays like he knows he can't do a single thing one-on-one vs anyone in the PL. He's lost the belief to even attempt it anymore. He gets set upon and swarmed straight into now, as the analysis on him from rival coaches is complete. In other words, he has no more mystique to him and they've sussed out his entire game, habits and tendencies - he's been afforded no respect at all where before the oppo would at least stand off him and let him breathe so long as he didn't try and penetrate.

He's not going to get the over-lapper he needs any time soon and is essentially on his own, which really means he's fecked. Don't know if it matters to the manager. Probably play him regardless.
Yep fundamentally he's too slow and weak to go past any defender ever, and too scared of physical contact.

And he knows it.
 

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Abysmal performance. Nearly everything he did was poor, whether it was failing to retain possession, stupid challenges, lazy attempt to stop Willian from cutting inside to shoot, woeful pass when Maguire was off the pitch.
 

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He plays like he knows he can't do a single thing one-on-one vs anyone in the PL. He's lost the belief to even attempt it anymore. He gets set upon and swarmed straight into now, as the analysis on him from rival coaches is complete. In other words, he has no more mystique to him and they've sussed out his entire game, habits and tendencies - he's been afforded no respect at all where before the oppo would at least stand off him and let him breathe so long as he didn't try and penetrate.

He's not going to get the over-lapper he needs any time soon and is essentially on his own, which really means he's fecked. Don't know if it matters to the manager. Probably play him regardless.
Robinson was absolutely disrespecting him today :lol:
 

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He's not gonna get any better, sell him now before his value plummets even further. Wtf were we thinking spending £80m on this nothing player?!
 

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Serious shout for worst signing of all time behind Lukaku and Coutinho. At least those two had some metrics to back up their large fees. This signing made no sense from the start.

I tried to see the positives but he's somehow regressed since last season. What do we do with him now?
Hazard for Madrid, maybe? Again, great metrics there prior to the move though...
 

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Yep fundamentally he's too slow and weak to go past any defender ever, and too scared of physical contact.

And he knows it.
I think he's actually found out the hard way, because he has been trying to go past men, but they ease him off the ball with such casual disdain that it's completely zoinked his belief in himself. When he first came to the league, he was trying all sorts, but bit by bit his game has been stripped away because things just don't work, and also, the sheer speed he is set upon, it genuinely looks like a shock to him. That speed is actually increasing too as the respect for his game diminishes. He gets pretty much bum-rushed now as soon as the ball comes to him. That was not the case last season where he'd be given space to work in and defenders would hold their position rather than pressure. They're not even challenging him for the ball now, just push him off it in various ways and he doesn't have the agility or dribbling to evade it.

It makes it clear he's not a dribbler also, because that would be bread and butter stuff for a dribbler, to use that body weight being pressed into them to their advantage and simply roll their man. Antony can't do that, he doesn't roll anyone in the PL and as a result he has to get rid of the ball pronto.

What really kills things for him is he is so poor at progressive passing. If he could pass and move, he wouldn't have to worry about all this physical contact nulifying him, but he really struggles to play decent, accurate forward passes so he can't get anything going in the tiny window of time he's now given.

Feels like the end game for him, because such a limited player, or at least one so reliant on other factors (over-lapper), should not hold an attacking position with impunity. The league is getting harder for him because of how he's being approached, so I don't know where he can even turn anymore.
 

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One thing he used to do quite well was carry the ball up the pitch and either do well on the counter if he has support or relieve pressure on the defense and midfield. That and his work rate when tracking back is the reason Ten Hag gives him such a long leash. He’s woefully out of confidence and doesn’t look mentally able to handle the pressure that comes with being under investigation for domestic abuse. Ten Hag needs to realize that and take him out of the spotlight for a while.
Yep. While he wasn't 'good' last season, he also wasn't as bad as people make out. Unfortunately he started this season in dreadful form, was just starting to show signs of turning it around when he had to have that break to deal with the issue in Brazil, and since coming back has gone back to being terrible again. With Pellistri impressing today ETH should be looking to take him out of the firing line for a few games.
 

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Today he was piss poor, and he has not been decent in a long time. No idea why ETH keeps starting him. Play Mount there, play Garnacho left, and I am sure we do better
 

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Was always a limited player, you could see that after a few matches. He would not look out of place in Div 1, and that that's an honest assessment. His inclusion in a Manchester Utd First XI is reflective of where we are, and is a reflection of the judgement of ETH.

One of the worst signings I have seen on the Premiership, let alone Man Utd, when you consider his fee.

Sep 2022: Manchester United football director John Murtough added: "Antony is one of the most exciting young talents in European football and has exactly the right profile for the attacking, dynamic team Erik is building.

And by the way, this is interesting. https://www.spotrac.com/epl/manchester-united-fc/payroll/

You know Antony has a five-year contract right? Look at some of those figures. Staggering. This is why Sir Jim Ratcliffe wants control of all matters. I do not blame him. This is why we are in the clueless state we are in John Murtough. Darren Fletcher. Eric Ten Hag. Steve McLaren.
 

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Pellestri and Garnacho
Was always a limited player, you could see that after a few matches. He would not look out of place in Div 1, and that that's an honest assessment. His inclusion in a Manchester Utd First XI is reflective of where we are, and is a reflection of the judgement of ETH.

One of the worst signings I have seen on the Premiership, let alone Man Utd, when you consider his fee.

Sep 2022: Manchester United football director John Murtough added: "Antony is one of the most exciting young talents in European football and has exactly the right profile for the attacking, dynamic team Erik is building.

And by the way, this is interesting. https://www.spotrac.com/epl/manchester-united-fc/payroll/

You know Antony has a five-year contract right? Look at some of those figures. Staggering. This is why Sir Jim Ratcliffe wants control of all matters. I do not blame him. This is why we are in the clueless state we are in John Murtough. Darren Fletcher. Eric Ten Hag. Steve McLaren.
From this list ..top 10...
You can sell all the players other than Bruno and rashford ..
 

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There's just no words he's absolutely dreadful and completely unbalances the team on that right side. He's so 1 footed he actually goes against playing a striker because he's never putting a cross in.

Scary considering he managed him at Ajax and thought he'd be good enough the 2 leagues must be a million miles apart
 

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There's just no words he's absolutely dreadful and completely unbalances the team on that right side. He's so 1 footed he actually goes against playing a striker because he's never putting a cross in.

Scary considering he managed him at Ajax and thought he'd be good enough the 2 leagues must be a million miles apart
He is probably the worst transfer in the clubs history: absolutely insane decision to pay that amount for him. Not Sancho biggest fan but at least he has shown glimpses very few. This guy looks way off it.
 

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If played - I'd like to see him on the left wing, with Garnacho playing on the right. Can't understand why ten Hag isn't even looking at this as an option.
 

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Yeah, he’s terrible. Even when its hard to do a mistake or fcuk up, he somehow finds a way to do it anyways. Our right side is effectively dead, 0 threat offensively. Probably the easiest winger to play against in the entire league.
 

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Dan James is/was better.
Better, cheaper and alot more likeable.
Not that James was good enough for where we want to be, but he would have been a better squad option instead of what we have been dealing with the last years.
 

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Yep. While he wasn't 'good' last season, he also wasn't as bad as people make out. Unfortunately he started this season in dreadful form, was just starting to show signs of turning it around when he had to have that break to deal with the issue in Brazil, and since coming back has gone back to being terrible again. With Pellistri impressing today ETH should be looking to take him out of the firing line for a few games.
I mean he was very bad for an attacker. Just because he didn’t lose the ball much Last season and tracked back doesn’t mean he was decent. He hasn’t scored a goal in the league in a year.
 

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He's a fraud. It's a tough pill to swallow for ETH to acknowledge it was a poor signing, but it's better than wasting anymore time. Not a single premier league club would go for him if he was on a free. He's one of those players that we'll end up loaning a couple of times before losing him for nothing. Criminal waste of money.
 

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Was always a limited player, you could see that after a few matches. He would not look out of place in Div 1, and that that's an honest assessment. His inclusion in a Manchester Utd First XI is reflective of where we are, and is a reflection of the judgement of ETH.

One of the worst signings I have seen on the Premiership, let alone Man Utd, when you consider his fee.

Sep 2022: Manchester United football director John Murtough added: "Antony is one of the most exciting young talents in European football and has exactly the right profile for the attacking, dynamic team Erik is building.

And by the way, this is interesting. https://www.spotrac.com/epl/manchester-united-fc/payroll/

You know Antony has a five-year contract right? Look at some of those figures. Staggering. This is why Sir Jim Ratcliffe wants control of all matters. I do not blame him. This is why we are in the clueless state we are in John Murtough. Darren Fletcher. Eric Ten Hag. Steve McLaren.
Hannibal is on pocket lint / month.