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Such a waste of money. Hopefully, he’ll be displaced by Amad once he returns. Not that I have high hopes for him even. So many young talents come and go after showing early promise. Antony just isn’t the guy.
I mean, look at Ajax now...He's a 40m player at best.
To think that Ajax was desperate to keep him .
I dont think he is a diva? He might have the look or look arrogant but he doesnt play like a diva. He works hard and tracks back the time. That isnt what i associate with a diva.Arrogant and lacks teamwork. He has the diva behaviour, but not the performance.
Correct. He's a fecking abomination that somehow gets handed the RW spot cemented for him.Is it true that he only has 3 PL goal involvements since this time last year? Horrendous if so.
That is a pretty unbelievable stat for a first team man united attacker.Is it true that he only has 3 PL goal involvements since this time last year? Horrendous if so.
Yes he’s fecking shite. Yet brings balance or something.Is it true that he only has 3 PL goal involvements since this time last year? Horrendous if so.
Elanga has 1 goal and 3 assists in 385mins this season. That means in 3 starts and 4.3 games played, he has more assists than Antony since he joined us last season.We sold Elanga because he wasnt good enough, and then we got in someone who might turn out even worse....
I still cannot believe how many of our young players get injured so easily. Amad, Mainoo, malacia even.Such a waste of money. Hopefully, he’ll be displaced by Amad once he returns. Not that I have high hopes for him even. So many young talents come and go after showing early promise. Antony just isn’t the guy.
apparently he was on 20k at Ajax and went straight to 200k here. Mad. Like he wouldn't accept 90?We’ve spent a ridiculous amount of money on players this last decade but something about spending so much on a player like Antony is embarrassing.
He offers nothing, and we’ll be stuck with him for years especially if he is on high wages.
Never meant much. There is a history of dodgy call ups to inflate prices on players ..Guess being in the Brazilian NT doesn’t mean much these days I guess.
Antony is repetitively drilled for the same failings on here when it should already be clear he is heavily dependent on his full-back overlapping. Brazil cater to his game in a manner we don't, ironically enough given the man who knows him better than anyone isn't catering to his game.Guess being in the Brazilian NT doesn’t mean much these days I guess.
This is a good post but he has still under performed at the things he’s expected to do well.Antony is repetitively drilled for the same failings on here when it should already be clear he is heavily dependent on his full-back overlapping. Brazil cater to his game in a manner we don't, ironically enough given the man who knows him better than anyone isn't catering to his game.
It's been discussed here in detail by a number of posters on a number of occasions that he simply lacks the base attributes to thrive as an individual. Lacks: pace, power, ability to pass accurately when running at full speed, so unless his team is massively in control of the game, he struggles because he can't do much as an individual in a position where you're most expected to do things as an individual and bring others into the game - decent wingers drive up the pitch as an outlet ball or outright ball carrier and then do something beneficial to the team with their next action. Antony struggles to do this because he can't pass at pace and doesn't have the strength to tussle nor the top speed to break free, so what are you left with?
It's been a real shambles how we've used him. He's a limited player and that has not been catered for. If we intend to isolate the winger, we should have gone for a proper winger/wing-forward rather than the playmaker type.
We're paying the price for the squad composition. A bunch of parts that don't fit together.
In a way you are right, but then he does the most inexplicable things that have nothing to do with his physical attributes or technical abilities.Antony is repetitively drilled for the same failings on here when it should already be clear he is heavily dependent on his full-back overlapping. Brazil cater to his game in a manner we don't, ironically enough given the man who knows him better than anyone isn't catering to his game.
It's been discussed here in detail by a number of posters on a number of occasions that he simply lacks the base attributes to thrive as an individual. Lacks: pace, power, ability to pass accurately when running at full speed, so unless his team is massively in control of the game, he struggles because he can't do much as an individual in a position where you're most expected to do things as an individual and bring others into the game - decent wingers drive up the pitch as an outlet ball or outright ball carrier and then do something beneficial to the team with their next action. Antony struggles to do this because he can't pass at pace and doesn't have the strength to tussle nor the top speed to break free, so what are you left with?
It's been a real shambles how we've used him. He's a limited player and that has not been catered for. If we intend to isolate the winger, we should have gone for a proper winger/wing-forward rather than the playmaker type.
We're paying the price for the squad composition. A bunch of parts that don't fit together.
Hilarious we saw the Antony transfer and decided to continue to back eth in signing his targets this summerHe was slightly better, but nowhere near Sancho in his Dortmund days.
Look at Antony clips from Ajax and can you really tell a difference to what he's doing now? I can't, not really. He's doing the same things in non functional team and against tougher opposition, so he looks worse. But it's the same player who was at Ajax, what makes this transfer look even worse and in any corporation heads would roll for spending that fee for such a limited player.
This is nothing like Sancho situation though (which is entirely on the player).
He isn't close to being a 40m player. I wouldn't be happy if we signed him for 20m. He barely looks pl standardHe's a 40m player at best.
To think that Ajax was desperate to keep him .
While that is absolutely true, there is another issue. Antony doesnt pass to an overlap. We have seen AwB do some overlapping runs but Antony very rarely if ever chooses to take that pass, instead he steps on the ball and tries to go central, making it way to easy to stop him.It doesn’t matter who we buy, wingers can do only do so much if the fullbacks never overlap or underlap, two weeks ago Mount was screaming at Dalot to overlap, and he still only did it once.. remember Mourinho saying he had to coach Shaw through an entire game? .. Wan Bissaka is more defensive minded too, we just don’t have players who help their wingers.. too many individuals who don’t seem to understand how to create space
Aren't out fullbacks told to tuck in into midfield and support lone #6? At least that's how I understand the setup this season. So I feel it's kind of unfair to expect them to overlap frequently as well?It doesn’t matter who we buy, wingers can do only do so much if the fullbacks never overlap or underlap, two weeks ago Mount was screaming at Dalot to overlap, and he still only did it once.. remember Mourinho saying he had to coach Shaw through an entire game? .. Wan Bissaka is more defensive minded too, we just don’t have players who help their wingers.. too many individuals who don’t seem to understand how to create space
You think this was a scouting recommendation? Come on now.I wonder if the scouting team nowadays accept brown envelopes?
Lovely post and agree with you. But like @Rossa said, there’s been so many times he’s beaten his man but then he stops and slows the game down/looks to come inside or pass back. Maybe if he gets used to Hojlund, this will change but clearly we need a player with his price tag and our first choice right winger to be doing more.Antony is repetitively drilled for the same failings on here when it should already be clear he is heavily dependent on his full-back overlapping. Brazil cater to his game in a manner we don't, ironically enough given the man who knows him better than anyone isn't catering to his game.
It's been discussed here in detail by a number of posters on a number of occasions that he simply lacks the base attributes to thrive as an individual. Lacks: pace, power, ability to pass accurately when running at full speed, so unless his team is massively in control of the game, he struggles because he can't do much as an individual in a position where you're most expected to do things as an individual and bring others into the game - decent wingers drive up the pitch as an outlet ball or outright ball carrier and then do something beneficial to the team with their next action. Antony struggles to do this because he can't pass at pace and doesn't have the strength to tussle nor the top speed to break free, so what are you left with?
It's been a real shambles how we've used him. He's a limited player and that has not been catered for. If we intend to isolate the winger, we should have gone for a proper winger/wing-forward rather than the playmaker type.
We're paying the price for the squad composition. A bunch of parts that don't fit together.
Quite often under ETH our fullbacks have been our most advanced attacking players, but in a central position rather than overlapping. Lindelof was making runs into the box against Sheffield Utd, which is obviously ridiculous. But that said, the winning goal did come from Lindelof squaring the ball to Dalot…Aren't out fullbacks told to tuck in into midfield and support lone #6? At least that's how I understand the setup this season. So I feel it's kind of unfair to expect them to overlap frequently as well?
He's arrogant and thinks nobody has the authority to tell him anything and will become salty with any of his team mates, with the exception of ETH and his staff.I dont think he is a diva? He might have the look or look arrogant but he doesnt play like a diva. He works hard and tracks back the time. That isnt what i associate with a diva.
Diva's are usually talented lazy players. I dont think anyone has ever described Antony as talented and lazy.
Its honestly borderline insanity that ETH sanctioned this move. It shows the selfishness of managers like him because im sure he just said “F it, its not my money”Starting to wonder what ETH saw at Ajax considering his right foot is for standing only