Ivan Gazidis maintains its a good window, arsenal have strengthened.
Its rubbing salt on the wounds of @Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87?
Its rubbing salt on the wounds of @Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87?
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If anyone needs to get the first hit it is the man responsible for Wenger's contract extension. Stan Kroenke. Rewarding fraud with an 8.9m contract. My Arsenal mates say that he is the main reason Wenger is staying on and Gazidis and many on the board wanted Wenger gone.Hopefully gazidis takes first hit, the lying bum mentioned we had 200 mil cash reserves when season finished only 2 months ago, which was around the time season ticket renewals were ongoing and now that it is all finished, we suddenly have no money.
The Liverpool game was a real eye opener? What was he doing during the 8-2 game? The 6-0 v Chelsea, 5-1 vs Liverpool and all the other shockers over the last 11/12 years at least?
Heres a question, can anyone pinpoint the exact moment/event that started Arsenals downfall? Was trying to think how long the issues have been going on for my comment above and cant actually remember when things started going to shit for them.
So we want to renew their contracts, but let Ozil and Sanchez leave. Of course, Walcott knows no one wants him so he is happy to stay at Arsenal.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...lks-key-players-aim-avoid-another-unsettling/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...lks-key-players-aim-avoid-another-unsettling/
Of course, we have kept both Sanchez and Ozil. It doesn't matter if they are unhappy.
ThisThe Liverpool game was a real eye opener? What was he doing during the 8-2 game? The 6-0 v Chelsea, 5-1 vs Liverpool and all the other shockers over the last 11/12 years at least?
Heres a question, can anyone pinpoint the exact moment/event that started Arsenals downfall? Was trying to think how long the issues have been going on for my comment above and cant actually remember when things started going to shit for them.
Having a couple of howlers each year against the other top sides is one thing, but their trophy haul the last decade or so speaks for itself
The moment Gallas broke down on the pitch.The Liverpool game was a real eye opener? What was he doing during the 8-2 game? The 6-0 v Chelsea, 5-1 vs Liverpool and all the other shockers over the last 11/12 years at least?
Heres a question, can anyone pinpoint the exact moment/event that started Arsenals downfall? Was trying to think how long the issues have been going on for my comment above and cant actually remember when things started going to shit for them.
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Good shout, they were serious contenders that season until that and the defeat at Old Trafford.
Last season plus what has been going on since pre-season til now for Arsenal got me thinking - As a fan of UTD, it is easy for me to just say "#WengerIN LOL", but if I'm being totally honest, I've come to realized that I still want Wenger In, EVEN when considering what's best for the club. And that thinking actually baffled myself at first.
Seeing the kind of owner Arsenal got, I think it is clear that the club is doomed under them. Arsenal won't win the league or the UCL as long as that pathetic board of theirs stay the same. So if you put yourself in the shoes of Wenger, when you contemplate whether it really is time for you to leave, seeing how you've finally failed to get top 4, or should you sign that 2 year contract? I would have signed it, for the sake of the club. Because who on earth right now would be able to keep Arsenal competitive, at least for top 4 race? No manager would come to Arsenal right now, see the strict limits on transfers and wages, then turn around and see the ambitions of the fans and think Arsenal is a worthy project to get themselves invested into. None of them would love Arsenal as much as Wenger, I mean he's probably the only manager who would suffer and struggle with the club, fight for it for as long as he could. Other managers? They would have jump ship within 2 years, lose all motivation to elevate the players, rebuild the coaching teams, the scouting network, etc. Just get themselves sacked or leave at the end of the contract and find a new club. Causing instability, lack of continuity in the club, and things are just going get worst.
I think it is because how much power and how much history Wenger has with the club that Arsenal managed to stay top 4 for so long. Because I think now it is clear that it wasn't all Wenger who wouldn't want to spend, but the board are the ones who refused to spend.
So maybe I'm insane to think this, and trust me I'm still questioning himself as I type this, but Wenger staying might actually be the only thing keeping Arsenal from falling further down the pecking order. That is not to say he's done a wonderful job ever since the Invincibles, I'm just saying no one else could come in right now and do a better job over a few years span.
Seeing the kind of owner Arsenal got, I think it is clear that the club is doomed under them. Arsenal won't win the league or the UCL as long as that pathetic board of theirs stay the same. So if you put yourself in the shoes of Wenger, when you contemplate whether it really is time for you to leave, seeing how you've finally failed to get top 4, or should you sign that 2 year contract? I would have signed it, for the sake of the club. Because who on earth right now would be able to keep Arsenal competitive, at least for top 4 race? No manager would come to Arsenal right now, see the strict limits on transfers and wages, then turn around and see the ambitions of the fans and think Arsenal is a worthy project to get themselves invested into. None of them would love Arsenal as much as Wenger, I mean he's probably the only manager who would suffer and struggle with the club, fight for it for as long as he could. Other managers? They would have jump ship within 2 years, lose all motivation to elevate the players, rebuild the coaching teams, the scouting network, etc. Just get themselves sacked or leave at the end of the contract and find a new club. Causing instability, lack of continuity in the club, and things are just going get worst.
I think it is because how much power and how much history Wenger has with the club that Arsenal managed to stay top 4 for so long. Because I think now it is clear that it wasn't all Wenger who wouldn't want to spend, but the board are the ones who refused to spend.
So maybe I'm insane to think this, and trust me I'm still questioning himself as I type this, but Wenger staying might actually be the only thing keeping Arsenal from falling further down the pecking order. That is not to say he's done a wonderful job ever since the Invincibles, I'm just saying no one else could come in right now and do a better job over a few years span.
You was never going to lose Ozil though, which big club would buy him? I cant honestly think of any that have a use for him for his wages.
Whilst you may have kept sanchez he was a one man army last year and without him I actually feel you would've finished a lot lower, he wont hit anywhere near that level of performance again, so I think it will matter.
If you just look at the team and ignore all other drama surrounding the club, they have actually improved from last year. They have a good striker and left back now.
Cech
Bellerin Koscielny Mustafi Kolasinac
Xhaka Ramsey
Walcott Ozil Sanchez
Lacazette
Against tough opponents, they can play 3 in the midfield with either Coquelin or Elneny. The manager has just failed to lift the players and now is stuck with some really unhappy ones. Bellerin Koscielny Mustafi Kolasinac
Xhaka Ramsey
Walcott Ozil Sanchez
Lacazette
Using Leicester as an example
Yeah they have improved, retained Sanchez and Ozil, added Lacazette and LB. They haven't lost any key players, so they have improved.
This just doesn't work.
On paper agreed.
But in reality Bellerin has been on a massive decline since last season and hasn't played well for quite some time, Mustafi has just asked to leave the club, thought he would get his move and didn't and will now be unhappy. I would argue that Kos might start to (slightly) decline this year compared to his performances the last few years.
Sanchez wont perform at the same level of last year and Ramsey, Xhaka combo is truly quite horrendous.
So all the players who wanted to leave but couldn't would be unhappy and won't play to their best? I think you have made lot of assumptions and worst case scenarios for everything related to Arsenal.
Xhaka was supposed to be a DM. I don't know what he is now! Maybe Ramsey can be switched for Elneny or Coquelin to give them more defensive cover in midfield.
I know. There is a good chance that many might underperform. But with the world cup coming up, the players can't afford to slack. Even if not for Arsenal, they'll have to raise their game to earn a spot in their national team.
When you say "all" I referred to 2 in Mustafi & Sanchez and yes I don't see Sanchez achieving 20G and 10A (or whatever his stats where last year) again this year in a team he really doesn't want to be there and may even be signed to city on a pre in January.
Don't think its a stretch to see that happiness and motivation affect players form.
Lol point is everyone up there needs to get slapped out the club.
Eye-opener as in he finally realised he's got a few passengers in the team that don't give a shit. But yea I can see where you're coming fromThe Liverpool game was a real eye opener? What was he doing during the 8-2 game? The 6-0 v Chelsea, 5-1 vs Liverpool and all the other shockers over the last 11/12 years at least?
Heres a question, can anyone pinpoint the exact moment/event that started Arsenals downfall? Was trying to think how long the issues have been going on for my comment above and cant actually remember when things started going to shit for them.
Yea we were a few points ahead in 2008 and were favourites to win it until that birmingham cnut chopped Eduardo leg in half. Bunch of kids watching that, got mentally scarred and downed tools probably thinking they might be next.
Walcott? Absolutely not. I think Iwobi should be given another chance. He is still young and his dip in form last year could happen.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...enger-wants-Champions-League-return-four.html
Wenger already having excuse for getting knocked out of Europa
Wenger already having excuse for getting knocked out of Europa
Christ! We finally a good chance to win an european trophy and he doesn't want to take it?
Not a surprise. Knew that Wenger would prefer a non-existent fourth place trophy over the real thing for CL qualification.
I also find it a bit amusing that Wenger denies that Thursday matches affect the recovery for weekend matches. He also proceeds to say that the fatigues of the Thursday match is all in the head or something of that sort. Psychologist!!!
He is really devoided of any ambition.
Random bump... any updates on Santi Cazorla? Saw his name mentioned in an article and wonder what the injury situation is for him. Liked watching him.
No, as plantaris injury is bastard. I fear he is not gonna recover completely.
I fear he has become another Rosicky.
Unfortunate for sure. Thanks fellas
I read he wants to play, but like you said, 10 months without a single game are too much.I have the same injury as Santi 5 years ago, never been able to recover fully from it. He's showing that he is ready to play again and targeted the 2nd half of the season, but 10 months away from the game....
It's easy to be too positive about the impact an injured player might have had, ignoring likely dips in form, but I'm pretty sure that with a healthy Cazorla over the last two seasons Arsenal would have been closer to Leicester for the title (at least) and still be in the Champions League.
Giroud scored his 100th goal for Arsenal yesterday (in one game fewer than RVP, apparently).
Wenger on Giroud:
http://news.arseblog.com/2017/09/wenger-on-giroud-as-he-becomes-an-arsenal-centurion/
and Walcott on why he didn't take the penalty:
http://news.arseblog.com/2017/09/walcott-i-could-have-taken-penalty-but-left-it-to-giroud/
Giroud scored his 100th goal for Arsenal yesterday (in one game fewer than RVP, apparently).
Wenger on Giroud:
http://news.arseblog.com/2017/09/wenger-on-giroud-as-he-becomes-an-arsenal-centurion/
and Walcott on why he didn't take the penalty:
http://news.arseblog.com/2017/09/walcott-i-could-have-taken-penalty-but-left-it-to-giroud/
Wish Giroud left. Would have weakened them so much.
31 of those 100 are headed goals
You can criticize him, but he always does his job well. Best impact sub in the league.
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Wont win the league again while Wenger is there. Ozil and/or Sanchez gone next summer.
Fair play for getting 40m for OX though, what a outstanding bit of business. Liverpool fans celebrating at the time probably looking for the receipt now
Fair play for getting 40m for OX though, what a outstanding bit of business. Liverpool fans celebrating at the time probably looking for the receipt now
There is no guarantee we will win the league with an other coach. There are to many good teams, which can invest how much they want (City, United, Chelsea). Finish the league above Liverpool and Tottenham is more realistic and should be the goal. Everything else is bonus.