Backtracking? Are you some sort of clown? I'm vehemently solidifying my position on the discussion. If to be screwed means to be fecked and they both describe a sexual act and we're correlating it with a bad experience, we're insinuating that said sexual act is unwanted....what does that suggest? You're screwed, you're fecked,you're buggered all common sayings all mean the same thing and all imply an unwanted sexual act....therefore a rape analogy. Game. Set. Match. Run along.
It's not what it actually means in vernacular English, though. Whether people find a term upsetting or offensive (or what have you) often comes down to how far removed it is from its original, literal meaning.
You are incredibly irritating to discuss with. Can you not manage to string together a few posts without coming off so condescending? It's even more irritating because when people are condescending at least they are usually right. There is just no way that "screwed over means exactly the same thing as raped". I can only assume that you have backed yourself into a corner and don't want to back down, which explains why not only has no one else in this thread backed you up on the supposedly obvious synonyms, you also haven't posted a source to support your claim. In which case, I'm going to log off and do literally anything other than this.
Loser always walks away first. Bye bye, clown.
Great thread though, really enjoyed it. Twitter is screwed.
It's would be an easy Alexey.
The Don vs Eboue would make a crackin Xtranormal video.
You'd be buggered.
If I had known, I wouldn't have pulled my punches.
Men can get raped too... as Brazil found out1. All for it. I think certain sections take it too far. For me feminism is about gender equality, not supremacy.
What a fecking ignorant thing to say.Its totally okay to say ''murder'' in football terms.. but no, never rape #feminism
Spot on.
Yep. Can't say I agree with The Don at all on this one. And I love him. This was like watching my football club lose a game.
Love you too, man. I'm sorry I remind you of Porto, that's horrible.
A concern of which there is no basis. People have been using crude metaphors for thousands of years, and if anything the public opposition towards criminal and violent acts have only become stronger. At the same time the standard of decency in language has become much deteriorated. So either there is no correlation, or the correlation is a good one.
You mean it was like watching your team being ra...vaged?
Maybe people have been using crude metaphors for thousands of years but for thousands of years, raping people was hardly frowned upon in a lot of cultures. The standard of decency isn't really any different its just the age of people using these words because of overexposure on the internet, case in point - this exact situation - the world cup. 9 year old have phones now, and when a 9 year old boy goes on twitter and sees "man Germany totally raped the shit out of Brazil today" they think its awesome and they will continue to use rape in common practice. Thats not right.
My lovely bride asks me to screw her and feck her quite often...as far as I know it is a wanted sexual act.
If someone that eats a chocolate bar a day is losing weight then clearly the chocolate bar contains no calories or it has negative calories.
I think he raises a good point. What he means is that there's no basis to believing that those 9 year olds using the word rape in common practice will mean they will be more insensitive to the actual rape subject, or that it will make the word lose it's significance when used in it's original context. It makes perfect sense for me.
That may be so, but i don't think that rape being part of the child's vernacular for humour's sake is right. Rape should be a word thats frowned upon, not chuckled at. The connotations of the word are and should always be bad. Making light of them only makes rape a less serious instance.
My bad, I missed it completely.
Not maybe, they have. We have books. Yet our reactions to rape is at an all time high. Curiously murder have become more lenient with the justice system, but paralleling rape when it comes to public opinion.
Wow you certainly raped my argument
I don't like it either, and have no problem with places like internet forums, or child educators setting standards for what kind of words should be seen as appropriate or not. I just disagree with your last affirmation. I don't think the word gaining some sort of double-entendre will make rape a less serious instance. With time it can actually come to have two different meanings and people will always be able to distinguish the issues, much like no one ever confounds when screwed is used in a sexual manner or in a "got one over me" manner.
The difference there is that neither meaning is offensive, because consensual sex is awesome therefore getting screwed out of a job, for example, is less damning to say.
That's redundant, because I agree rape can be an offensive word, have agreed it's inelegant, and would certainly educate my kid not to use it lightly. However, that's where it ends. Our disagreement isn't with the offensiveness of the word, but rather with my conviction that it's a huge leap to go from there to suggesting that it will make rape a trivial subject in our society, or hamper our fight against it. I would need a lot more stronger arguments than the speculation presented throughout this thread to even entertain that idea.
