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Ballon d'Or 2021: more interesting than usual?
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Its also because he's far and away their best player. Both key playmaker and goalscorer.
Yep, it really is that simple.
Suspect Argentina might win the Copa America which would likely tip the balance between Messi and Lewa.
If Argentina wins it, it will go to Messi for sure. I have zero doubts about that.
Sure but Ronaldo still have most of the big all time records, he broke quite a few this year too, so there will always be some room for debate.
On team achievements, it will be Euro vs Copa, 5 CL vs 3 or 4 CL, 7 league titles vs 10 league titles. It will be very close.
On individual achievements, it will be 7-5 Ballon D’or, and all time career/international/CL/Euro goal record vs most goal in a season/most goal for single club/most assist etc. Very close too considering Messi has more Ballon D’ors and Ronaldo has more all time big records.
I actually wish Messi finally winning Copa this year. He deserves winning something for his country.
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It only took a few games for Modric to win it in 18, as he wasn’t even being mentioned as top 5 contenders prior to that few games. In that sense, Kane is far more worthy winner than Modric, if he leads England to Euro glory.
Lewandowski should be given it on account of him being robbed last year. Messi will likely win in this year if Argentina win the CdA, but outside of that his Barca team have been pretty naff this season.
Messi if he wins the CA, Kane if England wins the Euro and he performs well
If neither happens Lewa
Can't see any other possible winners
If neither happens Lewa
Can't see any other possible winners
I can't see Argentina beating Brazil in the CA final when Brazil have home advantage. Fred and Casemiro playing well together in midfield.
I'd like to see Kane win it if he scores in Euro final and England win it.
I'd like to see Kane win it if he scores in Euro final and England win it.
Argentina should first win against Colombia, before even thinking of final vs Brazil
Nice to hear that from you. Part of me actually wishes he wins too. I think Ronaldo has done enough to leave interrogation marks forever and ever and the debate will be endless at this point, I think it's clear both of them have more than cemented their legacy in world football at this point.
And while I personally believe Ronaldo has faired a bit better with the national team than Messi, I've started watching Argentina since 2016 and it really irks me some people truly think he's awful for Argentina. While it's true I've seen my fair share of bad games from him, and we all know about the missed penalties and all, I have no doubt in my mind he's just so far ahead of everyone else playing alongside him. And unfortunately I think the only way people can change their minds is if he actually wins a Copa so I'm kinda rooting for him too. Truth is for the last 5 years I've seen him play for Argentina, he's pretty much their top guy whenever they win or lose.
Ballon Dor wrapped up for Messi then.
Good tournament, but he didnt really do anything in the final.
Good tournament, but he didnt really do anything in the final.
Messi to win it.
Hopefully Messi wins it, now that one more nonsense criteria is ticked.
Him and Lewa are the best players this year.
Him and Lewa are the best players this year.
Has to be Messi. Excellent during the season as usual and easily the best player at the Copas which they finally won.
A Copa America win, finishing top goalscorer and top assister. 9 goal contributions in total, next best in second is 4.
A quiet final or not, he galvanised this Argentine team this tournament and will deservedly be heavily considered for the Ballon d'Or now.
A quiet final or not, he galvanised this Argentine team this tournament and will deservedly be heavily considered for the Ballon d'Or now.
Lewandowski clearly with the best individual performance last season.
And the Ballon D'or robbed the season before, so it would be pretty deserved.
And the Ballon D'or robbed the season before, so it would be pretty deserved.
He should win Ballon D'or this year. Winning Copa as top goalscorer/assist is huge, even though he has a quiet game in final. Before the tournament he was close 2nd to Lewandowski anyway, I just don't see anyone beating him this year.
They shouldn’t rob Messi this year because they robbed Lewandowski last year.
Just give Lewandowski the ballon d’or for 2020 and then award this year’s as normal.
Messi’s triumph with Argentina will be too much to handle. That narrative has been a long time coming.
Clearly the best player in that tournament with 4 goals and 5 assists. That’s enough for Topscoring award and the Player of the tournament award (co-won with Neymar).
Won the Spanish cup with Barca, which won’t mean much... EXCEPT people cannot say he didn’t win anything with Barca this year!
Topscorer in the league of course!
Also has at worst the 2nd best statistic output (goals + assists) in this calendar year 2021 so far.
Clearly the best player in that tournament with 4 goals and 5 assists. That’s enough for Topscoring award and the Player of the tournament award (co-won with Neymar).
Won the Spanish cup with Barca, which won’t mean much... EXCEPT people cannot say he didn’t win anything with Barca this year!
Topscorer in the league of course!
Also has at worst the 2nd best statistic output (goals + assists) in this calendar year 2021 so far.
Easily Messi now for 2021. Not even close.
I do agree though that Lewandowski should still be given last years award. Robbed.
I do agree though that Lewandowski should still be given last years award. Robbed.
Lewa should in retrospect get the 2020 Ballon D'Or.
Still don't get why they didn't handle the awards virtually.
Messi easily the favorite for 2021 presuming he doesn't get off to a horror start next season.
Still don't get why they didn't handle the awards virtually.
Messi easily the favorite for 2021 presuming he doesn't get off to a horror start next season.
Messi for sure, now.
The top three will be in this order:
Messi > Lewandowski > Kante
Messi > Lewandowski > Kante
Every match is also focused on Ronaldo, Neymar, Mbappe etc. How many MOTM awards did they win this year? I'm pretty sure Messi won more than all of the 3 combined and this has been true through out his career.
Infact, when I used to follow player ratings when Messi/Ronaldo were at their peak, it was very rare for Messi to get anything less than 8/10. Ronaldo on the other hand had a performances where even with his goal/goals would get less.
The level of consistency in individual performonance (not only goals) by Messi is probably unparalleled and when you combine that with an extremely high ceiling (otherworldly ability), you have THE GOAT.
3/5 not bad.Imagine if Atletico win La Liga, Lille win Ligue 1, Chelsea win the CL, Germany win the Euros and Brazil win the Copa. It's gonna be impossible to declare a definite Ballon d'Or winner
No they won’t
UEFA will have there usuall golden boy to have a shout , Messi or Ronaldo should be nowhere near it, but they will. Most popular player gets it not the best one.
Kante missed I think because of round of 16 elimination of france. Now if England wins messi,Kane,lewa in that order.If Italy wins messi,lewa,jorginho in that order.
Why they should not be anywhere near in an individual award when both were the top scorers of their league and also their country's international tournament(in Messi's case Golden ball too)?
Messi should have like 5 more.
what an incredibly moronic take. Messi absolutely deserves it going by the calendar year. More MOTM awards than anyone else and greatest tourney in Copa history by an individual player.
Messi will no doubt get it. He would have got it without winning Copa but this cemented it. I think he would have also got it last year but it’s a shame Lewandowski couldn’t get close for the last 3 years which he has been so immense for.
So Harry Kane(if England wins the euros), Messi or Lewa? I think apart from Messi's lack of scoring in the big games in La liga there is also a fatigue of Messi winning it.
A lot will also depend on who is firing on all cylinders come the new season. If Messi starts the season strongly until the votes are done then it'll be a wrap
messi has comfortably been the best player in the calendar year of 2021
Messi broke his leg and didn't play for a season they still give it to him. They guys the pin up for UEFA. Wonder who's going to be the next one.????
Jorginho