Yeah , great meeting that will be.ShambolicTweet
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What the hell are they playing at. How are we supposed to trust these people?ShambolicTweet
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We left sense behind months ago.Nothing is making sense!!!!
33We left sense behind months ago.
about that.
Guys like @Dobba are going to have to explain his 4d chess to me... Because I ain't getting it.Wonder if Corbyn will have the balls to sack them ... Hes clearly got no intention of ever backing a second referendum no matter what the membership voted for
Hi Guy, nice to see you on the caf.This isn't 4D chess, it's like watching a bunch of drunk guys playing fecking jenga. with their feet. blindfolded.
Wish I had his paycheckHi Guy, nice to see you on the caf.
I liked the analogy I think I saw on here along the lines of "two guys in a bar arguing over how best to push open a door with 'pull' over the handle".This isn't 4D chess, it's like watching a bunch of drunk guys playing fecking jenga. with their feet. blindfolded.
While someone is on the other side of the door yelling at them to pull.I liked the analogy I think I saw on here along the lines of "two guys in a bar arguing over how best to push open a door with 'pull' over the handle".
Or better yet leave the fecking thing shut, it's a fire door with a blaze on the other side.While someone is on the other side of the door yelling at them to pull.
Sounds too much like common sense too me. Tut tut.It's about time for a change, no more of these assholes who role out of university, into some cushy little research job mummy.or daddy sorted for them then into politics
The people running the country should have actually done something in life. Worked their way up a career ladder not involved in politics, run a business (not just sat on the board of directors)
Put a former doctor in charge of the NHS, an account in charge of the excheqor etc. And send these inbred halfwits back to their country estates out of the way. Or give them a nice wall to lean against, a cigarette and a blindfold.
Wonder if Corbyn will have the balls to sack them ... Hes clearly got no intention of ever backing a second referendum no matter what the membership voted for
It's such a shame that Benn's amendment lost so narrowly. That would have taken the impetus right away from yet another presentation of May's deal. We might have actually seem some effective cross-party working, rather than in-party wrecking.
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He'll twist and turn as long as possible to avoid one, that's for sure.Wonder if Corbyn will have the balls to sack them ... Hes clearly got no intention of ever backing a second referendum no matter what the membership voted for
That's the key word, we need a party based on common sense and decency!!Sounds too much like common sense too me. Tut tut.
There isn't a delay yet, the UK government have got to convince the EU that they are seriously going to decide what they want (probably before next Thursday)Sorry for my ignorance but what does that delay now mean?
I've been saying this for a while. Career politicians needs to stop.It's about time for a change, no more of these assholes who role out of university, into some cushy little research job mummy.or daddy sorted for them then into politics
The people running the country should have actually done something in life. Worked their way up a career ladder not involved in politics, run a business (not just sat on the board of directors)
Put a former doctor in charge of the NHS, an account in charge of the excheqor etc. And send these inbred halfwits back to their country estates out of the way. Or give them a nice wall to lean against, a cigarette and a blindfold.
What makes it worse it only lost by 2 votes and 6 Labour MPs voted against it.It's such a shame that Benn's amendment lost so narrowly. That would have taken the impetus right away from yet another presentation of May's deal. We might have actually seem some effective cross-party working, rather than in-party wrecking.
Usually the government sets the motions and business off the house, the amendment would have allowed ministers of any party to table a motion to be voted on e.g norway +, second ref or whatever.What would actually happen if Benns amendment passed?
YesNot really. I am not brilliant at politics. Are we coming out or staying in?
I've tried to imagine how Benn's amendment would have worked as well. I'm guessing any member could put forward a motion, but then the speaker would decide which to proceed with. Wow, the speaker would have a hell of a lot of power there. Know I might be wrong though.Usually the government sets the motions and business off the house, the amendment would have allowed ministers of any party to table a motion to be voted on e.g norway +, second ref or whatever.
It's why calls from the gov and commentators for MPs to input and do more is just guff. They simply can't unless the government provide the time for them to do so and they refuse to.
I think ordinarily preference is given to the following criteriaI've tried to imagine how Benn's amendment would have worked as well. I'm guessing any member could put forward a motion, but then the speaker would decide which to proceed with. Wow, the speaker would have a hell of a lot of power there. Know I might be wrong though.
Gwynne's Twitter says he was paired, as it happens. I'm surprised it didn't get a majority- it sends a poor message outwith the UK about MPs' willingness to work co-operatively in this situation.The closeness of the Benn vote is even more galling when you look deeper, one abstention was from Jared O'Mara (suspended from Labour, took Clegg's seat in 2017, who would've been for), another from Andrew Gwynne (who couldn't vote due to a family emergency, for which proxy votes aren't allowed) and another from Fiona Onasanya (nuff said).
Indeed loose meaningful vote 3 next week... Off to see the EU leaders on Wednesday / Thursday.Gwynne's Twitter says he was paired, as it happens. I'm surprised it didn't get a majority- it sends a poor message outwith the UK about MPs' willingness to work co-operatively in this situation.
We all know what Mrs May intends to do, she's banking on getting her way at the very last moment. It's like some awful game of chicken.
Absolutely, bunch of lazy arrogant entitled elitist crusty out of touch delusional pricks who think they are our rulers rather than our servants.I've been saying this for a while. Career politicians needs to stop.
Still no assurance that Bercow will allow MV3 let alone 4.Indeed loose meaningful vote 3 next week... Off to see the EU leaders on Wednesday / Thursday.
Offer / threaten a long extension and on Friday announce meaningful vote 4... Probably Wednesday night... Something like 40 hours before no deal happens by default
To be fair it's her only hope of getting her deal through and it might happen
Not surprising, the mans a cnut.The closeness of the Benn vote is even more galling when you look deeper, one abstention was from Jared O'Mara (suspended from Labour, took Clegg's seat in 2017, who would've been for), another from Andrew Gwynne (who couldn't vote due to a family emergency, for which proxy votes aren't allowed) and another from Fiona Onasanya (nuff said).