What's that string supposed to do anyway?
Picture circulating my work on the railway
What's that string supposed to do anyway?
Picture circulating my work on the railway
I managed it once and have been unable to repeat the feat since.
Clearly a young man’s game. Us gammons need to rely on the written word.I managed it once and have been unable to repeat the feat since.
You are rather optimistic that the UK would have decided what it wants and is actually feasible by 2027.My initial idea of 2027 doesn't sound that crazy anymore. I thought that the UK and the EU needed to make the all thing as painless as possible and that the best way to do it was to set the No Deal deadline after the next EU budget period by 2027 everyone will know where it stands and how to move forward.
Getting a silly tagline for helping an old fart
That is surprising, I would have thought the last thing the EU wants is the UK involved in its forthcoming elections. It would be like going looking for a gas leak with a naked flame.The Brexit rapporteur for German chancellor Angela Merkel’s CDU party has urged UK politicians not to cause a no-deal Brexit by accident, the Press Association reports. Detlef Seif said:
"The discussion in the United Kingdom has created the impression that a lot of options for action are possible. But only three options exist: To agree to the deal that is on the table, to revoke the withdrawal notification, or to delay the exiting day.
We must urge our British friends that a delay is only possible if the UK takes part in the European parliament elections."
This is easy for them though, as their position on this is the same as their position on everything else. No.Say what you like about the DUP, and many people have , but at least they have stuck to a position rather than flip flopping around every day, for political gain. Not many seem to agree with their principles, but at least they have some.
I think he is just making sure that people are aware of the ramifications of a long delay. Nothing new.That is surprising, I would have thought the last thing the EU wants is the UK involved in its forthcoming elections. It would be like going looking for a gas leak with a naked flame.
I've stopped listening to the EU leaders, they're trying to be seen as supportive of a fellow leader but from the mixed messages it's clear they want a soft brexit instead.The Brexit rapporteur for German chancellor Angela Merkel’s CDU party has urged UK politicians not to cause a no-deal Brexit by accident, the Press Association reports. Detlef Seif said:
"The discussion in the United Kingdom has created the impression that a lot of options for action are possible. But only three options exist: To agree to the deal that is on the table, to revoke the withdrawal notification, or to delay the exiting day.
We must urge our British friends that a delay is only possible if the UK takes part in the European parliament elections."
Yes but if the UK completely change their stance then it's going to take a lot longer.That is surprising, I would have thought the last thing the EU wants is the UK involved in its forthcoming elections. It would be like going looking for a gas leak with a naked flame.
Changing is an option but there is still only one withdrawal agreement even if the political declaration is changed. If for example the UK suddenly said, OK we'll have a BINO and stay in the CU and SM the WA would have to be rewritten but there's nothing in parliament that is suggesting that at all.I've stopped listening to the EU leaders, they're trying to be seen as supportive of a fellow leader but from the mixed messages it's clear they want a soft brexit instead.
The EU insisted the political declaration was part of the package approved so when they send these messages out they can't pretend changing it isn't an option. We know it is
Yes that's true, but we've been in the 'Groundhog day' mode so long now I can't see anything changing until either the No deal kicks in or there is a revocation of A50 and both seem as equally unlikely now after yesterdays pantomime.Yes but if the UK completely change their stance then it's going to take a lot longer.
Looks that way at the moment. Nothing on the horizon seems to suggest that's going to change.Yes that's true, but we've been in the 'Groundhog day' mode so long now I can't see anything changing until either the No deal kicks in or there is a revocation of A50 and both seem as equally unlikely now after yesterdays pantomime.
Metal wire connecting the 2 rails will appear as if there is a train present and stop other trains being able to runWhat's that string supposed to do anyway?
Jokes on them. Our trains don’t run anyway.Metal wire connecting the 2 rails will appear as if there is a train present and stop other trains being able to run
You realise Dunkirk was a retreat? Also why the feck would Ireland leave the EU and why on earth do you think they should be put in that position because of something GB voted for (and NI voted against)? Bloody hell.I don't think it's a good idea to keep dragging this problem forever. It's unfair on an entire continent that deserves to move on rather then keep being linked to the hip with an unreliable partner who secretly wants the EU to collapse
I also believe that once reality start biting the spirit of Dunkirk will kick in and the UK will be rowing back to safety (in the EU) Which means a no deal Brexit will be short lived
There again I respect Irelands decision to leave the EU if it feels that the GFA is more important then EU membership
Throughout my short stay in the UK I voted for the staunchest Remainer parties there was available and in favour of remain. So I guess I care about the Irish border more then the majority of British people and a big chunk of the Northern Irish who still keep the DUP in control
Having said that we live in dangerous times. Our borders are threatened by Russia, the US president openly hates the EU and populism is raising its ugly head almost everywhere in the world. Thus the last thing the EU needs is to allow an unreliable member who hates the EU and is master in the divide and rule tactics to retain its membership and therefore its VETO. The EU is in dire need of reform which include more integration in issues such as security. We can't and we shouldn't keep a country who would probably sell us down the river either to try and appease Trump or just because it can.
I am not against a deal quite the contrary. However its evident that the UK doesn't want one. They dragged their feet throughout the past 2 years and when they finally agreed on a deal they couldn't pass it through parliament because of something they wanted in the first place (the backstop). So seriously, should we risk ruining the EU project, the same EU project that made Europe prosperous and peaceful for decades for some pipe dream?
PS I am not against offering some sort of temporary deal that safeguard the GFA up until we can agree a more permanent deal (the WA is all about that) However we simply can't allow such unreliable partner to retain its veto and to represent himself in the EU parliament. That would be madness.
@pocco
If I hated the British then I would have voted for Brexit as that was the surest way to damage the UK in numerous ways. Which isn't the case. However please understand that I am in no mood to see my country and the majority of Europe being dragged into chaos because of the clowns you voted in at Westminster.
Most people who voted for Brexit had no clue about the GFA.Whoever voted for Brexit knew that the GFA would be at risk and those who insist on a no deal Brexit including those who voted against removing a no deal Brexit off the table simply do not care about the GFA at all. The same can be said about those who are voting against the WA which seem to be one of the very few viable ways for the UK to leave the EU in an orderly manner and in total respect of the GFA.
And most still don't to be honestMost people who voted for Brexit had no clue about the GFA.
Cheers. That's almost terrorism.Metal wire connecting the 2 rails will appear as if there is a train present and stop other trains being able to run
My guess, the government take it as passing the entire thing and give approval to the EU. Not sure if they can but I'd bet that's what they'll do.From what I'm reading this vote tomorrow would simply be to decide whether leaving with a WA is the new default position?
If that's the case then what happens if the government brings back the same deal for a third meaningful vote? The Speaker has already said that May can't put the exact same deal back in for a third vote if there's no drastic changes to it so what? The government votes in favour of leaving with a WA as the default but there's no WA available to actually go for?
I’d say it is.Cheers. That's almost terrorism.
Yeah it would be sorted pretty quickly, but if it happened all over the place, constantly it would be a bit of a nightmareCheers. That's almost terrorism.
I know hence why the comment. Ie backpaddling back into the EU..You realise Dunkirk was a retreat?
Where have I said that Ireland should leave the EU? What I said is that Ireland should be supported financially in an event of a no deal Brexit however if they choose the GFA over their EU membership then that decision should be respected. You're right to say that its unfair for Ireland to be impacted by something the GB voted for. However its also unfair and unacceptable for the entire continent to be held hostage to the whims of Westminster on something the GB voted for as well. So if the UK can't decide which way to go then it should be pushed out of the door.Also why the feck would Ireland leave the EU and why on earth do you think they should be put in that position because of something GB voted for (and NI voted against)? Bloody hell.
If the UK stayed in the Single Market and Customs Union there wouldn't be a need for the backstop. On the other hand if the UK remained in the Customs Union and the Single Market there wouldn't be a need for Brexit full stop.I can't believe we're voting for this deal again in its current form. JUST GET THE BACKSTOP REMOVED. Offer concessions on other red lines, staying in the single market, staying in the customs union, whatever.
NEGOTIATE FFS. >_<
But her stepping down is only to get the Tories to vote for it which won't be enough , need some Labour/DUP/SNP to vote for it as well.Can anyone in laymans term explain to me what on earth is going on, particularly why have the MPs rejected her deal TWICE already, but may possibly accept it THIRD TIME ROUND if she promises to leave as PM. Surely its not about her, but the contents and agreements in the deal?
The VAST majority of people in NI do not want a border in Ireland - in fact I'd say almost 100% of people with those who want it probably utterly insane. On this issue the DUP represent almost nobody in NI.
Europe can't be expected to keep dancing to the tunes of ignorant people who voted for something despite having no idea how it will impact their lives especially since they keep insisting on it. Don't forget that for most people in Europe the politicians at Westminster are bureaucrats none of us had voted for.Most people who voted for Brexit had no clue about the GFA.
People who voted for Brexit didn't fecking know Ireland was partitioned, never mind a peace agreement.Most people who voted for Brexit had no clue about the GFA.
Fixed that for you.Most people who voted for Brexit had no clue about the Brexit.
Exactly the type of thing the ERG want you to champion. No deal Brexit, and we get to blame the EU for it too!I know hence why the comment. Ie backpaddling back into the EU..
Where have I said that Ireland should leave the EU? What I said is that Ireland should be supported financially in an event of a no deal Brexit however if they choose the GFA over their EU membership then that decision should be respected. You're right to say that its unfair for Ireland to be impacted by something the GB voted for. However its also unfair and unacceptable for the entire continent to be held hostage to the whims of Westminster on something the GB voted for as well. So if the UK can't decide which way to go then it should be pushed out of the door.
Yet they expect Europe's patient to be infinite simply because the majority of UK voters are......People who voted for Brexit didn't fecking know Ireland was partitioned, never mind a peace agreement.
Lost track of the amount English people I've met over the years who are woefully clueless about this island.
Do you think that a gym owner cares what the person who left the gym thinks of him?Exactly the type of thing the ERG want you to champion. No deal Brexit, and we get the blame the EU for it too!
Excellent.
Well they obviously do if people are still in the gym after 29.03.19.Do you think that a gym owner cares what the person who left the gym thinks of him?