Sir Vince Cable to you!
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Dominic Cummings to Boris Johnson:
Now that the plan to suspend parliament has backfired, we need to convince the voters that leaving the EU with no deal is perfectly safe.
So I have come up with a cunning plan.
We need to have a practical demonstration that shows that there is nothing to worry about jumping off the cliff edge.
So Boris my friend. I have arranged for you to jump off the top of the White Cliff of Dover live on TV.
Boris to his chief political advisor:
Brilliant idea Dominic. Simply brilliant. That will convince them.
Just one question. Will there be enough time for my parachute to open before I hit the ground.
Dominic to Boris:
Oh no Boris. You cannot have a parachute. We have to make it convincing for the voters and maybe you can even smile for the cameras on the way down.
Boris:
Absolutely. How silly of me. Of course. No parachute and remember to smile. Ya. That will convince them won't it. Ya. Brilliant idea. Simply brilliant.
Wish I had thought of that.
Now that the plan to suspend parliament has backfired, we need to convince the voters that leaving the EU with no deal is perfectly safe.
So I have come up with a cunning plan.
We need to have a practical demonstration that shows that there is nothing to worry about jumping off the cliff edge.
So Boris my friend. I have arranged for you to jump off the top of the White Cliff of Dover live on TV.
Boris to his chief political advisor:
Brilliant idea Dominic. Simply brilliant. That will convince them.
Just one question. Will there be enough time for my parachute to open before I hit the ground.
Dominic to Boris:
Oh no Boris. You cannot have a parachute. We have to make it convincing for the voters and maybe you can even smile for the cameras on the way down.
Boris:
Absolutely. How silly of me. Of course. No parachute and remember to smile. Ya. That will convince them won't it. Ya. Brilliant idea. Simply brilliant.
Wish I had thought of that.
jumpoff a cliff... no chance too risky - you might convince him its a good idea to zipwire into his next speech waving a union jack though... what could possibly go wrong
JoJo no show gives BoJo big blow
Yes! Let's get the woman who couldn't be bothered voting against the pile of shit legislation that led to Windrush in as home secretary.
Shes a Tory in a suede jacket with leather elbow patches.
People what the feck is wrong with giving Corbyn a go? Is leftism or socialism that fecking bad you would rather have this shower of shite?
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Imagine how insufferable @Dobba would be.
Not sure how anyone can look back on the last 9 years of Conservative rule and think, yeah, Corbyn would be chaos. Surely worth a punt?
At least I've not read the term anti-semitism anywhere in a few weeks. I'm sure it will rear it's head during a campaign though.
You can't even begin to imagine. This is nothing.
The anti semitism stuff is overplayed to keep Corbyn from progressing imo. Not saying theres no such thing in the Labour party but its being used as a crutch by the anti Corbyn brigade.
May as well change your name to GlastonCorbyn if it happens
In what way would you be insufferable?
Sorry I should have clarified that Corbyn taking power and Dobba being insufferable aren't mutually exclusive, he'd just still be insufferable after Corbyn took power. It's one of life's constants. i joke he's all right
Well duh
is he pro or anti Corbyn is what Im getting at.
What is this, 20 fecking questions?
Shame he's not called Morgan, or Morris (or Mohamed).
I could see the titles "BoJo loses his MoJo"
You massive fecking spann...er
Shit! I totally forgot about him. What was going on with that hat gimmick ?
The issue is whether Labour has become institutionally antisemitic under him, which is why the EHRC are investigating (isn't their report due soon?). I happen to think it has, and coupled with a pretty terrible Labour policy on Europe over the last few years, it is why I think Labour has fared poorly in the polls. Ultimately though he is not trusted, and if he were to step aside I do think Labour would have a surge in support.
If he doesn't and he loses the next election, then he would surely have to step down. My worry now is the NEC and key positions within Labour have been filled by momentum types and those loyal to Corbyn, so Corbyn actually stepping down wouldn't change much.
All that said, I will vote Labour at an election as I see it as the best way to stop a no deal Brexit.
That's like asking me if I prefer to eat dog or cat for dinner. What happened to chicken?
Who is the chicken in this scenario?
Who do you see as next Labour leader? I think they’re suffering the same fate as the Democrats in America. As their opposition and the general political spectrum shifts right, the left suddenly seems more and more radical and as a result, they’re being decided into two distinct factions with less and less in common. The progressive left and the more moderate centrists. The centrists can’t win without the left but the left can’t ideologically compromise with the centrists.
The right doesn’t have the same issues because at the heart of everything they’re about one thing - looking after their own interests and they can generally all compromise if there is enough in it for them or failing that be compensated enough to compromise on their ideals.
Chicken gave us food poisoning and we puked out brexit.
Is Boris making a TV speech today?
Presumably either to go on tv and call corbyn a big gals blouse again or quit? (I guess the former)
His options do seem limited now... probably not a realistic option to propose an election bill that only requires a majority as it would be amendable and there would undoubtedly be amendments tagged on that would make life difficult for him (eg extension must be requested before parliment disolves for election)... and quite possibly not even time to get the bill through before parliament prorogues
Only thing left will be to try a confidence motion in his own government... and even if he looses that (which i guess is now a win?) then there is a 14 day period in which a GNU could be formed... so any election would be after he has to ask for an extension anyway (unless a GNU is formed then there might not even be an election)
Presumably either to go on tv and call corbyn a big gals blouse again or quit? (I guess the former)
His options do seem limited now... probably not a realistic option to propose an election bill that only requires a majority as it would be amendable and there would undoubtedly be amendments tagged on that would make life difficult for him (eg extension must be requested before parliment disolves for election)... and quite possibly not even time to get the bill through before parliament prorogues
Only thing left will be to try a confidence motion in his own government... and even if he looses that (which i guess is now a win?) then there is a 14 day period in which a GNU could be formed... so any election would be after he has to ask for an extension anyway (unless a GNU is formed then there might not even be an election)
I personally find his demeanor off putting, something that just my gut tells me he is untrustworthy and not a nice person. It’s well known that he’s a lifelong euro skeptic and he’s sat on the fence so long he will need surgery to remove the splinters. He did nothing notable to help the remain campaign. That’s before we get to all the shenanigans that’s happened in Labour under his watch. My mother-in-law is a life long Labour supporter and she can’t stand him.
Rightly or wrongly, he probably should step aside for someone with far reaching appeal
I think Starmer and long-bailey are the favourites... I think long-bailey would be seen as the most closely allied to Corbyn
Thornberry looked to be a good bet but shes been out of step with cotbyn over brexit - that might actually play well for her with the membership so I wouldnt rule her out either
Really? I've always thought that in a world of duplicitous, self serving blowhards he comes across as someone who genuinely gives a toss about improving people's lives.
It’s more the way he comes across as a condescending school headmaster
C: But you could break all your bones or even die
B: Now you're just scaremongering - you have no proof of that because I've never jumped off a cliff before.
However he may come across, he does give a damn about what happens to ordinary people.
Indeed. A rare breed in politics these days.
If she is strongly against Corbyn because she sees him as a brexiteer ,then maybe i would understand.
Rebecca Wrong-Daily is awful! Don't mind Starmer so much, comes across sensible most of the time.
Tory Lite.
Not worth listening to.
Oh Nicola Sturgeon
Interesting analysis.
Honestly I have no idea. As a party I feel they need to shift back to the centre somewhat, and if I could hand pick somebody I'd most likely go for Yvette Cooper as I think she is excellent. However that is highly unlikely, so it will most likely be somebody on the front bench. I wouldn't mind Starmer so much, but they'll probably go for Thornberry or god forbid Burgon (The worst of the lot).