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[4bars]

Brexit. The most stupid socio-economic/political experiment - utter self-infliction. Only way to begin the process of undoing the damage is to rejoin the EU.

Feck the "will of the people" bullshite - people are stupid. This should have been left to MPs, and it would never have happened.

I work with loads of overseas companies looking to come into the UK, and they're now just focusing attention elsewhere. Not worth the hassle.

Are you sure about that?

 

[Jericholyte2]

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Not to get too far ahead of myself, but looks like the Rishi bounce back was a bit of a damp squib.

 

[groovyalbert]

Are you sure about that?

Yup. Without the wave of populism/opportunism the referendum presented, no way would there have been a majority in parliament at that time.

 

[Wibble]

Shouldnt the MPs be a representation of what people wants and not what is best for the people?

Feck no. You might as well abolish MPs and just have referendums. See how that works out.

 

[4bars]

Feck no. You might as well abolish MPs and just have referendums. See how that works out.

I was being facetious, that is why I deleted the post, but you caught me. But at the beginning, the MP were not thinking on it, but after the referendum, they positioned being pro brexit to grift with the votes. And funnily enough, they became a representation of their brexiteer electorate, so it is that the MP are a representation of the electorate in the end. And if people starts to realize the shitshow that they are into it, they will change accordingly with their demands

 

[FireballXL5]

Good piece in today's Guardian by Jonathan Freedland. Re-joining the EU isn't some remainer airy-fairy pipe dream, it's a fecking economic necessity.

The reality of Brexit is biting hard. Poor people are suffering most – and now everyone can see it

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/02/brexit-poor-people-paying-eat-debate-human

 

[Fluctuation0161]

Good piece in today's Guardian by Jonathan Freedland. Re-joining the EU isn't some remainer airy-fairy pipe dream, it's a fecking economic necessity.

The reality of Brexit is biting hard. Poor people are suffering most – and now everyone can see it

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/02/brexit-poor-people-paying-eat-debate-human

I'm afraid it is too late for that. Regardless i don't see the political or public appetite being strong enough. Actually, I don't see the UK media owners having an appetite for it so neither will the easily manipulated public opinion.

Re joining would be on worse terms than we had and would not cause business to immediately relocate to the UK. The damage has been done.

 

[horsechoker]

Good piece in today's Guardian by Jonathan Freedland. Re-joining the EU isn't some remainer airy-fairy pipe dream, it's a fecking economic necessity.

The reality of Brexit is biting hard. Poor people are suffering most – and now everyone can see it

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/02/brexit-poor-people-paying-eat-debate-human

Unfortunately in the political sphere its a non-starter and you'd have more luck legalising drugs

 

[AlPistacho]

Britain lagging behind every major economy, except Mexico, for economic growth potential.

I have no idea what could have caused this.

 

[McGrathsipan]

Britain lagging behind every major economy, except Mexico, for economic growth potential.

I have no idea what could have caused this.

Ah probably Putin

 

[golden_blunder]

Ah probably Putin

No no must be covid and people who won’t go into the office

 

[AlPistacho]

No no must be covid and people who won’t go into the office

Damn those wfh people not spending at pret’s in city centres

 

[golden_blunder]

Damn those wfh people not spending at pret’s in city centres

If you’re not eating shop bought sarnies you’re not levelling up the economy

 

[AlPistacho]

If you’re not eating shop bought sarnies you’re not levelling up the economy

Don’t forget, next in line will be those smart arses coseying around the house in big wooly jumpers, and sitting on the sofa watching TV under a duvet instead of putting the heating on most of the day.

They’re having their cake and eating it, not putting anything into any coffers.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-food-prices-says-bank-of-england-policymaker

Among all voters, a total of 59% want to rejoin the EU (34%) or have a closer relationship while remaining outside the bloc (25%). Only 15% want the status quo and 14% want even less to do with the EU. About 63% believe the UK should have a relationship which would allow it to regain access the EU single market, against 14% who oppose the idea.

In a sign that people increasingly dislike the reality of border controls, 57% support removing all document and identity checks (such as passport controls and documents for exports and imports) while 21% do not.

Above depresses me.
So many UK Journalists, politicians and voters still do not understand what has been voted for.

 

[McGrathsipan]

No no must be covid and people who won’t go into the office

Yeah actually I forgot Covid.

 

[Sir Matt]

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[UweBein]

UK was the Nr 5 trading partner for Germany for a long time. As of 2022 it will not feature even in Germany's top ten of most important trading partners.

 

[WPMUFC]

you knew the con/scam was up when the treasury floated the "Swiss option" and the ERG/Farage came out, especially farage, and said they'd "come back into politics and destroy the conservatives electorally". They don't want any kind of trade improvement with the EU. They want to sit there, short the economy, and then claim if "labour-aligned globalists remoaners just got out the way, we would be booming". They are going to sit in their armchairs for the next 1-2 decades, exploit all this for personal gain and do NOTHING. It will be 2035 and you'll still see them talking about "remoaners".

 

[TheGame]

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[horsechoker]

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Like Piers on late-stage Ronaldo

 

[Buster15]

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Ok then.
Why doesn't he provide a shred of evidence that Brexit has actually been beneficial to the UK.
Answer - because there is none.

 

[TheGame]

Ok then.
Why doesn't he provide a shred of evidence that Brexit has actually been beneficial to the UK.
Answer - because there is none.

Someone asks that in the comments and they just ignore that and continue to spout this tripe.

 

[Drifter]

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[FireballXL5]

Watchdog reprimands Tories over £800bn post-Brexit trade deals claim

Figure includes agreements rolled over from before leaving EU, and description of ‘new trade’ is misleading says UKSA chief

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ries-over-800bn-post-brexit-trade-deals-claim

 

[horsechoker]

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Yes Brexit has worsened the UK in so many ways, project fear was right

But this is just Project Terror, the sequel.

 

[Buster15]

Yes Brexit has worsened the UK in so many ways, project fear was right

But this is just Project Terror, the sequel.

Not really sure what else can be said apart from the fact that voting to leave the world biggest trading group was always going to end badly.
And now we are all having to pay for that decision at almost every level.
Our economy is at the heart of everything including the need for immigration.
The UK has successfully shot itself in both feet.

 

[crossy1686]

Brexit coupled with years of Tory government and austerity was always going to be a total kick in the bollocks for anyone that wasn't well off to begin with. The sad part is it's not like no one saw it coming, but then again if your primary focus is to punish others because you're miserable then you probably couldn't see past 'getting one over Europe'.

The only thing we can hope for is a change of government and industry/better support comes back to the UK, otherwise this will only get worse. At some point the UK will come crawling back to Europe anyway, most likely within the next 30 years.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Watchdog reprimands Tories over £800bn post-Brexit trade deals claim

Figure includes agreements rolled over from before leaving EU, and description of ‘new trade’ is misleading says UKSA chief

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ries-over-800bn-post-brexit-trade-deals-claim

Misleading - understatement of the year.

Complete fabrication - they should be able to list the new deals on a postage stamp and they wouldn't be to the benefit of the UK.

 

[tombombadil]

Watchdog reprimands Tories over £800bn post-Brexit trade deals claim

Figure includes agreements rolled over from before leaving EU, and description of ‘new trade’ is misleading says UKSA chief

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ries-over-800bn-post-brexit-trade-deals-claim

They are blatantly lying and laughing over it. They'll never be held responsible for this blatant treachery.

 

[TheGame]

I fecking hate Mogg.

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[Adisa]

The nerve of Rees Mogg.

 

[Adisa]

I am going to call-out Labour here. WTF is going on with them? You can tell the electorate wants to speak about this issue but our two parties pretend like nothing is happening.

 

[Jericholyte2]

I am going to call-out Labour here. WTF is going on with them? You can tell the electorate wants to speak about this issue but our two parties pretend like nothing is happening.

???

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Mogg has not the slightest idea how trade works - he is so clueless but get's to speak utter nonsense on national TV to convince the morons who voted for this shambles.

Another remark I heard him say which nobody caught on to. Regarding the £350million on the bus. Firstly there never was £350m it was £8bn net per year.

Mogg says "we've only just got that money" - Liar again - The Uk are currently paying €10 billion per year to the EU, whilst being outside of the EU with no benefits which is almost the same amount as when they were in it.

Just a continuous stream of lies which will continue until the idiots who voted for this finally wake up and realise they've been conned and also admit to it.

 

[Adisa]

???

Brexit. Labour are not offering any solution.

 

[Massive Spanner]

Brexit. Labour are not offering any solution.

Why would they?

Easiest thing for them is to let the Tories implode while they neither commit to staying outside of the EU (and anger people who want to rejoin) or commit to rejoining (and anger Brexiteers).

 

[Paul the Wolf]

I saw this comment on the Guardian, didn't see the programme.:

The Labour rep was just as ingenuous. She thought
Brexit could "work" if we had a veterinary agreement with the EU (still won't avoid customs
costs) and a banking agreement (will never happen for UK banks when the UK is not in the
Single Market.)

I've heard this comment before from Starmer. If true,Starmer is still as clueless as he has been since 2016.

All hope abandon ye who enter here

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Why would they?

Easiest thing for them is to let the Tories implode while they neither commit to staying outside of the EU (and anger people who want to rejoin) or commit to rejoining (and anger Brexiteers).

Starmer has committed to not rejoining the Single Market , the Customs Union and the EU. He's going to make Brexit work with vets. Unbelievable.

 

[Buster15]

Starmer has committed to not rejoining the Single Market , the Customs Union and the EU. He's going to make Brexit work with vets. Unbelievable.

Were I in his position I would be saying exactly that same thing.
Because to say otherwise would be like giving the Tories a perfect Christmas present.
Every time he tried to say anything about any policy, they would immediately shove that back in his face. And he could never do anything without them saying 'There you go. He wants to overturn the Brexit referendum just like we always said he would'