So many Labour figures of the past would have been tearing the Tories to shreds at this point. To be fair if Ken Clarke was still under a hundred he would too.
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Not fully sure about that. A large section of the public and a lot of the mainstream press wants a hard brexit. Someone from the Labour past or Ken Clarke would be torn to shreds by them as some kind of anti-democratic figure.
I do wonder where Brexit would be if someone like Johnson had been made PM from the outset. Would it have been called off by now? Or would we be be on a collision course for Hard brexit?
Did you see Soubry in parliament? Now I don't like her as a person or a Tory, but she stood and demanded to know what Brexiters had to say to her constituents who were going to lose their jobs. That's what Labour MPs should be doing, repeatedly in parliament but in every interview and at every opportunity. Not just them but Remain supporters too, less whinging about alleged stupidity, how old voters are and campaign overspending and more hammering home the economic realities. Job losses, less revenue and tax rises for all, that's what Brexit means.
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Sir Nicholas Soames another one calling for a second vote.
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This is significant. The Tories can give us chlorinated chicken or carve up the NHS and there's nothing parliament can do.
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Taking back control
Time to learn another European language.
Now, I don't know why you were afraid of Turkey.
It's bloody shameful. Cowards, the lot of them, avoiding any responsibility.
To be fair Soubry is torn to shreds by Hardline Brexiteer rags.
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Whats the odds of the Tory rebels backing down at the last second again
Turkey? We prefer chlorinated chicken.
If I was a bookie, I wouldn’t bother setting the odds.
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Ladies and gentlemen we’re 8 (!!!!) months away from leaving the EU with not even a slightest of hints on so many matters it’s beyond belief what a shitshow this is, I can see UK leaving with no deal at all or caving in last minute to EEA or something of that ilk once the shit hits the fan around potential fallout. There’s simply not time left for any kind of negotiations let alone one filled with so many technicalities and issues.
Apparently Tory Remainer rebels are being threatened by another General Election if they dont vote in line with the Government tonight.
Yes please.
Yes please.
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The government has lost the big one!
On an amendment to keep medicines flowing freely between the UK and EU.
On an amendment to keep medicines flowing freely between the UK and EU.
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It's not a credible threat.
Aaaand they bottled it. No customs union.
Get ready for anarchy.
Get ready for anarchy.
It’s interesting the pound is still relatively ok - down from the 1.43 USD rate it reached a while back but at 1.31 still quite a bit higher than in the aftermath of the referendum and certainly better than you’d expect from a country that looks ungovernable and is less than a year away from ripping up its economic model of the last 40 years in order to jump off a cliff. Are the markets betting that a G7 country cannot be as idiotic as it seems and will basically cave in to some Norway type deal at the last minute?
That's hard brexit confirmed.
May whipped her MPs to vote for a bill that defeats her own negotiating position. Corbyn whipped his MPs to enforce the government's negotiating position.
What the feck is happening?
What the feck is happening?
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Tory "Rebels" bottled it (again).
A unified Labour voted couldve effectively forced a confidence vote and potential election..
Did the Lib Dems show up tonight?
A unified Labour voted couldve effectively forced a confidence vote and potential election..
Did the Lib Dems show up tonight?
There won't be another election till 2022 since she has survived this, right?
Democracy via bullying. Great system we have.
Here we go.
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The problem is that it looks a lot like what she said last week when we argued about the white paper.
Edit - Already posted by @Adisa