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I consider myself to be quite politically savvy but I’m completely lost. What the hell is fecking happening!!!!
Stuff, my man. Stuff is happening.I consider myself to be quite politically savvy but I’m completely lost. What the hell is fecking happening!!!!
Ditto. Is this just weak ass posturing from Corbyn or is this significant? Didn’t realise you had the vote of confidence in individual/government option, the latter seemingly being more symbolic rather than meaningful.I consider myself to be quite politically savvy but I’m completely lost. What the hell is fecking happening!!!!
So...Stuff, my man. Stuff is happening.
I think remain is more likely to gain votes from those who were on the fence last time and didn’t really get the significance of the vote. The we want control daily mail feckers will not change their vote at all... whether they can add to their voter base is questionable as they’re getting older and dying off with each passing year.Anyone else concerned that if it went to a 2nd referendum between no deal and remain, no deal would win?
I feel like people in the UK are genuinely that stupid.
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Corbyn's plan is thus;So...
Corbyns tactic is...?
Call no confidence is Theresa May...hope it gets rejected.
Call no confidence in government...lose
So no chance of a general election to break parliamentary deadlock
WA gets voted down....
Labour table second referendum which conservative remainers will back
Extend a50 for a vote.
Sorry yeah, badly put. No deal brexit.No brexit? Or no No deal brexit? Very different things...
Go tough man Corbyn - we demand that parliament has a vote on this EU deal, yes Jeremy, it's the week commencing 14th January. Oh sorry , must have fallen asleep.Tweet
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Exactly what I thought. Complete feckwit.Go tough man Corbyn - we demand that parliament has a vote on this EU deal, yes Jeremy, it's the week commencing 14th January. Oh sorry , must have fallen asleep.
I cant see any Conservative MPs siding with Labour.I think there’s a chance she will lose the vote.
With all of Labour, Lib Dems and SNP voting no confidence, they only need 9 conservatives to vote no confidence for a majority. I could see some of the hard brexiters sticking the knife in to get Boris or Rees-Mogg leading the party to the general election.
In reality, I doubt she will get all of Lib Dems as a few of them will vote to keep her because they know they will lose their seats in a GE. Same goes for some labour candidates in hard Brexit areas.
Nor the dup...I cant see any Conservative MPs siding with Labour.
Fair enough. It's worryingly looking more and more likely, but I still can't believe a government would go the whole no deal route. Even leavers shouldn't want a no deal brexit.Sorry yeah, badly put. No deal brexit.
Yeah, it's a public vote, any that do would be ending their career.I cant see any Conservative MPs siding with Labour.
They've got until the 21st to have the vote as far as I'm aware.I don't think they expected anything out of the censure motion as any Tories voting for it would lose the whip. Purely a mechanism to keep up the headlines so it doesn't go quiet.
I don't agree with the above posts, delaying it a month is not an acceptable date for the vote.
The man is a fraud.Just saw Rees-Mogg on the beeb saying he was a loyal conservative
Assuming they understand what a no deal Brexit means - apparently everything is going to be fine.Fair enough. It's worryingly looking more and more likely, but I still can't believe a government would go the whole no deal route. Even leavers shouldn't want a no deal brexit.
True. Media have a lot to answer for in all honesty. It's very depressing just how many people believe a no deal exit means everything stays the same.Assuming they understand what a no deal Brexit means - apparently everything is going to be fine.
You know what... If the support for a second referendum grows enough she might just get the erg back onside for her deal... Plus a few labour leavers.ERG
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Don't know about outlawing them completely but yeah if they are going to be used for decisions this important. Then they shouldn't be simple yes no questions in a hastily arranged referendum.I agree. But I'd rather just outlaw referendums as they are generally stupid things to hold for questions of this magnitude.
You don't use a shovel to get yourself out of a hole.
No because "just get on with it".How exactly did No Deal not only become part of the conversation for Brexit and a real possibility but the preferable option for some. Surely no one who understands what it actually means and has nothing to gain from it would want the UK to crash out of the EU with No Deal?
Have any Politicians suggested withdrawing Article 50 and taking a more long term approach to Brexit?
At this stage with May's deal being so undesirable for most and no alternative deal with the EU being a possibility would it not be better to take the March deadline off the table and put plans in place to undo half a century of EU integration over like 5-10 years instead of overnight. It would also allow more time to try to find a viable solution to the border problem that would preserve the GFA.
Are you suggesting he should have called the formal no confidence? People in here have been saying he should do it for weeks, it's clear if he had that he'd have lost and strengthened her further.Absolute fecking incompetence by Corbyn. This is becoming completely ridiculous. Demand a motion that the government have no duty to hold, and then look like an idiot by refusing to demand the stronger version because he knows damn well he can’t win it.
May must be laughing her ass off.
Because the psychopathic leavers and militant remainers have spent 2 years rubbishing any type of deal that doesn’t suit their own ideology. A total lack of responsibility from at least 90% of MPs and issue illiteracy from the other 10.How exactly did No Deal not only become part of the conversation for Brexit and a real possibility but the preferable option for some. Surely no one who understands what it actually means and has nothing to gain from it would want the UK to crash out of the EU with No Deal?
Stewart Lee put it eloquently.Anyone else concerned that if it went to a 2nd referendum between no deal and remain, no deal would win?
I feel like people in the UK are genuinely that stupid.
No of course he shouldn’t. What he has done however just makes him look cynical and rather stupid. He has exactly one sensible move he could make, which is get fully behind a position and come out for it with everything he has. It’s too late for nonsense games and wait and see tactics. He’s playing high stakes poker and his hand isn’t strong. His demand for a new election just makes him look like he cares only about his parties ambitions and not about the country.Are you suggesting he should have called the formal no confidence? People in here have been saying he should do it for weeks, it's clear if he had that he'd have lost and strengthened her further.
No because "just get on with it".
Yeah it's all so odd, the PM and politicians just going full steam ahead on probably the most complicated thing a country has ever tried to do with no real plan and a short (self imposed) timeframe.Because the psychopathic leavers and militant remainers have spent 2 years rubbishing any type of deal that doesn’t suit their own ideology. A total lack of responsibility from at least 90% of MPs and issue illiteracy from the other 10.