togg
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never had any doubt...
Yes, Feed Me made a thread wanting van Gaal to be sacked.Agreed. We were painful to watch for ages and so spawny with the Southampton and Newcastle away wins. The turnaround has been awesome but you can't knock people for early doubts.
Am sure we had some calling for LVG's head.
Not sure even the most diehard LVG fans anticipated the scale of the turnaround, not least performance and watchability-wise.Yes, Feed Me made a thread wanting van Gaal to be sacked.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/van-gaal-out.401652/
Table at the time:
Our results since:
This Southampton would be awesome.Southampton have a decent run in. Would love them getting it.
My argument was that looking at the manager's past, things will click into place therefore we should reserve judgement until the season is out providing we are still in the race for top four.There's no need for anyone to gloat - you can only give an opinion on how it is, not how it might be. We were pretty rubbish earlier in the season. It wasn't easy to have faith with poor performances from the players, and strange choices from LVG.
I feel so smug right now.Those fixtures.
My predictions:
Spurs - Home - W
Liverpool - Away - D
Villa - Home - W
Man City - Home - W
Chelsea - Away - D
Everton - Away - W
14/18
Optimistic, I know. But we've dug out results in the big games so far this season.
The thing is, that's not why people disagreed with this thread (because they were expecting 6 straight wins to put us one point behind second place). It was because it was too early to make such a thread, and we were still at fourth place. It's not like we were 7th when the thread was made and we somehow miraculously managed to pull ourselves back into the top 4 now.Not sure even the most diehard LVG fans anticipated the scale of the turnaround, not least performance and watchability-wise.
Niall was a believer though, given how quickly he locked that thread!
I would rather have Liverpool get 4th. They will amount to nothing next season while City will have EL to contend with, their supporters being smug about them in the CL thus season while we weren't. Not having them in the CL next season will be awesome, and hopefully affect them a bit financially, never mind them maybe losing one or two good players like Aguero and Silva.The question should now be, who do you want to get into the top 4, Liverpool or City. For me I'd rather see Liverpool fail.
The dream.Southampton have a decent run in. Would love them getting it.
Can't believe you thought we would only draw against the dippersI feel so smug right now.
I actually did better and predicted the Liverpool win and that we would win all our remaining games(including Arsenal) but the Chelsea game which we would draw.I feel so smug right now.
Why! You got it wrong.I feel so smug right now.
Yup, fully agree with that. Come on you scousers!I would rather have Liverpool get 4th. They will amount to nothing next season while City will have EL to contend with, their supporters being smug about them in the CL thus season while we weren't. Not having them in the CL next season will be awesome, and hopefully affect them a bit financially, never mind them maybe losing one or two good players like Aguero and Silva.
Liverpool will still be tosh.
I myself was optimistic about 15 from those 18! 12 down, 3 to go.I feel so smug right now.
You got proof?I actually did better and predicted the Liverpool win and that we would win all our remaining games(including Arsenal) but the Chelsea game which we would draw.
After today, I say feck Chelsea. We are going to win that game too.
I will look through my posts when I am at my PC.You got proof?
I appreciate the logic but I could never bring myself to wish Liverpool any sort of result ( unless it's exulted in a direct advantage to us)I would rather have Liverpool get 4th. They will amount to nothing next season while City will have EL to contend with, their supporters being smug about them in the CL thus season while we weren't. Not having them in the CL next season will be awesome, and hopefully affect them a bit financially, never mind them maybe losing one or two good players like Aguero and Silva.
Liverpool will still be tosh no matter what happens.
And how is Liverpool ending 4th not an advantage for us?I appreciate the logic but I could never bring myself to wish Liverpool any sort of result ( unless it's exulted in a direct advantage to us)
Was close enough. Give me some creditWhy! You got it wrong.
Na, i'm only kidding. Prior to my prediction, we had a pretty good record against the big teams, hence why I was pretty confident and Van Gaal hasn't disappointed.Will have a
I will look through my posts when I am at my PC.
How is it?And how is Liverpool ending 4th not an advantage for us?
Here's someone who's been right so far. Not sure about his next 2 though. I hope he's wrong.Sunderland (h) - Win
Newcastle (a) - Win
Spurs (h) - Win
Liverpool (a) - Win
Villa (h) - Win
City (h) - Win
Chelsea (a) - Loss
Everton (a) - Draw
19 points out of the possible 24, and looking very good for the top 4.
My logic is this. At the beginning of the season someone posted something along the lines of if we do get into the CL in 4th or higher, we will be seeded behind City due to them being in the CL this season.How is it?
Me too.Here's someone who's been right so far. Not sure about his next 2 though. I hope he's wrong.
Wow! Fair play to you, @Mciahel GoodmanHere's someone who's been right so far. Not sure about his next 2 though. I hope he's wrong.
Fair point, but can understand knee-jerk reactions, if not agree with them, after the likes of Cambridge and PNE. Anyway, onward and upward hopefully. I'm loving watching us right nowThe thing is, that's not why people disagreed with this thread (because they were expecting 6 straight wins to put us one point behind second place). It was because it was too early to make such a thread, and we were still at fourth place. It's not like we were 7th when the thread was made and we somehow miraculously managed to pull ourselves back into the top 4 now.
I'd have had faith if we were delivering good performances, but we weren't. There seemed to be no structure, no plan, no consistency, constant team changes. It was too much like last year, although I never had the sheer despondency of last year. This year I just had extreme frustration.My argument was that looking at the manager's past, things will click into place therefore we should reserve judgement until the season is out providing we are still in the race for top four.
I thought that was a reasonable position to take, some on here accused me of blind faith but it wasn't blind because this was my expectation based on Louis van Gaal's past.
Another expectation I have is a slow start to next season, around November we should hit a stride and maintain it until the end (with the odd game here and there lost or drawn). It's important we don't lose too many points even if things are rusty at the start of the season, to ensure we get the points despite some poor performances we need to make sure we have a quality attacking four.
The strange choices are also part of Louis van Gaal, that will not change. He sees things differently and likes to experiment, sometimes they can work and also fail, it's just the way he does things.
I also think the lack of European football was a hindrance. We had a big enough squad to cope with Europa and also those extra games are matches in which the players get experience applying the philosophy. The manager maintained they understood it in November but said they are yet to execute it consistently.
If we were in the champions league we might have got knocked out of our group, in the Europa perhaps scraped through but also possibly knocked out of our group but those extra six matches would have helped.
Fair enough, still not enough for me to hope that they finish in the top 4, the dream is for SouthamptonMy logic is this. At the beginning of the season someone posted something along the lines of if we do get into the CL in 4th or higher, we will be seeded behind City due to them being in the CL this season.
So my way of thinking is if they don't make the CL, then that problem is solved. Having Liverpool in the CL in 4th means that they will play more games, again better advantage for us since we will play less.
City would also have to play more games in the EL and on Thursday's, more than we would have to play in the CL.
So definite win/win in my books.
Had to be slightly realistic, didn't I?Can't believe you thought we would only draw against the dippers