Cancel Culture

[Pogue Mahone]

Another day, another almighty Twitter pile-on.

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This nurse (well, mainly her husband) got an absolute ton of online abuse because she cleared the snow off her drive after working a shift in the hospital (which means he’s an abusive bully and their marriage is a sham, according to the righteous)

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[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

i think online political cancellations suck, but today i'm watching the kpop stans go at it and they're on a different level in viciousness and directness.

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Another guy (who has gone private) got this:

for saying that the kpop guy will age one day.

Yikes.

Though I remember One Direction fans being similarly brutal on Twitter a few years ago, when that group was relevant. They once piled on to Gabby Agbonlahor, threatening to castrate and kill him, because he stuck a challenge on a member of 1D in a testimonial match.

I also remember watching some Channel 4 doc years ago about the online One Direction fandom, and how they seemed to operate like a hooligan firm. Ironically, fans of One Direction were furious about the documentary, and threatened to kill the people responsible. Pretty sure there was one tweet in particularly threatening to blow up Channel 4 HQ. Mental.

Pop music is vicious.

 

[MadMike]

i think online political cancellations suck, but today i'm watching the kpop stans go at it and they're on a different level in viciousness and directness.

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Another guy (who has gone private) got this:

for saying that the kpop guy will age one day.

If that's not a sign of mental illness, I don't know what is. I genuinely feel sorry for them.

 

[The Corinthian]

Yikes.

Though I remember One Direction fans being similarly brutal on Twitter a few years ago, when that group was relevant. They once piled on to Gabby Agbonlahor, threatening to castrate and kill him, because he stuck a challenge on a member of 1D in a testimonial match.

I also remember watching some Channel 4 doc years ago about the online One Direction fandom, and how they seemed to operate like a hooligan firm. Ironically, fans of One Direction were furious about the documentary, and threatened to kill the people responsible. Pretty sure there was one tweet in particularly threatening to blow up Channel 4 HQ. Mental.

Pop music is vicious.

If that's not a sign of mental illness, I don't know what is. I genuinely feel sorry for them.

There’s an old Arab proverb that goes something like ‘youth is a type of insanity, of which the only cure is age’.

 

[Vidyoyo]

That's a brilliant reply from his wife. Really cuts to the core of the issue with reacting instead of thinking

 

[MadMike]

There’s an old Arab proverb that goes something like ‘youth is a type of insanity, of which the only cure is age’.

There's an element of truth in that proverb for sure, but you're assuming these people are young.

A girl I was at uni with that is my age (almost 40) became an obsessive kpop fan at 35. I'm not talking about just enjoying the music and listening to it all day. I'm talking spending hundreds of hours on Quora and Twitter talking, debating and arguing about kpop bands and their stars. What seems from my casual glance at her social feed, like most hours of the waking day outside of work. I worry about her that she's going the same way.

PS. I'm aware of the irony since we obsess about football on this forum. Extreme obsession is bad in every domain, though I don't think we're particularly in bad here. You see some people rage at each other at times, but nothing to the level of these kpop stans.

 

[Withnail]

Being a teacher myself, every fibre of my body hurts reading that.

“Parents can opt out their child from any part of the curriculum and the teacher will have to provide a different lesson plan for that child” and “parental review”.

Lunatics

That is absolutely crazy. How many different lesson plans in how many different subjects is the teacher supposed to be providing?

Is there a limit to that or how many times a parent can review and ask for changes?

 

[Withnail]

Another day, another almighty Twitter pile-on.

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This nurse (well, mainly her husband) got an absolute ton of online abuse because she cleared the snow off her drive after working a shift in the hospital (which means he’s an abusive bully and their marriage is a sham, according to the righteous)

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There's a fair amount of sexism in there too. Reverse the roles and there is no furore.

 

[horsechoker]

Shovelgate is an example of why you shouldn't put anything about your personal life on social media.

 

[afrocentricity]

Shovelgate is an example of why you shouldn't put anything about your personal life on social media.

Honestly? I don't even understand why people do? Statuses and pictures in your (actual irl) friends groups sure.... but telling a bunch of strangers that you just cooked steak?

 

[horsechoker]

Honestly? I don't even understand why people do? Statuses and pictures in your (actual irl) friends groups sure.... but telling a bunch of strangers that you just cooked steak?

How do you cook yours?

Answer carefully because this could your last post.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

There's a fair amount of sexism in there too. Reverse the roles and there is no furore.

There’s often a paradoxically misogynistic vibe behind a lot of these pile-on by the self righteously left-wing. Yer man who did the Molly Mae podcast (who seems like a tool but whatever) made the reasonable point that he’s had loads of high profile male guests trot out almost identical right wing tropes to her, without any of the online bullying.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

There's an element of truth in that proverb for sure, but you're assuming these people are young.

A girl I was at uni with that is my age (almost 40) became an obsessive kpop fan at 35. I'm not talking about just enjoying the music and listening to it all day. I'm talking spending hundreds of hours on Quora and Twitter talking, debating and arguing about kpop bands and their stars. What seems from my casual glance at her social feed, like most hours of the waking day outside of work. I worry about her that she's going the same way.

PS. I'm aware of the irony since we obsess about football on this forum. Extreme obsession is bad in every domain, though I don't think we're particularly in bad here. You see some people rage at each other at times, but nothing to the level of these kpop stans.

Is it unique to kpop? Or do you get the same level of insanity in other music genres?

 

[MadMike]

Is it unique to kpop? Or do you get the same level of insanity in other music genres?

I've no idea tbh. You see people arguing about their favourite rappers etc. but I don't think there's that much vitriol and obsession as in kpop. I think the sexualisation and enamourment with their stars is a big thing. Their fans are usually like... "in love" with a band member. Infatuated and obsessive, more accurately, like teenagers tend to be. Then they become possessive and defensive and lash out over any perceived slight against their "love".

While I can comprehend that with teenagers (we've all been young and foolish), it completely beats me how middle-aged adults can behave like that though. It's like their mid-life crisis has them behaving like a teenager all over again. I just hope my middle-life crisis will be more straight forward, like buying a cabrio and snorting coke off a hookers tits. It's more respectable if you ask me.

 

[Withnail]

There’s often a paradoxically misogynistic vibe behind a lot of these pile-on by the self righteously left-wing. Yer man who did the Molly Mae podcast (who seems like a tool but whatever) made the reasonable point that he’s had loads of high profile male guests trot out almost identical right wing tropes to her, without any of the online bullying.

Yeah, I've seen a bit of that, and often women are held to a higher standard by some who are supposedly all for equality. I suppose people aren't very aware of their own blind spots. I also saw a jacked-up gym bro calling him a beta. It's nice when left and right can come together like this.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Yeah, I've seen a bit of that, and often women are held to a higher standard by some who are supposedly all for equality. I suppose people aren't very aware of their own blind spots. I also saw a jacked-up gym bro calling him a beta. It's nice when left and right can come together like this.

United by their extreme cuntiness. Warms the cockles.

 

[berbatrick]

she was fired 6 hours later

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[horsechoker]

she was fired 6 hours later

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The police must be on the left now because on the left cancels.

 

[berbatrick]

The police must be on the left now because on the left cancels.

"cancel culture will make everybody a leftist" - mao z

 

[oneniltothearsenal]

she was fired 6 hours later

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What was her job?

 

[berbatrick]

What was her job?

it's in the next tweet, she was in some film company called face to face. if you google it, the site seems to be about "women-led" voices or something, but i couldn't find anything like that in the actual website.

 

[DOTA]

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[Sweet Square]

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[moses]

There’s often a paradoxically misogynistic vibe behind a lot of these pile-on by the self righteously left-wing. Yer man who did the Molly Mae podcast (who seems like a tool but whatever) made the reasonable point that he’s had loads of high profile male guests trot out almost identical right wing tropes to her, without any of the online bullying.

There is no left-wing theory or ideology to cause that, these people are just fecking idiots though. The Venn diagram of right v left has a huge stupidity overlap.

While there is definitely misogyny in all elements of society I think overall those with a left bent do more to address that. I have two good friends who work in two different centres to aid women and I have in the past socialised with them and they are to the last person are (self righteously on occasion) very left-wing.

 

[calodo2003]

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[KirkDuyt]

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Haven't heard anything about this story, but she seems mental more than anything.

 

[Hansi Fick]

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also shades of Mulholland Drive's "Club Silencio"

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[maniak]

Made me want to rewatch donnie darko.

 

[NoLogo]

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Absolute mentalist. Did she think she was being funny?

 

[NoLogo]

Another day, another almighty Twitter pile-on.

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This nurse (well, mainly her husband) got an absolute ton of online abuse because she cleared the snow off her drive after working a shift in the hospital (which means he’s an abusive bully and their marriage is a sham, according to the righteous)

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Shame on you for making your wife clean the street Pogue. Not cool.

Next time, get the kids to do it.

 

[nimic]

Absolute mentalist. Did she think she was being funny?

Also: maths teacher. Not even social studies or history or something that might prompt this madness.

 

[calodo2003]

Also: maths teacher. Not even social studies or history or something that might prompt this madness.

 

[manutddjw]

Absolute mentalist. Did she think she was being funny?

It’s idiot math teachers way of trying to teach Soh Cah Toa without having to explain it properly. My teacher pretended he was a ninja when teaching it.

 

[NoLogo]

It’s idiot math teachers way of trying to teach Soh Cah Toa without having to explain it properly. My teacher pretended he was a ninja when teaching it.

Ohhhh. Well we don't have that rhyme in Germany as far as I know, had to google what it is. Well at least now I can consider what she was doing had a purpose and not a mental breakdown.

 

[nimic]

I say that as a history teacher. She can't even claim a misguided attempt at teaching about the injuns.

 

[LARulz]

Jimmy Carr thing is still going I see - personally I laughed when I heard the joke when watching his special but it was never with malice or a "yeah feck them".

Not to say certain people shouldn't feel offended but I can't help but feel the government will jump on this as a distraction from the shit show that is Boris. It will undoubtedly be brought up at PMQs in a couple days and stay in the headlines

 

[Pogue Mahone]

It’s idiot math teachers way of trying to teach Soh Cah Toa without having to explain it properly. My teacher pretended he was a ninja when teaching it.

Oh right. So she was well intentioned. Could someone not have had a quiet word? Was there really any need for public shaming?

All the glee in that twitter thread about “exposing” and then “identifying” someone and celebrating them losing their job is icky as feck. Self righteous pile ons like this one invariably leave a bad taste.

 

[berbatrick]

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[Dr. Dwayne]

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Satan cancelled Jesus? I thought it was the Romans (and his dad).

 

[Pogue Mahone]

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Operation Transformation is an Irish Tv show where morbidly obese individuals try to lose weight. It’s been under relentless assault on social media for a while now, with accusations of fat shaming etc