Great post and fantastic to hear from someone actually living in Uruguay. The only thing I will say is that I remember seeing a report from back when this happened that said there are some black Uruguayans who feel uncomfortable with this word being said and want to try and root it out.
Cavani gets 3 match ban from FA for his social media post
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No idea why people are upset? Did they expect anything else from the FA. It was always going to happen, he’s a United player so has to be made an example of.
They call that a punishment?? He should be stripped down and made to make a walk of shame throughout the city and end up on gallows. The fa lacks cojones.
A lot of the time “It’s fine, no one’s got a problem with it” is in fact covering up that some very powerless/ignored people do have a problem with it.
Thing is, the word used by Cavani isn't the same word you're referring to.
Super post
Like I’ve said before there is no justification for saying that word in the UK
He was always going to get a minimum 3-match ban and I would have been disappointed if He didn’t get any ban
You do not go to Dubai or any Muslim country and drink Alcohol publicly
You have to respect the rule and laws of the courthouse work and reside in
Ignorance is not an excuse
Let’s move on and stop trying to justify this because he is a united player
He was always going to get a minimum 3-match ban and I would have been disappointed if He didn’t get any ban
You do not go to Dubai or any Muslim country and drink Alcohol publicly
You have to respect the rule and laws of the courthouse work and reside in
Ignorance is not an excuse
Let’s move on and stop trying to justify this because he is a united player
When did the word 'negrito' become a huge deal in the UK? I'd never heard of it before the Suarez incident. Its not even an English word.
The obvious ugly word it sounds like fair enough.
Link me the report I’ve never heard of this.
Cavani didn’t act in a racist way, so what exactly is this ban and fine for? For using a word that doesn’t even have a direct English translation?
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Just UK culture because this is where he is playing!
Your argument seems a little silly to be honest. Considering that the word he used has been used before in the UK and punished by the FA. One incident actually included our club. It is hardly a completely unpredictable, one in a million event FFS.
I’ve already responded to your last post to explain that this is inaccurate. I suggest you read the Suarez judgment, as currently you are posting stuff which is fundamentally wrong.
Negro, is the word Evra was subjected to.
Negrito, is the word Suarez used to justify being a racist.
One is a word which can be used for racist intentions, the other has no direct translation to the English language, the FA themselves said Negrito wasn't racist during the Suarez/Evra incident.
This is the problem with Cavani accepting this ruling, is people will paint him with the same brush as Suarez, I understand why United and Cavani are accepting this, but this is slander and will mark Cavani as a racist well beyond his playing days.
https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN28B695
‘However, Fernandez also said Afro-Uruguayan communities had increasingly expressed their unease at the word and some considered it discriminatory.’
Cavani also stated that he accepts the sanction but "does not share the point of view" so he feels he has done nothing wrong. I don't see what the "education" thing is supposed to do.
And you think UK culture can be found on one page? Think your the one talking silly FFS as you call it.
He's probably a snowflake in disguise
So I guess he is banned for the Liverpool game?
No, tonight and the two Cup games. Back for Burnley
I appreciate the negrito word splashed over the UK media was a Liverpool PR campaign. That doesn't change the fact that the word is in the UK public awareness and our club has had direct exposure to the word. Therefore our briefing and induction to new players should cover this fact and advise that they avoid the word! It is basic stuff and a big error in our clubs induction for Cavani.
So fundamentally, the point remains the same.
One page? What are you talking about?
This post explains alot about your lack of cognitive function.He's probably a snowflake in disguise
Why isn't that something they do when you sign players? Not even the English understand these rules so why the feck should others?
Can you write a manual of all the words and phrases, in every single language in the world, for all incoming players of any nationality to know not to use in the UK? Of course you can't and no one can, which is why it is completely unrealistic.
He´ll be back for that, though.
Well, one could easily say that the fact Liverpool‘s PR campaign was based on the word “negrito” was because that word is not racist, offensive or improper. Their entire defence was based on Suarez not intending offence. That said, I don’t disagree that it would be sensible for the club to give a briefing on this type of issue and I’m sure they will going forwards. Where I disagree is that it was appropriate for Cavani to be punished for something which, by most accounts, is not offensive or improper in his own language.
Think both the club and cavani have handled this incredibly well. I really hope there isn’t any lasting damage done to the players reputation from this, when idiots like Troy deeney go on live radio and spout nonsense and condemn him without fully educating themselves on cultural differences and context, I can easily see opposition fans just assuming he’s a racist
The ban is of course no shock 
He can do it on one page, didn't you know.
I've just gone over your head.
The FA are basically censoring and unjustly punishing a player, without taking a look at all the facts on the table. A big fine, banned from doing his job and also tarnished as being "racist" in effect, which could ruin a player's image and future career.
I don't know how they are allowed to do stuff like that, is it linked to the image rights that clubs and players negotiate for when signing a contract? This would not stand in any normal and just court system, the accusations have no real proof to them.
I don't know how they are allowed to do stuff like that, is it linked to the image rights that clubs and players negotiate for when signing a contract? This would not stand in any normal and just court system, the accusations have no real proof to them.
I think you give yourself too much credit.
First you say we can't brief new players on "all cultures across the globe", now you are saying even only briefing them on UK culture is too much.
Even just some words or phrases that are best avoided in the UK?
You have changed your weak argument to another even weaker one, well done.
I’m fairly certain, FA rules do not overrule discrimination laws.
I see your point. I am not endorsing the FA's decision. I think it is yet again, inconsistent (didn't Bernando Silva get a 1 match ban and £50k fine, for something worse?) and the timing seems designed to make an example out of United because we are the biggest club in the league. E.g Rio ban length, Rooney red card for swearing at camera.
My thought process is, knowing the FA love to make examples out of our players, as a club how can we avoid this in the future... I think having a good induction/briefing on these topics as part of media training for new players is vital.
No... Your twisting my words but whatever floats your boat. I've no time for argumented morons like yourself.I think you give yourself too much credit.
First you say we can't brief new players on "all cultures across the globe", now you are saying even only briefing them on UK culture is too much.
Even just some words or phrases that are best avoided in the UK?
You have changed your weak argument to another even weaker one, well done.
So if a British player playing in Saudi Arabia made some frivolous Insta post calling Messi God (something that would undoubtedly be frowned upon in that country), you would be disappointed if said player didn't receive a ban?
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You are being disingenuous with your analogy. It doesn't apply. Cavani used the word while playing in England, for an English team, with largely English speaking viewers. The FA will always take that into account. More than punishing the intention of usage, the FA wants to create a deterrence for players to err on the side of caution because even a small infraction will cause massive damage to the league's reputation and business prospects.
With that in mind, Cavani was always going to get punished for the simple fact that it is an unwelcome word in England and for English speaking audiences. Now you may keep arguing how it is unfair on him (which it is), but this is one of those things you take on your chin and move on. It sucks for us but letting it go would also not be the best way to deal with it.
Yep if I was Saudi Arabian and if you called Messi God in S/A you are going to jail mate
Ander is right, this is bollocks. Cavani did nothing wrong
I don't see it as such. Every man and his dog knows the FA are off their rocker, so is the English press and, by extension I'm afraid, most of the UKs population.
I couldn't care less what they say, fine or ban, I'll carry on calling my brother Negro. Only use negrito with a couple of mates, used to use it a lot more with ladies but I'm a married man now so that's out of the window.
And you've missed my point - the poster I was responding to said they would be disappointed if Cavani hadn't been punished; the obvious inference being that said poster felt Cavani had made some kind of ethical breach (even though it is fairly obvious that it was an innocent mistake), and that by failing to address it, the FA would be dealing a damaging blow in the fight against racism. And it being an unwelcome word in England is a bit weird, given that it is a Spanish word that hardly has everyday currency in England (unlike the similar-sounding, and obvious unacceptable 'N' word.)
I think the FA could have easily avoided 'letting it go' by issuing a stern reminder of player duties to Cavan, and you can be sure he wouldn't have repeated the mistake. The fact that this same FA chose not to punish Millwall for the clearly intentional, and racist, actions of its fans but chose to punish Cavani in this way is not right in my opinion.