Not the time or place. Have some respect@P-Ro talking about his bacon sandwiches again
In that case, should it also not be the case that the accused has to prove/demonstrate how they perceived that consent had been/ was given? I appreciate that may sound ludicrous in most cases, but no more so than someone having to prove a negative.That's the drama in sexual misconduct or rape cases, victims are supposed to prove they didn't give their consent and that's rarely possible unless there's visible traces of agression
Isn't it?You don't...? The legal burden of proof isn't on the defendant.
Always thought Lorraine Kelly was a decent person.Seen an article that comedian Katherine Ryan has said it's an open secret a famous tv star is a predator.
Do they hold no moral or ethical values at all to report said person to the police?
What if the person abuses/attacks someone else?
"So am I going to put my mortgage on the line by saying who this person is or entering into any conversations like that? We’ve seen what happens to the people who talk about alleged predators..." - Katherine Ryan.It just doesn't sit right that she's happy to say in an interview it's well know this star is a predator (kids?) But then not try and do something about it.
I don't know what the solution is but it's maddening that nothing can be done about these kinds of people
It certainly is and the fact that rape, which is often 'weaponized' in war situations where 'bloodletting' and lust combined are used as 'tools of war' to dominate and subjugate an enemy, can go unpunished, adds to the horror of realizing that justice very rarely is administered, in such situations, or indeed in relative peacetime.I think it's fair to say that rape is a nightmare in every single way.
Accusations remain just that thought until proven. She’d be leaving herself open to some pretty heavy legal trouble if she named the person and wasn’t able to prove it.Accepting that "innocent until proven guilty" is the correct concept to apply in court, that's in court, where consequences can include the state depriving you of your liberty. That standard doesn't apply outside of court.
In other words if person X accuses person Y, people are free to believe person X and act accordingly. Which includes declining to support, associate with or employ person Y. You don't need to have the allegation proven to a criminal standard in order to make your own moral or value judgements based on the information available, even if it is rational to temper your response in light of your lack of certainty.
So in the case of the person Katherine Ryan was referring to for example, people who are aware of his reputation within the industry and the allegations against him can and should choose not to employ him. Because while that could mean unfairly limiting his career opportunuties if the accusations are unfounded, there's no moral obligation on them to give that risk greater consideration than the risk that the allegations are actually true. In fact given all we know about the relative likelihood of legitimate accusations versus false accusations, quite the opposite. Unlike a legal setting, theirs is one where they can place more weight on accusations alone, particularly as they can decline to employ someone without making any sort of public accusation against them.
Oh absolutely, she shouldn't publicly name him, especially as she has no actual evidence to present.Accusations remain just that thought until proven. She’d be leaving herself open to some pretty heavy legal trouble if she named the person and wasn’t able to prove it.
There’s definitely a common denominator hereThis research is based on zero evidence. Because you can't know in he said vs she said who is telling the truth. Tupac Shakur got done on for obvious BS sexual assault charges that ruined his life. I've had 2 women threaten me with BS rape accusations a couple of time without going through with it but they threatened to do so.1 of them, I didn't even have sex with after she was asking for sex all night long, after she said 'no' I stopped straight away. But because I rubbed my dick against her clit during foreplay that we both mutually agreed to and she said 'no' she thought she was raped when I stopped. Before this she kept asking if I had photos of my ex wife in my bedroom because she wanted the 'right atmosphere'. I've had another woman make up lies about me about domestic violence. And I've not had many girlfriends. Many women lie to get economic dominance over men or to punish them. Those studies aren't having sympathy to missacused men.
If you haven't been with such women, then it's good for you. But you could be devastated if you ever encounter one.
Yeah, as a misogynistic trope as it is, don't stick your dick in crazy is advice this poster could take on board.There’s definitely a common denominator here
Get back in here, you coward. We’re just about to call Tupac a diddler.
Awwwwwhh, but they're the best ones !Yeah, as a misogynistic trope as it is, don't stick your dick in crazy is advice this poster could take on board.
Yeah I knowAwwwwwhh, but they're the best ones !
What if you just rub it on their clit?Yeah, as a misogynistic trope as it is, don't stick your dick in crazy is advice this poster could take on board.
What if you just rub it on their clit?
Have to find it first mate.What if you just rub it on their clit?
He already served 40 years in the can.What happened to the Morgan Freeman allegations from a couple of years ago. They seemed to just disappear
Did his time at ShawshankWhat happened to the Morgan Freeman allegations from a couple of years ago. They seemed to just disappear
He should spend the remainder of his life behind bars if he was aware that she was a minor.https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/dec/30/aerosmith-steven-tyler-lawsuit-sexual-battery-assault
Aerosmith’s Steven Tyler sued for 1970s sexual battery and assault of minor
Suit alleges ‘various acts of criminal sexual conduct’ were committed against teenager by singer over three-year period
Well. He asked custody to her parents and i think he got itHe should spend the remainder of his life behind bars if he was aware that she was a minor.
Surely you can't get custody of a teenager and then start banging her? That would be even worse, if you're her legal guardian and not just a random creep.Well. He asked custody to her parents and i think he got it
Bravo for the parents also if so
You mean like woody allen?Surely you can't get custody of a teenager and then start banging her? That would be even worse, if you're her legal guardian and not just a random creep.
They'll have to arrest Bowie (or his corpse), Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, every member of Motley Crue and probably 80% of rock stars from the 70s and 80s then because it sounds like they were almost all to a man at this kind of thing. Probably just as widespread now actually. Statutory rape seems to be one of those crimes famous people are particularly good at getting away with.He should spend the remainder of his life behind bars if he was aware that she was a minor.
And he just admitted it in his 2011 book as if he wasn't a grooming creep who sex trafficked a minor?https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/dec/30/aerosmith-steven-tyler-lawsuit-sexual-battery-assault
Aerosmith’s Steven Tyler sued for 1970s sexual battery and assault of minor
Suit alleges ‘various acts of criminal sexual conduct’ were committed against teenager by singer over three-year period
Another lever pulled.Too scared to post this in the football forum
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/football/64346267.amp
Dani Alves: Former Barcelona defender detained on suspicion of sexual assault
Obviously way worse with the English lot too as most of their accusations have been 14 year olds. Its like they all decided two years younger than legal was their cut off.They'll have to arrest Bowie (or his corpse), Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, every member of Motley Crue and probably 80% of rock stars from the 70s and 80s then because it sounds like they were almost all to a man at this kind of thing. Probably just as widespread now actually. Statutory rape seems to be one of those crimes famous people are particularly good at getting away with.
He's done for, the evidence is so against him his team in México fired him and Xavi Hernandez has giving some statements assuming he's guilty.Too scared to post this in the football forum
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/football/64346267.amp
Dani Alves: Former Barcelona defender detained on suspicion of sexual assault
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A spokeswoman for the Safdies says: “The Elara team were made aware of Sebastian McClard’s behavior in July 2022. They took immediate action and terminated him.”
Both “Good Time” and “Uncut Gems” were released by A24, the New York indie upstart behind Oscar best picture winners “Everything Everywhere All at Once” and “Moonlight.” The allegations raise serious questions about why a 17-year-old girl who had no agent at the time was filming nude scenes on the set of a movie. There’s no ironclad rule barring underage nudity, but there is a general Screen Actors Guild requirement that employment conditions not be “detrimental to the health, morals and safety of the minor.”
“It sounds like they circumvented the entire safety structure of our industry by hiring somebody on Instagram who was not a union member, who doesn’t know her rights,” says Anne Henry, co-founder of BizParentz, an advocacy group for child actors. “Normally, minors have to have their contracts court affirmed, and there’s lots of other hoops in order to cast a minor. This is so not normal. Everything is wrong about this situation.”
https://variety.com/2023/film/news/...wski-estranged-husband-uncut-gems-1235567864/