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Flashbacks to Chiellini's direct red after Ronaldo threw himself to the ground:
Wasn't Drogba wrongly red carded at 1-0 at Camp Nou in that one? So Karma evened out over that tie.You could change your forum status to "Wants to talk about Stamford Bridge"
Because, you could be talking about this, right? 6:41
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/i-may-have-fouled-victor-admits-carvalho-7179662.html
You may say scandal, others might say karma
On the contrary, the reason Atletico see fewer yellows is likely more to do with playing deeper and having less possession. Barcelona and Real play higher up the park and are more exposed to the counter attack - that's when they'll often take a yellow to avoid getting turned over on the transition in the open space behind them. I agree that they are disciplined enough to avoid needless bookings.You put Spanish teams in the same bracket regarding referee help, yet Real Madrid and Atletico have 11 and 9 Yellow Cards less than Barcelona despite having played an extra game, they're 30th and 32th in Fouls per game despite being top 10 in tackles per game, and are also on par with Barcelona in fouled per game, despite having 10% less possession, thus spending 10% less of the game in the better position to get fouled.
You want a scapegoat? Atletico are your go-to choice, despite being one of the visually harsher teams in the competition they get booked and foul less than almost any other team. Atletico see a yellow every 6 fouls, Barcelona 4,5 and Real Madrid 7,6. Atletico commit a foul after 4 tackles, Barcelona 2,3 and Real Madrid 3. Simeone has teached his team how to live on the edge of the rules and if you see them play and then look at their discipline stats it shows crystal-clear.
What's the problem with this one? That Dante didn't get a red card?If you are a Bayern fan then you probably don't remember this incident in CL final that Bayern won.
This uncalled penalty tops everything from yesterday and it gave Bayern the CL title.
So now a fair red card (double yellow) evens out Karma of a bad call that leaves you out of the competition? I'm almost done with this kind of arguingWasn't Drogba wrongly red carded at 1-0 at Camp Nou in that one? So Karma evened out over that tie.
Let's hope a PSG fan user can contribute as well. Btw is Chiellini using shoulder/neck protection? I dunno if Suárez is hungry tonightWell, now we lack Nani's red card, a Merengue answering with another implicating video against that poster's favourite team and then we may round it all with Ramos offside goal in last year final. We still have 2 hours to fill until the next game
He was on a yellow already, which is why he didn't get another one.What's the problem with this one? That Dante didn't get a red card?
Kudos to you for not sweeping it under the mat like most Barca fans would do it!If you compare basketball and football, in basketball there's usually a correlation between offensive and defensive stats when we talk about dribblers, foulers, possession time... that doesn't happen in football because human factor is way bigger in the calls our refs do, the ref sets the tone of the game based on his opinion and teams play around that, Atletico are masters of that art right now and teams like Barcelona evolved the "constant moan" technique years ago because they found they could tune the ref's opinion towards less contact football doing that. In a perfect world without awful refeering both of these teams would load themselves with cards and eventually the sport would end up winning in pace and rhythm, but right now there are whole football schools that will be prepping kids to play around the refs like that until it stops working
This.Kudos to you for not sweeping it under the mat like most Barca fans would do it!
That's why i like the Premier league so much, the moaning and playacting does work in only the rarest of cases/refs. My buddies (who are mostly Bayern fans) and me all have the strong opinion that European football should just take that over from the PL, and the football would get a lot better, and more fair. Until then teams like Barca will continue with this tactic...
I'm okay with that argument (except you're mistaken in one thing, Real get even less yellows than Atletico)On the contrary, the reason Atletico see fewer yellows is likely more to do with playing deeper and having less possession. Barcelona and Real play higher up the park and are more exposed to the counter attack - that's when they'll often take a yellow to avoid getting turned over on the transition in the open space behind them. I agree that they are disciplined enough to avoid needless bookings.
What's interesting about Terry scoring a header?You could change your forum status to "Wants to talk about Stamford Bridge"
Because, you could be talking about this, right? 6:41
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/i-may-have-fouled-victor-admits-carvalho-7179662.html
You may say scandal, others might say karma
Even with the better Premier League refeering standars, teams can get screwed a lot of times.Kudos to you for not sweeping it under the mat like most Barca fans would do it!
That's why i like the Premier league so much, the moaning and playacting does work in only the rarest of cases/refs. My buddies (who are mostly Bayern fans) and me all have the strong opinion that European football should just take that over from the PL, and the football would get a lot better, and more fair. Until then teams like Barca will continue with this tactic...
Why isn't Valdes trying to stop that ball, where was Carvalho? What did he say about what he did? What did he saw the linesman did?What's interesting about Terry scoring a header?
Yep. You just have read the Michael Oliver thread. Or if you feel nostalgic the Howard Webb, Mike Dean or Mark Clattenberg threads. Perhaps most people won't remember but one of the most inept refs i´ve seen (portuguese/spanish level) was english. Uriah Rennie was his name. God what an awful ref.Even with the better Premier League refeering standars, teams can get screwed a lot of times.
The ref didn't have a very good performance in that final in general. Dante was definitely lucky there. Lewandowski and Ribery should have been sent off too.He was on a yellow already, which is why he didn't get another one.
I'd obviously love it but don't think so. There's so much hyped expectation for a miracle to happen that IMHO it adds to the pressure the players feel.Reus is back. That guy's incredible in the CL. Think you'll turn it around actually
He was absolutely woeful and I think the only thing that kept him in a job was some sort of racial quota.Yep. You just have read the Michael Oliver thread. Or if you feel nostalgic the Howard Webb, Mike Dean or Mark Clattenberg threads. Perhaps most people won't remember but one of the most inept refs i´ve seen (portuguese/spanish level) was english. Uriah Rennie was his name. God what an awful ref.
No Fabinho is huge, there's no balance in Monaco's midfield (see cup final vs PSG) and they've had 3 terrible second half performances in CL in a row so as long as you're within touching distance by half time I expect you to go through.I'd obviously love it but don't think so. There's so much hyped expectation for a miracle to happen that IMHO it adds to the pressure the players feel.
Anyway, leaving aside the attack and the game last Wednesday, I really enjoyed this CL campaign. Apart from Real Madrid no boring opponents (sorry, RM fans, nothing personal, it's just that we've played each other too often to get excited).
Christ, those Barca uniforms look like something you would see on a prison team.You could change your forum status to "Wants to talk about Stamford Bridge"
Because, you could be talking about this, right? 6:41
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/i-may-have-fouled-victor-admits-carvalho-7179662.html
You may say scandal, others might say karma
Pulisic being on the bench had to be expected as he is consistently stronger as sub than as starter. I can´t really pinpoint it but something about his game gives his opposing players tremendous trouble for a time until they adapt to it. Pulisic as of right now is an ideal player for half an hour, probably our strongest high impact sub.Playing Durm instead of Pulisic without Dembele even on the pitch seems a bit too defensive to me.
Hope not, will be good to see RM and Juve in the final.It's going to be another Real v Atletico final isn't it? Zzzzz
Come on Juve win this thing.