Which record?Paying a record fee for a guy who played 7 games last season and has zero international caps. It's madness.
It won't be a league record or even a club record.
Which record?Paying a record fee for a guy who played 7 games last season and has zero international caps. It's madness.
Honestly, it’s not. If it wasn’t for trying to keep him from walking around with the “world record fee” tag this deal would have been done two weeks ago.It’s a gross overpay whichever way we look at it but we’re getting an exciting talent.
Rumours are £80m+ so record fee for a CB.Which record?
It won't be a league record or even a club record.
For sure Mount and James got the chances because of the transfer ban. There’s no disputing that but they’ve a still had prove themselves and Tuchel still had to show belief in them when he came in with a brief to finish top 4 with the team sitting in 9th. You can’t gloss the part where they were still given an opportunity again and again.I might be wrong but I thought that Mount & James if my memory serves me right benefited from Lampard using them when you guys had the transfer ban. That helped establish them firmly in the first team, and obviously they've continue to flourish under Tuchel.
You just wonder if you didn't have that transfer ban then and could have spent another summer signing players, if they would have been afforded the same opportunity?
For instance, this summer the same scenario you would have played Chalobah & Colwill. Instead, you go out and sign Koulibaly & Fofana and push them both out on loan its looking like. I also think Broja, CHO and Gallagher will move on, if not this summer probably next.
Rumours are £80m+ so record fee for a CB.
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They seem to have done everything they can to keep it under Maguires record but yeah, the odd few million either way doesn't really matter, it's a feckload.
Yeah we’ve seen it before. It does feel very similar to be honest.Rumours are £80m+ so record fee for a CB.
It's semantics anyway, any fee even close to that is crazy. He's just come off a bad injury, barely played last season.
We should be getting the best CB in the world for such a fee, sure he's got potential, which may or may not be realised.
We should have waited for a DOF and planned deals out. We're making all the same mistakes Utd owners have. Ironic writing on here.
He will be in France squad hereafter.Yeah we’ve seen it before. It does feel very similar to be honest.
Astonishing fee for a player who isn’t even a full international and has played one full season in the PL. Very similar to Cucerella.
It IS true. Damage done over decades is very hard to simply fix over night. The mechanisms of how you plundered a league seems a moot point. And even at the “adjusted” rate after the Royal Decree, Barca and Madrid still took home 30% of the entire leagues TV revenue alone.That statement is not true. More than 20 years ago there was a vote of the professional teams in Spain, there they had to decide whether to sell the rights jointly or individually. And the vote was won by the option to be sold individually. So it is not true that Barcelona and Real Madrid have caused that.
And in the penultimate sale of television rights, it was decided to raise the income of all the teams except Barcelona and Real Madrid so that the difference would be smaller.
The whole entire market is fecked. Let’s not pretend spending 80 on Antony, 60 on Isak or anything up to 100 for Nunez are good deals. It’s just where transfers are right now. I’m waiting for a market crash at some point. It will come.Yeah we’ve seen it before. It does feel very similar to be honest.
Astonishing fee for a player who isn’t even a full international and has played one full season in the PL. Very similar to Cucerella.
I don't think Fofanas height is accurate on certain websites. I highly doubt he's 6 ft 3. He's not known to be aerial dominant. Saliba is 6 ft 4 and here's a pic of him next to Fofana.Honestly, it’s not. If it wasn’t for trying to keep him from walking around with the “world record fee” tag this deal would have been done two weeks ago.
If you want a top young defensive talent next year …. Or any top, top rated talent… you will be in the hundred million plus range. Inflation is about to grip tighter, especially in Europe.
We are trying to spend 60m on Gordon… around 80m for a 6’3” fast, athletic defender with world class upside, proven Prem performance, and the ball carrying and passing of a quality midfielder? It could prove to be cheap.
I just hope Chalobah stays, loans only, or has a reasonable buyback. I see Colwill, Chalobah, Fofana as a long term elite line. And if Silva keeps having muscle issues we will need him now, not later.
And I don’t know if he’d want the job, but I’d pay Silvas wages for the next few seasons just to have hi. Coaching o the practice pitch and I the locker rooms. If there’s anyone that can keep this from affecting Fofanas head, it’s Silva.
Fofana’s knees are bent and he is leaning forward whereas Saliba is completely upright in that pic.
We’ll one of them is standing straight up with his back arched and the other is bending to hug a shorter player … at and upward camera angle, hardly forensic proof. I’ve seen him listed at 6’3”, 6’2 3/4”, etc. He is proper CB height and would not be a liability in a two man pairing the way Kounde would have is the more important point.
tbf, Fofana had a yellow very early in that game. It should and does change how aggressive you can play.Fofona for 80m is extremally high risk. We played Leicester City two weeks ago and Martinelli did him about 3 or 4 times. Every time Martinelli got the ball with Fofona in front of him the crowd were on their feet expecting Martinelli to mug him off.
Chelsea are spending 80m on a 40m player, and even at 40m its high risk. Madness
That's not going to happen it's not like there's a correction compared to capital markets. The transfer dealings have got worse incrementally overtime. The only hope for balance is for the domestic league's bodies / UEFA to put sanctions in place. It's not a good look that economically in a period of inflation, cost of living crisis etc that these ridiculous fee's are being established. You also cannot blame the buying clubs it's the greed of selling clubs that's the issue. Everton rejecting the 40 million bid for Gordon, Ajax rejecting 80 million. There needs to be strict legislative influences.The whole entire market is fecked. Let’s not pretend spending 80 on Antony, 60 on Isak or anything up to 100 for Nunez are good deals. It’s just where transfers are right now. I’m waiting for a market crash at some point. It will come.
tbf, Fofana had a yellow very early in that game. It should and does change how aggressive you can play.
That's the only thing that matters. Transfer fee will be high, especially when you are buying from PL clubs. Clubs should be smart to go for players with small release clause or in last year of contract.It’s a gross overpay whichever way we look at it but we’re getting an exciting talent.
Is that him behind Tielemans in the pic? If so, he looks shorter then Johnny Evans who's often listed at 6'2.We’ll one of them is standing straight up with his back arched and the other is bending to hug a shorter player … at and upward camera angle, hardly forensic proof. I’ve seen him listed at 6’3”, 6’2 3/4”, etc. He is proper CB height and would not be a liability in a two man pairing the way Kounde would have is the more important point.
Saliba, and /or Fofana could have grown btw. Saliba has been listed at 6’4” since he was 17 or 18? Athletes are sensitive to the “still growing” label if they are already playing at top level.
Van Dijk gets done regularly and he’s supposed to be in his prime. One game doesn’t write off a player.Fofona for 80m is extremally high risk. We played Leicester City two weeks ago and Martinelli did him about 3 or 4 times. Every time Martinelli got the ball with Fofona in front of him the crowd were on their feet expecting Martinelli to mug him off.
Chelsea are spending 80m on a 40m player, and even at 40m its high risk. Madness
Does he ? He's still unbeaten at Anfield, and got passed by 8 times in 3 full seasons.Van Dijk gets done regularly and he’s supposed to be in his prime. One game doesn’t write off a player.
Yes, in every game this season he’s been done or committed fouls that have led to penalties etc. my point is that just because a player has a bad game or two it doesn’t mean they’re suddenly bad or a risk or not worth it.Does he ? He's still unbeaten at Anfield, and got passed by 8 times in 3 full seasons.
That wouldn't be the same at all although the general point is sensibleYou can hardly knock a twenty year old for not having a ton of caps at CB for France of all teams.
That would be like saying someone’s trash for not getting a ton of starts at RW for Argentina….
He got passed by much more than 8 times, that's a silly stat that lacks any context. Somehow whoscored managed to successfully hype the stat.Does he ? He's still unbeaten at Anfield, and got passed by 8 times in 3 full seasons.
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Looking at his appearance record and this is one of the craziest transfers of all time considering the price. You can draw comparison to Konate at Liverpool who is similarly delicate but he was half the price, his value a reflection of that terrible appearance record.The question is not about his pricetag. The question is about his abilites to play in our main 11. I really doubt. He played only 57 league games in 6 years: 37 games in EPL and 20 games in France. Come on guys, his maximum was 28 games in 2020/2021. He never even played a full season. He is not PL proven. You can find 10 right-footed healthy young central defenders in top-5 leagues for less than 30m pounds. I don't understand why everyone so hyped about Fofana. He wasn't even second choice for Chelsea this summer. This looks like a panic buy to me, as Kepa's transfer. Absolutely average defender and also unreliable.
Going by most reports it will be £70M basic fee plus the add-ons.75 mil inc all addons. I wonder what we're actually paying upfront and what the addons are.
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Bargain of the century.
If you're taking a 21yo player and look at his appearance record in professional football going back 6 years since the player was 15 then of course it's going to look like he's not played much per year.The question is not about his pricetag. The question is about his abilites to play in our main 11. I really doubt. He played only 57 league games in 6 years: 37 games in EPL and 20 games in France. Come on guys, his maximum was 28 games in 2020/2021. He never even played a full season. He is not PL proven. You can find 10 right-footed healthy young central defenders in top-5 leagues for less than 30m pounds. I don't understand why everyone so hyped about Fofana. He wasn't even second choice for Chelsea this summer. This looks like a panic buy to me, as Kepa's transfer. Absolutely average defender and also unreliable.
Fans in using euro to score online points shocker€89m for Fofana!!
Fans in using euro to score online points shocker
Anyway all the fishing for bites in here won’t stop me viewing you as one of our own, a comrade in blue
Silva is 38 next monthI don't know too much about the two or three kids they bought, but Fofana is a seriously good buy. In fact, this may end up being the best deal of the summer after Haaland. The guy has loads of potential.
If you take out Silva, Chelsea may also have the youngest first-team squad in the PL. That will set them up nicely after Tuchel is sacked sometime next year.
Yeah but if you take out the oldies, we've got a very young side. Duh.Silva is 38 next month
Koulibaly 31
Kante 31
Jorginho 30
Mendy 30
They have the oldest first XI
You need to fact check this shit
Yeah but if you take out the oldies, we've got a very young side. Duh.