This is the sort of perspective that this thread has been crying out for.
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I am pro-Qatar and I would back Ratcliffe if he guaranteed both of those things, which currently he is doing neither.
I don't like him personally for many reasons, Brexit etc.
I don't really like that he has basically said nothing during the whole process, granted I know that NDA's have been signed but look at his statement, it was pretty much a copy and paste from the Chelsea one.
He comes across as a bit dishonest and evasive about certain things.
This is my current mood:
L.U.H.G.R.Q.
L.U.H.G.R.Q.
Exactly.Just removing (some of) the glazers is apparently going to transform the club
I can only speak for myself but a big part of resentment is the fact they’ve leeched off the club for years, how can anyone think them still leeching off 18% of the club is palatable?
Whilst there are other options on the table that involve sole ownership I can’t back this nonsense. We’ve no say in all honesty but just wow.
Surely this can’t be true
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Or jassim was always privately funded.You also have to think that we know very little actual detail about what is really going on.
We've seen so much guesswork recently.
I would be very surprised if the Qataris dont trump Ratcliffe. Like I just said I would love to know just how much the difference in share price valuation is. My guess (based on that Bloomberg info) would be not too much.
These guys are paying Mbappe 600 million euros over 3 seasons. I'm sure they will find 500 million - 1 billion from somewhere if they want this deal
If not then fair enough, they didn't want it. If they do they will buy us.
Let Us Hug Glazers, Ratcliffe and Qataris?
Not sure about that. Think it's fairly obvious that its the contrary.
I'm pretty sure Sir Jim has said he was open to 100% takeover at one point.
The numbers maybe just haven't made sense and clearly haven't for Qatar either hence their position of not overpaying.
As for the debt.....you have absolutely no idea what the plan is for that. None of us do. It's guess work. He could be planning on clearing it immediately or within a year or two for all we know.
He doesn't need 100% to take over the club. That's just ego, or to take the club private so the Qataris can do whatever they want without scrutiny. You've been drinking their PR for too long.
Yet the Al Thani family are really a bunch of stand up guys
You know I have no hate in my heart.
Did I state otherwise?Yet the Al Thani family are really a bunch of stand up guys
But like you said earlier, if they can afford to pay Mbappe a zillion dollars then surely they can beat a clever chancer like ratcliffe?
The point is so much of the little info out there makes any sense
Pitching my tourism marketing idea to the Qataris:Yet the Al Thani family are really a bunch of stand up guys
"It's Always Sunni, With the House of Al Thani"
Insulting another member
@webbthepostie
You know very well what I meant by that. I want the Qatar takeover as it would be more beneficial for the club than Ratcliffe. I'm not condoning their regime you utter moron.
You know very well what I meant by that. I want the Qatar takeover as it would be more beneficial for the club than Ratcliffe. I'm not condoning their regime you utter moron.
You'd certainly think so. Time will tell.
Charming
You know very well what I meant by that. I want the Qatar takeover as it would be more beneficial for the club than Ratcliffe. I'm not condoning their regime you utter moron.
It's not like we are one now but if Ratcliffe buys the club and isn't clearing the debt we are truly finished as a top club and are probably going to fall even further behind.
They're not evasive or dishonest about what they'll do with the club unlike Ratcliffe (assume that was the point he was making there).Yet the Al Thani family are really a bunch of stand up guys
I don't see how you can argue that Ratcliffe will be better for United than Qatar which is mostly what I care about.
They are Sunni, aren't they? If not I have really messed up.
It's not rationalization to say that, it's exactly what happened.
That's not praising his takeover as a good thing to say that, it's just an unfortunate fact.
They won't be able to leach off the club anymore though?Exactly.
I can only speak for myself but a big part of resentment is the fact they’ve leeched off the club for years, how can anyone think them still leeching off 18% of the club is palatable?
Whilst there are other options on the table that involve sole ownership I can’t back this nonsense. We’ve no say in all honesty but just wow.
Surely this can’t be true
I'm absolutely against the Qatar bid but they should do the same really. If the choice is paying ludicrous sums to fully get rid of them despite them having no control OR investing the same sum into the club then it's just dumb to give the Glazers money.
You asked for it by trying to insinuate that I am in favor of human rights abuses.
What they have offered is better than what Ratcliffe has offered. End of story. That's how I judge it.
You don't know what will be more beneficial. You have an opinion on what will be. You don't know for certain.
You know very well what I meant by that. I want the Qatar takeover as it would be more beneficial for the club than Ratcliffe. I'm not condoning their regime you utter moron.
Afterall Todd Boehly was being lauded a top new owner 10 months ago. 600m later and he's turned out to be a clown.
We've been linked with Neymar today too with the Qatar bid. Could be BS of course but that's got disaster written all over it. He's not right for us and the PL so I hope that story is wrong if Qatar win.
Thats fair. I'm not disputing that. I may turn out to be wrong. Whatever.
At this moment in time, I like what I've heard from Qatar more than Ratcliffe.
Or they've just said what the fans want to hear to get people on their side. Who knows until they do it (or don't do it).
You attacked Ratcliffe's politics and character while ignoring the elephant in the room, your post said nothing about finance. Calling people morons is a bit rude.
Fair enough.
Chelsea fans were calling Boehly the new Abramovich not long ago. Lots now want him out already and Roman back.
Being filthy rich doesn't mean they will make good owners ultimately. Only time will tell if they win the bid.
Pretty dishonest about where the money is coming from though. Hardly inspires confidence. Hahaha
I apologise.
Accepted
Apologising hardly seems in the spirit of the thread.
Beautiful moment.
You may not be, but the people potentially owning your club definitely are, and definitely do commit them. If you’re fine with that because we might win more, then you’ll get called out for it.
It's an emotive topic. Things can get a bit heated. It's in good spirits. We all want the same thing really don't we.
Manchester United to reach its potential.
I'll maintain my own view but let @Berbaclass have a 20% interest on my opinions going forward.
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