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Shame we’re aren’t more like Brighton
The state of this postIt’s always had the edge due to finance because it’s a state/state-backed/state-associated/state-facilitated/state-enabled bid.
So…no shit Laurie.
The state of this postIt’s always had the edge due to finance because it’s a state/state-backed/state-associated/state-facilitated/state-enabled bid.
So…no shit Laurie.
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I’d like to see the club reinstated to its former glory, but wish to restate my opposition to state ownership.The state of this post
Jim’s stateless and Jassim’s the state.What's the current state of affairs then?
Yeah there is no doubt Qatar has some laws which I don't agree with,however like I and many others have said the state ownership horse bolted with City back in 2008I agree. I've opposed and criticized the ownership to varying degrees for 25+ years. And short of one of these bidders donating half the club to the fans to make it 50+1 fan ownership, I will continue to oppose the owners.
I hope you pro-Qatari ownership folks can still vocally criticize Qatar's abuses (and the pro-SJR folks criticize Ineos' environmental abuses, should they win). Both are problematic. You can support one's ownership and still call out the horrible things they do. Turn their attempts at sportswashing/greenwashing against them by using their ownership of United to highlight their abuses.
The United fanbase has built an incredible protest culture. I would love to see that used to counter the sportswashing/greenwashing attempts.
Understated commentJim’s stateless and Jassim’s the state.
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So you don't buy into the Qatari line that everyone will be given chance to prove themselvesIt must be bloody strange for these guys showing round prospective owners, knowing that they are facilitating their own dismissal. They are literally the turkey voting for Christmas!
Jim’s stateless and Jassim’s the state.
Getting flashbacks to every time we got a new manager who gave everyone a chance to prove themselvesSo you don't buy into the Qatari line that everyone will be given chance to prove themselves
So who is on it then,want to see how close it is to mine just out of interestI have a £300M shopping list for the summer. Please, someone buy the fecking club!
My point is his dad might be helping him buy the club. Hence the post stating that his dad might be helping him buy the club.So their names are different to ours, what's your point?
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In Qatar, M&A doesn't stand for mergers and acquisitions.So you don't buy into the Qatari line that everyone will be given chance to prove themselves
Yes, because INEOS doesn't have GBP 5 billion or more lying around, they need debt of some sort to even make the required payment to the Glazers in exchange for their equity stake, if they were the winning bid.Can you someone tell me if Big Jim actually needs finance. Just seems mental someone like him can be turned down by Barclays. Suppose there's still the Halifax.
On the other hand Sjr is statelessHe can’t even afford s colour photo ffs
Over $6.1billion5 billion bid including debt ain't that good considering the Glazers want 6 billion not including the debt
This means that the bid to buy 69.50% of the Glaziers shares would be £660m first to clear the debt then probably £4.5bn on top so the bid would be shown as £5.16bn or $6.3bn, I have a feeling that Sheikh Jasim could be £5.5bn + £660m debt = £6.16bn so a billion moreSo, does this mean his bids actually 4.5bn but clears the debt or 5bn to the Glazers and we keep the debt, because I don't see the former being accepted
There are people who actually want rid of the glazers in favour of yet another leveraged buy out?
Just confirms a lot of fans were following the crowd and don't actually know why people want the glazers out.
Sir Jim is a terrible option.
Just had a quick check on the share price and it's still over $25.. https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/Man UtdShare price has gone back up over 25 today. Not too far off from its high a month ago.
Don’t you think, for better or worse, the promising appointment of Ten Hag would grant them a stay of execution under any owner?To each their own, but I don't know why any fan would want this. Unless it's just "better the enemy you know"
Richard Arnold, John Murtough, Darren Fletcher and co are probably hoping the Glazer's stay
This is shrewd from the Glazers. Think about it:The Glazers “are not concerned about unrest if they stay as they have had it for years.” Surely they know it will be a lot worse, I mean unpleasant Everton worse, if they stay?
Well I certainly can't see the Glazers turning down an extra billionThis means that the bid to buy 69.50% of the Glaziers shares would be £660m first to clear the debt then probably £4.5bn on top so the bid would be shown as £5.16bn or $6.3bn, I have a feeling that Sheikh Jasim could be £5.5bn + £660m debt = £6.16bn so a billion more