Let's make it 25 years. It will give 'journalists' some room to manoeuvre thus avoiding ending up with another big egg on their face
Club Sale | It’s done!
- Thread starter JB08
- Start date
-
In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
- Status
This is a classic case of one bidder waiting to find out what the other bids.
This public nature of this process has it's drawbacks.
This public nature of this process has it's drawbacks.
I’m not really following the updates but I’m more interested in if the formal bids have addressed the running of the club?
DoF, youth facilities, sorting the club out from the top down, not just throwing billionsto get the club and then just trying to sign 4 Haalands and hoping for the best.
DoF, youth facilities, sorting the club out from the top down, not just throwing billionsto get the club and then just trying to sign 4 Haalands and hoping for the best.
Buying a footballer and buying one of the biggest football clubs in the world is not the same, so how are you even comparing the two?
Exactly
Not yet. Jassim has said he will revamp the infrastructure of the club but that could all be PR for all we know. SJR a bit more coy. Doubt we will see any changes in key personnel right away apart from a new CEO which is given.
Perhaps the rival bidders have done the books and realised just how fecked the Glazers are financially, and want to make them sweat.
All the cash has basically gone, the team needs new players and both the stadium and training ground need investment.
It'd be like buying a house with a knackered front door, damp in the walls and a leaky roof. And the sellers would be absolutely skint.
All the cash has basically gone, the team needs new players and both the stadium and training ground need investment.
It'd be like buying a house with a knackered front door, damp in the walls and a leaky roof. And the sellers would be absolutely skint.
Okay thanks. They better not think the club can just run autonomously, guaranteed disaster if that’s the case. Needs a significant overhaul.
Maybe Fax machine is same for both.
Fits in with what I have heard about our search for a new sponsor, our commercial side is absolutely clueless post Woodward. We are again getting dragged through the press for our incompetence although at least this time its off the field.
That's true. But I think for some posters as long as it's not football that's affected, they're fine with it.... but nope, it doesn't seem to be the case.
Yep United don't need a sugar Daddy.
Is anyone else getting strong Fellaini vibes from this situation....or just me?
Never straightforward with us, is it?
Gaitan/Snjeider vibes...
It’s just like how we handle transfers, it’s a long drawn out process where the deal looks like it may collapse at some stage but eventually get it across the line by overpaying.
Are you sure about that number?
Pretty widely reported this season that United's annual wage bill is somewhere in the £200m+ range.
Stadium redevelopment might be an issue though.
So they are appealing to the Glazers to make a decision that could cost them money based on morality?
Good luck with that.
United never really dominated Europe, so I don't know what point your making.
I think with football we can actually make a difference, the fans are heard and we've shown that by the multiple protests.
When it comes to financial institutions we don't get much of a say, that is out of our hands to a certain degree, but to say people are fine with it is churlish.
I certainly am not, I'm also not fine with China owning a huge proportion of the infrastructure in and around the UK.
The simple fact is the Government have been in bed with Qatar for years and years due to money and energy.
I vote the way I do a lot due to these types of relationships and I'd imagine so do a lot of people.
Barclays haven't been the title sponsor of the PL in over a decade.
And to go against fan wishes on top of that.
It’s poorly worded to say the least
At the start of this I took the view that sportwashing was ineffective for the reasons above. The last few weeks have proven that to be a ridiculous view. A read through this thread shows just how effective it is.
Is this even true?
And even if it was, which the official data says it isn't, then ask yourself, would you be happy with a Russian oligarch because Russia invested billions in the UK?
And you understand why countries like this invest in other nations surely? Why the likes of China, Russia the Gulf States and more but well known foreign companies?
It's not for our benefit, not for the UKs benefit but to give the impression of legitimacy
No Ineos and Qatar are both bidding for the Glazers 69% of the club. That's all the Glazers can sell through this sale process, they don't own the other 31%. Ineos/Qatar would have to buy those shares separately once they are club owners.
So despite all these Tweets for some reason continually repeating that Qatar want 100% of the club they are actually only bidding for 69%.
It’s a game of bluff now between the potential new owners and the Glazers.
The problem is that because there’s so many interested parties, this gives the Glazers the upper hand.
We need the Glazers to cave in, but it’s difficult to work out how to force their hand?
The problem is that because there’s so many interested parties, this gives the Glazers the upper hand.
We need the Glazers to cave in, but it’s difficult to work out how to force their hand?
The longer this plays out the longer i feel this takeover has hit the buffers. There will be carnage if it all falls through.
It is. And it's probably higher than that.
A lot of it is done through shell companies/ accounts in the British Virgin Islands, Jersey etc. We should all know why this is done.
They are also now the UK's second largest source of gas, and have heavily invested in a storage facility in Wales I think, that will be able to hold 20% of the UK's daily gas needs.
They ain't going nowhere.
There’s not really any way of knowing, I’m not sure the Glazers will be considering that information as part of the bid. They’re likely just caring about structure of finance.
Because the Glazers have managed to look unprofessional and disorganised on both counts?
As it is for any club though mate even the biggest of them. For all this talk of United needing £2+ billion to renovate Old Trafford. Real are renovating the Bernabeu for £700-800m and that's a pretty extensive redevelopment.
It's proving the fact, Raine won't care... They just want paying
And you believe a deal of this magnitude, circa £5bn, hasn't got more moving parts than a player transfer? This is a world record deal for a sports franchise. Unforeseen things will happen.
And, do you not find it strange, that ALL the journalists/reporters covering this takeover said the same thing? These are from sports and business sectors of the media. Do you think they were told one thing and then something else happened?
Whenever do you find people in the media all agree about the same thing? It's usually when something is near enough happening, or has happened.
Yeah, they are probably appealing to the wrong people. The only slight chance they would have of stopping this is if they appealed to the fans and managed to get a fan movement going that was against the Qatar bid that created enough noise. But that's a tough ask when no matter which potential buyer a fan prefers. 99.9% of United fans want the Glazers gone.
It would be fraud and they would get prosecuted for it, I think they'd care
Im not sure the bids would even have that level of detail or even require it. Ultimately, Glazers don’t care less what the plans are for the club or whether it burns to the ground. As long as they get the money they want.
- Status