Sir Erik ten Hag
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This thread is the classic confirmation that the fans-owned model would never work for our club.
Agreed. HAHAThis thread is the classic confirmation that the fans-owned model would never work for our club.
Also "oil money" is equally about the fact that its source is a dictatorship - which Dubai objectively is, regardless of the number of oil wells they may have.It's been mentioned so many times that Dubai's main source is not oil.
YepThis thread is the classic confirmation that the fans-owned model would never work for our club.
No not really. If you spend more than you make from winning the trophies then it wasn't a commercial benefit. If you have to compete witha club who have, in practice, unlimited resources and a football focused management, then you will lose in the long run.I don't even know what "spending for commercial benefit" means in this context. Everything is for commercial benefit. If you build the team into a team that wins trophies, that brings commercial benefit. From the owners' POV, that's why you want a successful team.
No, but we don’t need them to be. At some point “being richer than” is meaningless as whatever they’ll be able to do so would we.Are they richer than Mansour?
No, different royal family but they are closely connected. If I'm not mistaken the daughter of ruler of Abu Dhabi is together with the crown prince of Dubai.Dubai? Wouldnt that be the same family as city??
He left United for a pay cut at Juve. Money wouldn’t really sway him. Though he might regret if this goes through and heavy investment is put into the team and we start competing for the highest honours again.Pogba will be so gutted he left.
That would go against how the NBIM fund works, so that can be pretty much ruled out.Also "oil money" is equally about the fact that its source is a dictatorship - which Dubai objectively is, regardless of the number of oil wells they may have.
If the Norwegian sovereign wealth fund was to buy us, I'm sure the majority would be quite happy about that.
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Who is your gut feeling on the ownershipThe cynical me thinks the deal has already been sewn up. I am sure negotiations have already taken place for months. Just that it is now so close that they risk breaching stock exchange rules by not making clear their intentions given the impact on the share price.
I can even see a documentary series pan out: From Tezos to Bezos.Yeah we'll turn into a reality tv series.
Then nothing changes from the PL product we have today, as that's what the case is now.what happens when every premier league club is owned by an ultra rich willing to spunk endless money on players?
A club can only spend what they earn.what happens when every premier league club is owned by an ultra rich willing to spunk endless money on players?
Lots of ropey ‘sponsors’ who don’t really exist.what happens when every premier league club is owned by an ultra rich willing to spunk endless money on players?
Dubai. Since they have previously expressed interest.Who is your gut feeling on the ownership
I'm inclined to think this way, too. I mentioned yesterday that this is probably already done.The cynical me thinks the deal has already been sewn up. I am sure negotiations have already taken place for months. Just that it is now so close that they risk breaching stock exchange rules by not making clear their intentions given the impact on the share price.
what happens when every premier league club is owned by an ultra rich willing to spunk endless money on players?
If a US consortium buys us, they're going to be incredibly rich. Otherwise, there's no chance they'd be able to afford to purchase the club for the figures quoted.Just get Dubai cnuts in. Surely better than a US consortium who won’t invest in the club.
And if we don’t get them, someone else will and then eclipse us in every way.
Anyone who buys the club is shady. No two ways about it. Rather get an owner who is greedy than an owner with a record for human rights violations. Dubai probably falls in to the second list.Also "oil money" is equally about the fact that its source is a dictatorship - which Dubai objectively is, regardless of the number of oil wells they may have.
If the Norwegian sovereign wealth fund was to buy us, I'm sure the majority would be quite happy about that.
A bit like Europe in the 1920'sNo, different royal family but they are closely connected. If I'm not mistaken the daughter of ruler of Abu Dhabi is together with the crown prince of Dubai.
Our owners are richer than your owners will be the new my dad could beat up your dadAs an aside, modern football is the worst. I’ve seen so many posts in here like “are they richer than Mansour?” etc.
Disgusting stuff.
Yeah fair enough, just an example as to how it's less to do with "oil" per se and more around not wanting to be a vessel for sports washing a Gulf State.That would go against how the NBIM fund works, so that can be pretty much ruled out.
Dubai's royal family are a dictatorship with multiple human rights violations, that's literally my point.Anyone who buys the club is shady. No two ways about it. Rather get an owner who is greedy than an owner with a record for human rights violations. Dubai probably falls in to the second list.
They just weren't categorised correctly
Exactly. It’s all very depressing.Our owners are richer than your owners will be the new my dad could beat up your dad
The Premier League itself is morphing into a kind of Super League.Who are all these clubs going to buy is another question? There are only so many super players you can spend mega money on
Yeah there is probably some kind of rulingNowhere near.
However they have a good amount of money and would invest in the team, they would also be one of the richest owners in European football (Below Abu Dhabi, Qatar and Saudi). They do things properly here and would hire the right people to run the club. The only question mark as to them actually buying the club is as some people have mentioned, the Abu Dhabi ruling family and the Dubai ruling family are very close and are actually distantly related. The crown prince of Dubai for example recently married a princess of the Abu Dhabi ruling family, so whether they actually try to compete with Abu Dhabi in the same market, in the same league/country, in the same city remains to be seen.
Yeah think you are right about thatWe don't need them to be as rich. The club itself makes enough money on it's own to be fairly competitive when it's not getting robbed. The club's money together with Dubai's money will put every target within our reach.
But it's less about the money and more about the intent. Arabs love football, know football, and want the prestige that comes with winning. And will work towards that end. Likely they will seek out competent people to put in the club and hopefully end the jobs-for-the-boys policy. This is what we need a lot more than money - competitive drive and competence. Dubai is the best case scenario, in my opinion.
What is wrong in asking? Most are not versed about these peopleAs an aside, modern football is the worst. I’ve seen so many posts in here like “are they richer than Mansour?” etc.
Disgusting stuff.
Manchester, New HampshireCould new american owners move the club to USA?
Who do you think that buyer is?Calling it now, sale is close, this story has come out to push one particular party to pay up. A buyer does not want this news to be out in the open.
But those will also likely take dividends just like glazersIf a US consortium buys us, they're going to be incredibly rich. Otherwise, there's no chance they'd be able to afford to purchase the club for the figures quoted.
And if you're gonna drop several billion on an asset like that, it'd make zero sense to starve it of investment.