If it is Dubai. I can imagine a scenario where the rats sell a controlling stake but still hold onto some shares, expecting the new majority ownership to increase the clubs value in the coming years. Would this be a realistic possibility?
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Under current climate, I think we need to sign two players per year costing more than 60mil each, to compete in EPL.
I know they are Arabs and they are sheikhs but they are not stupid people. Why would they make a deal which is worse for them in longterm. They would never want anything less than what UAE sheikhs got. So, that ain't happening. Glazer's era is done if these middle Eastern people are coming.
I think we would need much more than that, the way market is going. I mean, jude for 150 and enzo for 120, osenheim for 100. These days any decent player would cost 100 ; cue Anthony
Agree. I actually forgot to put the word “minimal”.
I'll take Dubai tbh. Not sure why but I trust Arab owners to hire competent people or at least attempt to.
Even with 'good' American ownership, we've seen what can happen and all Arab-owned clubs are run well - PSG probably are the worst ones but still miles better than Chelsea for example
Even with 'good' American ownership, we've seen what can happen and all Arab-owned clubs are run well - PSG probably are the worst ones but still miles better than Chelsea for example
Come on now, owning Manchester United is like owning the crown jewels, it's unique and worth more to them as all the others. Know your worth, they'll pay.
Money doesn't mean much by itself. They want something no one else has.
Money doesn't mean much by itself. They want something no one else has.
Nothing against the actual message in your post, just pointing out that Dubai is part of UAE.
Lols. Sorry, meant Abu Dhabi
PSG are atrociously run, and City were awful for several years before Garry Cook got himself sacked for the Nedum Onouha disgrace.
PSG have attempted to hire decent people but failed due to their president being a prick. Now they seem to be doing better but they're just a plastic team nonetheless.
City would always take time, as it's hard to attract talent with their name. This won't be a problem for us.
Generally speaking, I'm more confident we'll be run better with ME ownership, especially a non-oil emirate like Dubai.
Of course, it can always go to shit.
Provided Dubai are still majority owners
Which I think is more than achievable without an owner pumping in huge amounts?
Aren't Dubai the paupers compared to the Qataris, the Abu Dhabi's and the Saudis?
As said before when it comes to the vast sums involved does it even matter?
Chelsea geezer is spending like his life depends on it and he is nowhere near the Dubai lot in wealth.
weren't they bailed out by the City owners though?
I'm not sure, be interesting to read though.
Sorry if I’m over stepping the mark as a ‘newbie’ but could we not pin this thread, as it’s probably the most important subject to be discussed in decades.
I don't think it needs it right now. The thread is consistently at or the near the top of this forum and stickied threads tend to become furniture that few look at.
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Bit hypocritical of them to talk about fan engagement
You bet he is hoping for a partial sale or no sale.
I bet it hasn't even crossed their mind. Just brownie points speaking to a fan forum. Like they give a shit about fan opinion
I don’t think any club gives a shite about fans’ opinion tbh. The idea that a privately owned club will listen to what some random fan has to say is just a fantasy. So all the talk about them being “integral” is just a typical PR nonsense.
Yep, Arnold won’t last long if the Glazers are out. He is a Glazer man and the new owners will want their own running the show.
I’m all for it, as I still have no idea whether Arnold is actually competent or not.
There will be a knock-on effect. Arnold's potential departure will affect Murtough and then ETH. Like you said, the new owners would rather have people they know, shared vision, hired and trust with their £5-6billion investment.
Whoever buys the club could want a bit of continuity so they could keep Arnold on for longer. I remember everyone thought the Glazers would get rid of Gill and put their own man in.
But the investment on their part was so low risk. Sure they didn't care if Gill was in it. No reason to change. But when you are spending your own money to the tune of £5-6billion, you won't want to take that sort of risk especially when you know the club has in a downward trajectory.
Even Ratcliffe put in his own brother immediately after he bought Nice.
They won’t get rid of ETH. He’s one of the best regarded managers in Europe, and doing well. It’s a bonus to buy the club and have someone competent as manager already.
They won't sack ETH
I think the reason why they kept Gill was because they didn't want to upset Fergie and the fans. They knew they already had the man in place to lead the club and he worked well with Gill so why ruin that. I don't doubt a new owner would want their own people in but I don't see it as an impossible scenario that they decide to keep Arnold while also bringing in their people into other roles and potentially having somebody work alongside him. It's hard to say because we really don't know who's buying the club.
Depends who “they” are, surely?They won't sack ETH
If we get bought by a sheikh for use as a distraction for his playboy nephew, the latter might bring in Wayne Lineker as DoF
How are City run?Depends who “they” are, surely?
If we get bought by a sheikh for use as a distraction for his playboy nephew, the latter might bring in Wayne Lineker as DoF
Not by a sheikh with a playboy nephew, obvs.
Edit: I wasn’t being entirely serious. Nevertheless, City being well run doesn’t guarantee we would be. PSG have been hamstrung by having a relative of the owners as President, who was happy to Divide and Rule by employing a DoF and managers who were at cross purposes.
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Have they? So is that why Carrington is in need of refurbishment, the supporters in the Stretford End get a soaking every time it rains because the roofs in such poor condition, reported rat infestations..
Finally for the record, the Glazers are Republican supporters who donated to Trumps nomination.
Don’t be silly
Also important to point out it took a number of years for City to get their house in order. They were an absolute disaster zone for quite a long time
How is the last part relevant ?
They should as fans are actually customers
The top management (Arnold/Murtough) will be on a very tight leash for sure if they are kept. They will have to present a b-plan and vision of where they think they can drive United.
And if the new owners are satisfied then they will be kept on. But that plan will be based on an ROI or some grand vision (eg multi-club scenario) depending on the type of owners. Then they will be judged on achieving those proposed objectives.
ETH isn't like Fergie -- a proven serial winner. ETH will be seen as a risk, experimental. There are a handful of other options for the new owners to pick from. Brand name, proven winners. And everyone has a price.
Why? There are plenty of examples. Ratcliffe replaced the top management at Nice. Even the Abu Dhabi folks replaced City's top management upon talking control of the club.
It happens everywhere at work, certainly in my own experience & observations..
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