I don’t give a feck what that prick has to say about anything, because he’s about a reliable a source on anything as any narcissist.
You can't be serious when it comes to OT. Been to the Allianz' arenas in Munich and Vienna and both are on another level when it comes to the facility. I'm not saying a completely new stadium is needed but OT needs a huge refurbishment and has for years.
How much interest do you think Utd will incur on a 25-year loan?
Did you happen to pull that number out of thin air?
800mill isn't even close. Renovation would be well over a billion and a full rebuild would be about 2billion according to reports.
So on an incredibly small sample size you’ve decided we need a new stadium?
I do think our stadium is extremely worn and I'm dire need of renovation or rebuild.
Mate actually visiting OT and watching games there was enough to see that. You don't even need to compare it to other stadiums. It's in a dire state.
I’m not saying it doesn’t need any work at all, but it’s not this urgent necessity that it’s being made out to be. There’s far more pressing issues.
I go every week, often a couple of times, it’s absolutely not in a dire state. You’d have an aneurysm if you went to the San Siro for instance.
We need both of those things.Or at least both need to be massively renovated. You can pretend we don’t if you’d like.
Thing is, we would be free to compete financially if we weren’t shackled by paying for the pleasure of being owned by the Glazers (debt/dividends). We do a pretty good job currently inspite of that.
Which is why they build a new one
Probably a lot lower than that, but even at that interest the increase in revenue covers it.
This is the sensible approach. We would ‘like’ a stadium and training ground refurb, but neither are absolute necessities.
It was in a much worse state 20 years ago than Old Trafford is now. That’s one of the better Italian stadiums too.
I think the modern player likes to have the best training facilities available. It could be the difference between a player joining or not.
They’re not top of the to do list, but should be worked on at the same time as improving on field stuff. Hopefully our new owners can multitask
The last point I agree with. Which doesn't change the notion that it would be nice to have an owner that is happy to invest and I don't see that with Ratcliffe. Not in the places he's been so far at least. Maybe that changes when he decides to buy us for a few billions. Which I still highly doubt.
This is true but he won’t be the only bidder, they will have at least 5 or 6 who pass the financial tests set by the raine group and then some of these bidders will fall away to 2 or 3 serious parties, we’ve heard already that there is an American, Asian and Middle East interest. There may be a joint bid with Qatar investment and Indian with someone like Beckham as the figure head.
Where/when has this been reported?
I am no accountant either, but it shouldn't impact the earnings.
Exactly. For reference, a basket ball team, the Phoenix suns, were sold in December for $4b.
Especially is the new owners decide to take a big chunk of the revenue for themselves, the bigger the group of investors, the bigger slice of the pie they will want.
So a player who actually went to the training ground and independent bodies who are paid to assess the work that needs to be done at OT can't be trusted? They're just saying that it's well behind other comparable facilities in the country for shits and giggles?
What did these independent bodies say exactly? Then I might listen to, a trademark narcissist I won’t give time of day.So a player who actually went to the training ground and independent bodies who are paid to assess the work that needs to be done at OT can't be trusted? They're just saying that it's well behind other comparable facilities in the country for shits and giggles?
I think you make a good point, and it is always important to see the whole picture when analyzing a situation.
Thanks to FFP not including infrastructure investments you could theoretically spend more on players by building a new stadium.
Yeah £800m is nowhere near enough, at least twice that given work required on stadium and training ground.
Why would he spend millions trying to get Nice to be the second best team in France? The ROI will be minuscule, the prize money and tv rights money will be fecking terrible. He isn’t stupid hence why he’s got money in the first place.
So why would he back anything more than a top 4 spot for United based on this logic
If I remember correctly he hired his brother.
Prize money and tv money (as well as general marketing opportunities) at United are in another universe to that at Nice. The ROI is much much greater from us being successful which isn’t the case with Nice.
The parasites have to go at all costs, but something about Ratcliffe does rub me the wrong way. The whole "he is a fan, so he will do a better job" angle doesn't fly with me. It's based on nothing but wishful thinking and make believe. Very naive. The man didn't care about poisoning the land and the people to make profit. He will do anything to that end. I don't trust him to run the club competently. Besides, he isn't exactly young. Even if he does run the club well, he could be dead soon. Who knows what kind of corporate scum will inherit the club then? If I have to choose between Glazer and Ratcliffe, I'll go with the latter. But oil money for me is by far the best outcome. At least they have the money to compensate for other shortcomings.
You can’t build a team for the top 4 in the premier league, there is too much risk of it not happening.
Agree. This acceptance of needing a new stadium and training ground as fact is baffling.
This kind of thinking is how you end up with a crumbling stadium and outdated training facilities. The Glazers are only embarking on this process, because they know that they cannot afford to fund the necessary infrastructure spending from the club's own cashflow. They either need to find a partner or accept a full sale.
