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its a mess if Raine are in effect surplus to a sale, when they have been instructed to make the sale (and of course be paid for it)How is it? It’s the Glazers who decide on who they sell to.
its a mess if Raine are in effect surplus to a sale, when they have been instructed to make the sale (and of course be paid for it)How is it? It’s the Glazers who decide on who they sell to.
Interesting theory but complete speculation based on a dodgy source (El Pais)Tweet
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No it isn’t, it’d work in a similar way when you sell a property and have a survey done. In this instance given the lack of investment and huge debts that need attention we’d be valued considerably less than the £6b price tag the Glazers have asked for.Sorry that's ludicrous, the value of anything is what someone us prepared to pay for it in a capitalist society
This myth was squashed weeks ago - I guess you missed the memoWhy would he go to his dad? His dad doesn’t have close to the net wealth to buy us either.
There's a fairly big possibility that he has. Don't use Forbes valuation as face value when it comes to rich individuals from the Gulf.Why would he go to his dad? His dad doesn’t have close to the net wealth to buy us either.
Sources advising the Glazers indicate that whether or not the ownership changes, the most valued sports institution in the English-speaking world is preparing to invest a minimum of 500 million in signing players this summer. United has informed the Qataris of the plan. "United passed us the list of players they wanted to sign," explains a member of the team of technicians accompanying Sheikh Jassim, "and after an hour of analysis, we raised no objections.
That doesn't quite have the same ring to it. If it makes you feel better, they also export a lot of oil.Gas me up!
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Fair enough. However I can't recall anyone owning two clubs at the size of United and PSGJust as well I haven't made any such claims then mate. I'm just replying to your claims.
You said Giants not "great clubs" whatever that means to you.
But virtually no one would consider PSG to be one of the Giants of world football. Just because they've had a decade of financial doping.
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Think he posts hereThe Swedish rumble is a budget copy of the Swiss ramble. Grain of salt.
He does. It's the Messier account. He's a good poster by all means but that post reads like pure speculation.Think he posts here
All these rumours are a bag of wank, just a journos wet dream this saga.It's a terrible sign if Raine has fallen out with Qatar. These guys are world-class professionals.
To be fair he’s a poster on here so I wouldn’t be too harsh, no harm in giving it a shot.The Swedish rumble is a budget copy of the Swiss ramble. Grain of salt.
I must have. Feel free to enlighten me.This myth was squashed weeks ago - I guess you missed the memo
Its also more than likely bullshitIt's a terrible sign if Raine has fallen out with Qatar. These guys are world-class professionals.
Just think of what the Glazers are going to do with that money...The money in football is ridiculous.
6 Billion what a joke you can house all the world’s homeless with that money. The level of inequality in modern societies is absurd.
Maybe it’s the same guys who pretended they were Ander Herrera’s lawyers.The Fake Sheikh routine? Freddy Sheppard and Sven-Göran Eriksson rolling in their graves.
i am still gobsmacked that their acquisition of the club was legal.Just think of what the Glazers are going to do with that money...
To think they make that having bought Manchester United with mostly debt never having had to pay it off in the decade plus before paying themselves.
Imagine if you or I could use a credit card to play the casino every year until we hit the jackpot and also paid ourselves handsomely off it, kicking the can down the road with regards to actually paying it off.
Special treatment and rules for the rich elite.
It could but more importantly should’ve been challenged in the high court at the time the sale was being negotiated.i am still gobsmacked that their acquisition of the club was legal.
On the outset it does make sense to wait to see if we qualify for the CL but last years winners received £75m which while of course it's a lot of money shouldn't really delay a multi billion pound deal. My own take is the feckers are playing Russian roulette and if it wasn't for wanting them out so badly I'd wish they'd pull the trigger on a loaded chamber.Interesting theory but complete speculation based on a dodgy source (El Pais)
Still it does make sense that they might be waiting until CL qualification is secure to fix a price
Not unusual for a buyer and seller to start talking directly rather than through intermediary by this point in the process either - Raine will get paid either way so they won't give a shit
Much of the rest sounds like fantasy though
“Despite reports that Ineos are inept owners and are as bad as the Glazers (or possibly worse) , I still want them. As long as the big bad sheikh don’t win.”If it's true that his relationship with the Raine group has broken down, then it's over for Jassim, thankfully. Whether that means we'll get Ineos or some minority investment I don't know. I hope Ineos.
That’s insulting to anuses.Thhe only thing definite so far is that the Glazers are a total bunch of a*seholes!
His dad is suspected to be one of the wealthiest man on earth but his net worth is hidden through shell companies and a myriad of holding companies. Now while no one knows how much he actually has, there are few clues, he is the owner of the superyacht Al Mirqab, he is a very active real estate investor and notably in London.I must have. Feel free to enlighten me.
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A distant cousin of the emir in the ruling clan and one of the Gulf state’s richest men, HBJ’s wealth is put at $1.3bn by Forbes, but people in Doha estimate it at many multiples of that.
His dads wealth is grossly under reported.Why would he go to his dad? His dad doesn’t have close to the net wealth to buy us either.
I assume there is a bonus when the sale / sale investment is completeSurely Raine group are paid by the Glazers and will get their money either way no?
Seems like a lof of reaching and leaping.
The way it usually works is that the seller will provide the investment banker with an incentivised commission structure. Eg we’ll give you this much commission if you sell it for over 6bn. That’s likely what’s happened here and why Raine are hell bent on driving the price up.I assume there is a bonus when the sale / sale investment is complete
probably they charge a basic fee at the outset for their services but the real money for them is when the deal is done.Surely Raine group are paid by the Glazers and will get their money either way no?
Seems like a lof of reaching and leaping.
I think him being named as a key player in PP should be enough to counter the Forbes estimate. Also, like previously mentioned, GCC countries are notoriously known for not doing financial disclosures, especially key members of royal families.His dad is suspected to be one of the wealthiest man on earth but his net worth is hidden through shell companies and a myriad of holding companies. Now while no one knows how much he actually has, there are few clues, he is the owner of the superyacht Al Mirqab, he is a very active real estate investor and notably in London.
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By PP you mean Panama Papers? If so it's not just Panama Papers but also Pandora Papers.I think him being named as a key player in PP should be enough to counter the Forbes estimate. Also, like previously mentioned, GCC countries are notoriously known for not doing financial disclosures, especially key members of royal families.